Possibility of points for Collecting - Suggestions

AAL2014

I'm sure this has been brought up before, but I've always thought that gaining points for collecting music was a good idea for this site. Even if it's just 1/2 a point per album.

Of course, I realize there could be problems with that, mainly with people trying to rack up points by saying they have albums they really don't, I'm not oblivious to that possibility, but there are users rating albums they've never heard to give it a higher or lower ranking.
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Necharsian
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I dont really think we need this to be honest. The point system is in place more for members to help strengthen the site itself (atleast in my eyes). Data moderation, adding charts, forum posts, etc. directly adds to that, but I see having a collection (as well as wishlists) as things that just make it easier for the user to categorize albums.
They dont need encouragement for people to use.

That's just my 2 cents though.

AAL2014

Necharsian wrote:

I dont really think we need this to be honest. The point system is in place more for members to help strengthen the site itself (atleast in my eyes). Data moderation, adding charts, forum posts, etc. directly adds to that, but I see having a collection (as well as wishlists) as things that just make it easier for the user to categorize albums.
They dont need encouragement for people to use.

That's just my 2 cents though.

Yeah I definitely see what you mean. I guess I would just like to see more about users collections, because there are (at least from what I have seen so far) more users who have their collection set on private than the other way around.
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Romanelli
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I agree with Necharsian. I also think that ratings and comments should not add points to a users score.

I also think that albums that have not even had complete songs leaked should not be added to the site. But, that's another can o' worms...
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albummaster
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Agree with Necharsian and Romanelli. You'll end up with people having 'collections' of 50,000 albums. The way the system works at the moment is designed to help support the functioning & well-being of the site.

Romanelli wrote:

I also think that albums that have not even had complete songs leaked should not be added to the site. But, that's another can o' worms...

Agree, definitely a problem with some future releases. These really shouldn't be added to the site as there's no way of knowing whether they'll be over the BEA minimum length & there's no way the people adding them could've even heard the album yet. I'm tending to flag these as suspect when I come across them until a proper track list can be supplied.

AAL2014

albummaster wrote:

The way the system works at the moment is designed to help support the functioning & well-being

Okay, I understand that, I never really took that into account. Thanks for the replies.

Oh and as a side note, I remember reading that the site was to undergo some big changes. Any estimate on when we will be seeing them?
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sp4cetiger

One possible compromise is to give users a small, flat number of points for making their collections public (independent of size, above some limit). This encourages users to be a bit more open and social, which is good for the site.

AAL2014

sp4cetiger wrote:

One possible compromise is to give users a small, flat number of points for making their collections public (independent of size, above some limit). This encourages users to be a bit more open and social, which is good for the site.

That's more of where I was going with this. I would love to see more about users' collections.
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albummaster wrote:

Agree, definitely a problem with some future releases. These really shouldn't be added to the site as there's no way of knowing whether they'll be over the BEA minimum length & there's no way the people adding them could've even heard the album yet. I'm tending to flag these as suspect when I come across them until a proper track list can be supplied.

What's the policy on fully leaked albums? My 2015 Chart includes the latest Battles album because it has, in fact, been leaked and I have a copy on my terabyte.

also don't tell anyone
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i am the obscure music man and when i hear anything thats sold more than 2000 copies i scream wordlessly and painfully until someone changes it.

albummaster
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The site does need to develop a clearer policy regarding future releases to appease people on both sides of the fence. Personally, I'm fine with a leaked album where there is an announced release date not too far in the future & a published track-listing so that the release can be verified as being over BEA's minimum limit for albums (more than four tracks or at least 20 minutes in length). If the release meets both those criteria it's likely to be ok to add.