Best Ever Albums

Re: Rank score

Mother Nature's Son — Fri, 6 Apr 2012 13:28:23 GMT

Author: Mother Nature's Son

Posted: 04/06/2012 17:28

albummaster wrote:

yes, decimals are used in the calculation (and when determining the overall ranks) but they are not displayed on screen.

Okay, I also thought so.

Re: Rank score

albummaster — Fri, 6 Apr 2012 12:56:07 GMT

Author: albummaster

Posted: 04/06/2012 16:56

yes, decimals are used in the calculation (and when determining the overall ranks) but they are not displayed on screen.

Re: Rank score

Mother Nature's Son — Fri, 6 Apr 2012 12:11:25 GMT

Author: Mother Nature's Son

Posted: 04/06/2012 16:11

Are decimal numbers a part of the calculation in the rank score system?

Re: Rank score

Mother Nature's Son — Fri, 6 Apr 2012 12:06:42 GMT

Author: Mother Nature's Son

Posted: 04/06/2012 16:06

Think this might be helpful:

Rank points gained through main charts = 100 ∙ (1 – (r – 1) ÷ n)

Rank points gained through decade charts = 20 ∙ (1 – (r – 1) ÷ n)

r = rankposition in the chart
n = number of entries in the chart

Re: Rank score

albummaster — Fri, 14 Oct 2011 17:10:32 GMT

Author: albummaster

Posted: 10/14/2011 21:10

yes, the top-ranked album does count the same, and subsequent albums are scored according to chart-size e.g. 90, 80, 70 (in a chart of ten) or 99, 98, 97 (in a chart of 100).

Re: Rank score

RFNAPLES — Fri, 14 Oct 2011 17:03:13 GMT

Author: RFNAPLES

Posted: 10/14/2011 21:03

Xavygravy wrote:

albummaster wrote:

The 'rank score' is determined using a formula whereby (in a chart of 100 entries) #1 gets 100 points, #2 gets 99, #3 gets 98, etc (in a chart-size of 10, #1 gets 100 and #2 gets 90 etc.)

I don't see why charts with fewer entries should get less points for their #2 (and so on) albums. It seems completely illogical, as a #2 album is still a #2 album, and should receive the same number of points as if it were a chart of 100 entries.

Also, were the old charts updated points-wise?

Is the above true? I thought #1 received the same number of rank points regardless of chart size.

Re: Rank score

albummaster — Fri, 14 Oct 2011 06:05:04 GMT

Author: albummaster

Posted: 10/14/2011 10:05

Xavygravy wrote:

I'm not asking for an alternative, I'm asking for the reasoning behind it, because it doesn't seem to have any logic behind it.
The current system says that if someone makes a chart of the '10 greatest albums of all time', their #10 is only contributing as much as the #90 of someone else's 100 chart. There is clearly something wrong here, as in charts of 100, there are generally significant differences between the greatness of the bottom 10 and the greatness of the top 10. Unless there's something I'm missing, I don't see why you'd want to keep this obvious weakness in the system. :-k

You didn't ask for the reasoning, you said that you found the current system completely illogical, so I gave you the alternatives.

In brief, people wanted larger charts to count more than smaller charts (which has been discussed elsewhere). There are strengths and weaknesses in every system, and that's why the other options exist, so you can use the one that you prefer.

Re: Rank score

Xavygravy — Fri, 14 Oct 2011 05:37:21 GMT

Author: Xavygravy

Posted: 10/14/2011 09:37

albummaster wrote:

The ranking system has been discussed at length elsewhere, and it's not going to change. No system is perfect, but if you find it completely illogical, you could use the top-rated chart instead (but please bear in mind that some people try to manipulate the ratings), or alternatvely try the custom chart page where you can customise the parameters.

Charts older than ten years no longer count towards the rankings.

Re: Rank score

albummaster — Fri, 14 Oct 2011 05:23:17 GMT

Author: albummaster

Posted: 10/14/2011 09:23

The ranking system has been discussed at length elsewhere, and it's not going to change. No system is perfect, but if you find it completely illogical, you could use the top-rated chart instead (but please bear in mind that some people try to manipulate the ratings), or alternatvely try the custom chart page where you can customise the parameters.

Charts older than ten years no longer count towards the rankings.

Re: Rank score

Xavygravy — Fri, 14 Oct 2011 03:20:44 GMT

Author: Xavygravy

Posted: 10/14/2011 07:20

albummaster wrote:

The 'rank score' is determined using a formula whereby (in a chart of 100 entries) #1 gets 100 points, #2 gets 99, #3 gets 98, etc (in a chart-size of 10, #1 gets 100 and #2 gets 90 etc.)

Re: Rank score

Richie Hunt — Fri, 15 May 2009 10:37:41 GMT

Author: Richie Hunt

Posted: 05/15/2009 14:37

The change to the calc sounds good.
I question though, old charts ie that were done in 1999 etc exclude albums created post chart publish date. Is this timing of charts which favor older albums taken into consideration of the ranking? like the older the chart the less value given to an albums score - because some charts are out of date.

Re: Rank score

YellowBook — Sat, 19 Jan 2008 09:24:37 GMT

Author: YellowBook

Posted: 01/19/2008 14:24

Hi californication, yes, user charts are included in the totals for the overall chart.

Re: Rank score

californication — Sat, 19 Jan 2008 01:08:21 GMT

Author: californication

Posted: 01/19/2008 06:08

Are user charts calculated into the overall chart?

Rank score

albummaster — Fri, 9 Feb 2007 06:40:58 GMT

Author: albummaster

Posted: 02/09/2007 11:40

Previously, the 'average ranking' calculation on this site was a bit mathematically flawed as it was based on the 'mean' rank of the charts that an album appeared in, but because of the number of different chart-sizes that there are on this site, the average ranking could fluctuate wildy without really telling you anything about how good or important an album is; so, in their place, rank scores have been added.

The 'rank score' is determined using a formula whereby (in a chart of 100 entries) #1 gets 100 points, #2 gets 99, #3 gets 98, etc (in a chart-size of 10, #1 gets 100 and #2 gets 90 etc.)

The total rank score of an album indicates how well an album has ranked in the greatest album charts and the higher its rank score, in theory the more prominent the album is. The total rank score is used on this site to determine the overall prominence of an album in the greatest album charts and is listed as a reference statistic across the site.