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| Poll: Do you think Pitchfork is a force for good for music lovers and the music industry? |
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| Yes! |
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| No! |
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| Pitchfork is so mainstream now, ewww |
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| What's a Pitchfork? Is that not used for lifting hay? |
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| Total Votes : 183 |
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Necharsian
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- #601
- Posted: 08/28/2015 21:19
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| sp4cetiger wrote: | | As for boy bands, I suspect most of them are more interested in cashing in than appealing to some music snob's idea of artistry, so I'm not sure why we should be concerned about this. |
You're talking about the Beatles right?
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Satie
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- #602
- Posted: 08/28/2015 21:25
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| Necharsian wrote: | | You're talking about the Beatles right? |
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sp4cetiger
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- #603
- Posted: 08/28/2015 23:16
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| Necharsian wrote: | | You're talking about the Beatles right? |
The early Beatles were a pretty good analog to modern boy bands, but if you think "Drive My Car" and "Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds" were about puppy love and holding hands, I've got some bad news for you about Santa Claus.
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Satie
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- #604
- Posted: 08/29/2015 00:01
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making music about sex and drugs is not mutually exclusive with cashing in tho
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Applerill
Autistic Princess <3
Gender: Female
Age: 30
Location: Chicago
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- #605
- Posted: 08/29/2015 00:07
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| permafrost wrote: | | making music about sex and drugs is not mutually exclusive with cashing in tho |
Limp Bizkit are a much better boy band than the Beatles. At least Scaruffi thinks so (he gave Significant Other a 7.5)
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sp4cetiger
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- #606
- Posted: 08/29/2015 00:39
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| permafrost wrote: | | making music about sex and drugs is not mutually exclusive with cashing in tho |
Ugh, this is starting to resemble a YouTube comments thread. My original response was to Applerill's concerns that pop artists felt pressure to appeal to an older demographic. I was saying that we shouldn't be too concerned about such things because the desire to make money will usually exceed their desire to cave to peer pressure. It's only if they actually want to express more adult themes that they're likely to do so (IMO). In my response to Nech, I was saying that the Beatles did end up addressing more mature themes in their music, so their case doesn't really apply here.
Were the Beatles primarily money-driven? I doubt it, but I don't really care that much. It wouldn't change a note of what they recorded.
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Necharsian
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- #607
- Posted: 08/29/2015 01:11
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I was just kidding yes?
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- #608
- Posted: 08/29/2015 01:12
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| Applerill wrote: | | Those are decent points, but I don't think this is even just about poptimism. It's fine to think One Direction is bland, for instance, but what the article is worried about is if our reason for despising the music is because of the teenage girl demographic. And when I ask One Direction haters why that hate the band so much, many of them use that latter explanation instead of anything musical. More importantly, many critics argue that this is the same logic that led Jane Austin's novels to be critically dismissed in the nineteenth century. |
People dismiss the validity of wide swaths of music and the fans who celebrate it all the time. Rap? Oh they forgot the C lol. Electronic dance music? "maybe temporarily imprisoning DJs isn’t the worst idea in the world." Juggalos? No example necessary.
But then on the flip side, with anything that gets categorized in the higher browed sections, you'll see plenty of commentary about how the people who like it are just hipsters, that their positions are insincere and just an attempt at fashion rather than a genuine response to what they have heard. Or they'll deny that a piece of music has melody or rhythm or anything resembling music at all.
People in general are simply unable to see past the end of their nose. That's all this is.
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sp4cetiger
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- #609
- Posted: 08/29/2015 01:14
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| Necharsian wrote: | | I was just kidding yes? |
No!
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Applerill
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- #610
- Posted: 09/03/2015 10:05
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(Towards the Destroyer review today, not your counterpoints to Poptimism. I can live with those)
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