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Re: Politics & Music

RFNAPLES — Thu, 11 Apr 2013 10:06:33 GMT

Author: RFNAPLES

Posted: 04/11/2013 14:06

Re: Politics & Music

RFNAPLES — Sat, 23 Mar 2013 08:51:22 GMT

Author: RFNAPLES

Posted: 03/23/2013 12:51

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Re: Politics & Music

Jasonconfused — Sun, 24 Feb 2013 15:20:43 GMT

Author: Jasonconfused

Posted: 02/24/2013 20:20

RFNAPLES wrote:

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She's a Fox News contributor. All credibility out the window.

Re: Politics & Music

RFNAPLES — Sun, 24 Feb 2013 15:13:02 GMT

Author: RFNAPLES

Posted: 02/24/2013 20:13

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Re: Politics & Music

Anonymous — Fri, 25 Jan 2013 13:40:58 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 01/25/2013 18:40

http://pitchfork.com/news/48967-the-kni...t-reveals/

The tracklist from the new Knife album includes a track titled "Fracking Fluid Injection." This will be interesting; I imagine they'll make it political.

Re: Politics & Music

RFNAPLES — Fri, 7 Dec 2012 10:32:35 GMT

Author: RFNAPLES

Posted: 12/07/2012 15:32

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Re: Politics & Music

Jasonconfused — Mon, 3 Dec 2012 11:05:37 GMT

Author: Jasonconfused

Posted: 12/03/2012 16:05

Wasn't sure if this should go in this thread or the Obama one but here's a video of Obama honoring Led Zeppelin!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4Q3zKfB...r_embedded

Re: Politics & Music

RFNAPLES — Mon, 3 Dec 2012 06:58:39 GMT

Author: RFNAPLES

Posted: 12/03/2012 11:58

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RFNAPLES — Fri, 30 Nov 2012 23:23:09 GMT

Author: RFNAPLES

Posted: 12/01/2012 04:23

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Re: Politics & Music

RFNAPLES — Thu, 8 Nov 2012 08:22:20 GMT

Author: RFNAPLES

Posted: 11/08/2012 13:22

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Re: Politics & Music

RFNAPLES — Sat, 3 Nov 2012 14:58:33 GMT

Author: RFNAPLES

Posted: 11/03/2012 18:58

Correct, form your own opinions of the posts.

Re: Politics & Music

Saoirse — Sat, 3 Nov 2012 14:44:00 GMT

Author: Saoirse

Posted: 11/03/2012 18:44

RFNAPLES wrote:

I rarely defend the ideas in third-party posts I have made.

That's a big question: do you agree with everything you post? In all actuality, you have to take responsibility for what you post, so it's important that you have an argument to back up what you apparently think is important and must be shared. It seems like always using third-party quotes, videos or satirical cartoons are a way of weasling out of personal responsibility for ideas or material that may be considered particulary offensive.

But it will probably keep happening... and that quote proves that giving any of those "posts" credence or recognition is not necessary in the slightest.

Re: Politics & Music

unclerico — Sat, 3 Nov 2012 14:38:52 GMT

Author: unclerico

Posted: 11/03/2012 18:38

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Re: Politics & Music

unclerico — Sat, 3 Nov 2012 14:38:33 GMT

Author: unclerico

Posted: 11/03/2012 18:38

RFNAPLES wrote:

As I have said before, what I believe shouldn't be of any importance to you. I assure you I feel the same about your beliefs.

Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense. - Lord Buddha

maybe if you didn't spam, people wouldn't care about what you think

Re: Politics & Music

RFNAPLES — Sat, 3 Nov 2012 01:00:30 GMT

Author: RFNAPLES

Posted: 11/03/2012 05:00

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Re: Politics & Music

RFNAPLES — Wed, 24 Oct 2012 17:01:43 GMT

Author: RFNAPLES

Posted: 10/24/2012 21:01

I rarely defend the ideas in third-party posts I have made. I do occasionally defend third-party factual posts when challenged but not farcical or cartoon posts. Conversely, I regularly respond to direct questions about my original posts. Admiting my Christian failure, I won’t turn the other cheek when attacked.

N.B.: The third-party posts I made in the past and make in the future don't necessarily represent my views or the views of the forum, moderators or webmaster.

Again return to the topic of Politics & Music.

Re: Politics & Music

HigherThanTheSun — Wed, 24 Oct 2012 16:26:57 GMT

Author: HigherThanTheSun

Posted: 10/24/2012 20:26

HigherThanTheSun wrote:

Your posts are pretty consistent in their message so I think it's fair for people to assume they represent your personal views. This makes it a very weak defense to claim you're just putting forward somebody else's opinion and can't be held accountable for it.

See we know you're a Republican loving hardcore right winger and all your posts come from this viewpoint, it's quite obvious they represent your personal opinions. If your posts came from a range of different political viewpoints I might be able to believe that they were just being put up for discussion or whatever, but they're not.

And it's only when someone challenges you on something controversial that the "I'm just a messenger" defence gets rolled out. You're perfectly happy to stand by your less controversial posts when someone replies to them, but as soon as it's something someone else finds offensive it's suddenly nothing to do with you. Well how the fuck does that work? Either you believe what you post or you don't you can't have it both ways.

As in, you can't put up hundreds of political posts which you agree with and which you're prepared to stand behind and defend, then as soon as it's something offensive (maybe 1 in 100 posts) suddenly the only reason you're posting is to "start a discussion or entertain", that's bollocks.

junodog4 wrote:

You seem to want to separate the message from the messenger. Sorry Naples - in democratic society you take ownership for what you say, or in the case of the internet, what you post. You can't post racist material and then act evasive and incredulous when people take you to task for it. If you don't want to be called out publicly for it, don't post it on a public forum.

Yeah, the "I'm just a messenger" defence is fucking weak and it doesn't wash with anyone.

Re: Politics & Music

RFNAPLES — Wed, 24 Oct 2012 16:11:50 GMT

Author: RFNAPLES

Posted: 10/24/2012 20:11

In polite debate you challenge the message not the messenger.

Re: Politics & Music

junodog4 — Wed, 24 Oct 2012 16:09:15 GMT

Author: junodog4

Posted: 10/24/2012 20:09

RFNAPLES wrote:

Challenge the message in public, challenge the messenger in private.

Re: Politics & Music

RFNAPLES — Wed, 24 Oct 2012 15:55:48 GMT

Author: RFNAPLES

Posted: 10/24/2012 19:55

Challenge the message in public, challenge the messenger in private.