Best Ever Directors [Poll][Deadline July 23rd]

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Mercury
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  • Posted: 06/14/2016 19:09
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badseed wrote:
Nice list Merc. I can relate to your explanation. PTA for example; not necessarily his biggest fan but I really liked The Master and Magnolia, and There Will Be Blood is my favorite movie of this century. Most other directors who have done my favorite of a decade (Dreyer, Chaplin, Hitchcock, Bergman, Tarkovsky, Lynch, Von Trier) have multiple films I absolutely adore and place considerably higher (Carol Reed from the 40s being the exception - don't think he even made my list due to The Third Man being the only movie of his I particularly care for <plus the rumor that Welles had a major hand in it>). You got a handful of great contemporary directors; on the other hand Christopher Nolan is probably the most recent person my list. I've always had trouble finding value in filmmakers as a whole until they've been around for a decade of two or until I've binged on their movies.


Yeah, Carol Reed was a sticky one for me. I ended up leaving him off for the reasons you mentioned. I'm just not familiar with anything else he's done. Similar thing with Laughton. I mean Night of the Hunter is really good and stylistically brilliant and all but one classic didn't cut it. But what a film it was. He's like the Madvillain of cinema.

As for more modern directors, I am glad I ended up keeping people like Koreeda (really downright brilliant director) on this and on this so high. And Adam McKay has come into his own more recently, and so that was a no-brainier for me. Judd Apatow is somewhat recent and I just love his stuff. Those directors along with Mottola and Stoller and so forth may not get many votes due to a. Not being everyone's cuppa, and b. because I see what you mean not having a big enough filmography and time frame to put their output in good perspective. I'm hoping Koreeda gets love from someone else however.

And I went in thinking I'd not end up ranking some of the real icons very high at all. Guys like Ford and Welles and Hitchcock. But as I started ranking them I started to see that despite never having "my moment" with them they undeniably have put out so many excellent, classic movies that I couldn't let them drop too far.
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Yeah, unless Night of the Hunter is in your top 5 of all time or you haven't seen films by more than 100 directors it would be silly to rank Laughton. He was the king of ham back in the 30s though and might be a borderline selection on my actors list. The fact that he directed NOTH is one of the biggest "wtf, really?" moments in the movies. Hell of a film though; makes you wonder what else he was capable of behind the camera. As for Reed, Odd Man Out is actually really good too, and I haven't seen The Fallen Idol which looks intriguing. But The Agony and the Ecstasy was a pain to get through, Oliver was even worse (and won Best Picture at the Oscars - the Academy really overdid it with musicals during the 50s and 60s).
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My list with an semi-arbitrary cutoff at 66 (2/3 of the max)

1 Andrei Tarkovsky
2 Alfred Hitchcock
3 Paul Thomas Anderson
4 Francis Ford Coppola
5 Krzysztof Kieslowski
6 Fritz Lang
7 Charlie Chaplin
8 Akira Kurosawa
9 Frederico Fellini
10 Ingmar Bergman
11 Quentin Tarantino
12 Martin Scorsese
13 Ridley Scott
14 Orson Welles
15 David Fincher
16 Werner Herzog
17 David Lean
18 Dziga Vertov
19 Steven Spielberg
20 Lars Von Trier
21 Roman Polanski
22 Billy Wilder
23 Francois Truffaut
24 Elem Klimov
25 Wong Kar Wai
26 Thomas Vinterberg
27 Alejandro Gonzalez Innaritu
28 John Cassavettes
29 The Dardenne Brothers
30 Christopher Nolan
31 Shane Carruth
32 Darren Aronofsky
33 Michael Powell
34 Tomas Alfredson
35 Abel Gance
36 David Lynch
37 Kenji Mizoguchi
38 Sidney Lumet
39 DW Griffith
40 Marcel Carne
41 Alain Resnais
42 Jean Pierre Melville
43 Michelangelo Antonioni
44 Sergio Leone
45 Robert Bresson
46 Yasujiro Ozu
47 Hou Hsiao Hsien
48 Bela Tarr
49 Michael Haneke
50 John Huston
51 Carl T Dreyer
51 Zhang Yimou
52 Masaki Kobayashi
53 Joseph Mankiexicz
54 Luciano Visconti
55 John Ford
56 The Coen Brothers
57 Wolfgang Peterson
58 Fred Zinneman
59 Bernardo Bertolucci
60 David Cronenberg
61 Ernst Lubitsch
62 John Carpenter
63 Otto Preminger
64 Jacques Rivette
65 Jonathan Demme
66 Denis Villeneuve

[Edit] Corrected Chinese names to consistently use the family name first. Quick thanks to those in the discussion who clarified the correct ordering for these names in their culture.


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Mercury
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Nice list!

But I have a question: everyone else has spelled his name "Wong Kar Wei" but on IMDb and the way I've always thought it was "Kar Wai Wong".

Confusion ensues...
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My Criterion edition of In the Mood for Love says Wong Kar-Wai. I first heard of him on TSPDT and it was also spelled that way. Seems to be common with contemporary Chinese filmmakers. Notice Zhang Yimou/Yimou Zhang.

[Edit] Dammit I woke up looking for answers. Anybody know about Chinese culture that can maybe shine a light on this name discrepancy? My google broke.
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nutso42 wrote:
Southland Tales > Donnie Darko


I can safely say this is the first time I've ever heard someone say that.
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badseed wrote:
My Criterion edition of In the Mood for Love says Wong Kar-Wai. I first heard of him on TSPDT and it was also spelled that way. Seems to be common with contemporary Chinese filmmakers. Notice Zhang Yimou/Yimou Zhang.

[Edit] Dammit I woke up looking for answers. Anybody know about Chinese culture that can maybe shine a light on this name discrepancy? My google broke.


In China the tradition is that the family name comes first, followed by the given name (so instead of, say, Buster Keaton, it would be Keaton Buster)

So some people use his name the way he would be called in China (Wong Kar-Wai) whereas others use his name the way he would be called in the Western world (Kar-Wai Wong).
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I knew there was a reasonable explanation. Thanks nutso
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Ingmar Bergman
Alfred Hitchcock
Orson Welles
Billy Wilder
Frederico Fellini
Martin Scorsese
Krystoff Kieslowski
Stanley Kubrick
John Ford
Francis Ford Coppola

Charlie Chaplin
Akira Kurosawa
Jean Luc Godard
Elia Kazan
Luis Bunuel
Bernardo Bertolucci
David Lean
Jean Renoir
Carl Theodore Dreyer
Joseph Mankiewicz

Incredibly hard to judge. Have generally prioritised those with lengthy, successful directing careers over those who released a few great films.
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Mercury
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Did a big edit to my list a couple pages back. Moved up a lot of people. Kieslowski bumped up a bit. Also Ridley Scott got shoved much lower. Etc.
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