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| #61 | Posted: 04/07/2012 19:05 | Post subject: |
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| #62 | Posted: 04/07/2012 23:05 | Post subject: |
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Hip hop, as a genre, just does not produce life-long support from its fans. |
Yeah I mean who the fuck still listens to 2pac or Wu-Tang Clan (and their various members) or The Notorious B.I.G. or Kanye West or Jay-Z or the Beastie Boys or Run D.M.C. or Kanye West or A Tribe Called Quest or Mos Def or Slick Rick or Big Daddy Kane or Eminem or N.W.A. (and their various members) or KRS-One or Boogie Down Productions or Cypress Hill or a million other well beloved hip-hop groups that people still listen to. I mean who still listens to them? Like nobody right?
Among the many, many stupid things you said in that post, this is probably the stupidest.
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| #63 | Posted: 04/07/2012 23:30 | Post subject: |
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| 40footwolf wrote: | Yeah I mean who the fuck still listens to 2pac or Wu-Tang Clan (and their various members) or The Notorious B.I.G. or Kanye West or Jay-Z or the Beastie Boys or Run D.M.C. or Kanye West or A Tribe Called Quest or Mos Def or Slick Rick or Big Daddy Kane or Eminem or N.W.A. (and their various members) or KRS-One or Boogie Down Productions or Cypress Hill or a million other well beloved hip-hop groups that people still listen to. I mean who still listens to them? Like nobody right?
Among the many, many stupid things you said in that post, this is probably the stupidest. |
Pssh. Who listens to music anymore 
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| #64 | Posted: 04/07/2012 23:50 | Post subject: |
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| Hayden wrote: | | Pssh. Who listens to music anymore |
Music should just break up already.
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| #65 | Posted: 04/08/2012 02:21 | Post subject: |
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| 40footwolf wrote: | | Among the many, many stupid things you said in that post, this is probably the stupidest. |
Have a discussion...but, don't resort to that type of comment. You're bigger than that.
And, yes, of all of those acts you mentioned, I find very few people (outside this group, of course) that actually still listen to those artists you mentioned. As a DJ, I never ever get requests for any of those. I've tried slipping in some old hip hop tracks...they never go over well. It doesn't matter what the crowd make-up is. Just my personal experience.
So, those acts you mentioned have their merits, but they just don't have the popularity or staying power of many classic rock acts. Again, the used CDs from those acts overflow in the "under a dollar" bins.
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| #66 | Posted: 04/08/2012 02:58 | Post subject: |
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| Captain_Dude wrote: | Have a discussion...but, don't resort to that type of comment. You're bigger than that.
And, yes, of all of those acts you mentioned, I find very few people (outside this group, of course) that actually still listen to those artists you mentioned. As a DJ, I never ever get requests for any of those. I've tried slipping in some old hip hop tracks...they never go over well. It doesn't matter what the crowd make-up is. Just my personal experience.
So, those acts you mentioned have their merits, but they just don't have the popularity or staying power of many classic rock acts. Again, the used CDs from those acts overflow in the "under a dollar" bins. |
Seriously, you're making yourself sound so ignorant and in a very strong way you are giving weight to the argument that YES Hip-Hop is underrated on BEA.
Also "As A DJ"? So let's judge music's merit solely based on what people at weddings want to listen to. I'm surprised your chart isn't full of: ABBA, The Grease Soundtrack, a 10 CD Boxset of 80's hits and The END by The Black Eyed Peas.
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| #67 | Posted: 04/08/2012 03:10 | Post subject: |
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I find hip hop to be a less evolved music genre than rock or folk music. There is also a bit of an inherent setback to rapping - it's monotonous. Singing has variation, therefore can sound good even without words. There is one advantage with hip hop though and it's with the extra words you can add in a shorter time, and that advantage is in storytelling. Unfortunately I haven't heard of too many great story-type songs out of hip hop. Maybe Eminem's "Kim" song. "Stan" isn't a bad example, either. I really haven't heard that much hip hop, but most of what I hear is very discouraging in getting myself to find more.
The best hip hop albums I've heard are Madvillainy and Illmatic. I don't like most Hip Hop albums but I actually enjoy these a bit. Neither I consider to be GREAT albums, though. Maybe one day there will be a great album out of hip hop. One that combines styles into some kind of indie alternative hip hop concept album with incredible creativity coming from a group that uses performed instruments and doesn't feel the need to say "nigga" every other line, or better yet, never say it. |
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| #68 | Posted: 04/08/2012 03:45 | Post subject: |
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| discounting entire music genres only shows the immaturity of a listener. The only possible argument a listener should have against hip-hop is that they personally don't enjoy the general aesthetics of hip-hop. Arguments against its longevity, status as music, status as great modern music ('50s-), or maturity, among other things, simply show the ignorance of a listener. If you're arguing against the musical "simplicity," then everyone should know that most modern music is overly dependent on a beat, rather than a rhythm, so you may as well stick to Mozart, Bach, Wagner, and Beethoven to satisfy your rhythmic and melodic needs; if you're arguing against the lyrical content, then you're simply discounting an aspect of black culture that you don't like, because all modern musical lyrical content consists of equally personal anecdotes. Fun fact: one of the first major label records to feature rap was the Clash's Sandinista! (RS 500 material), and I bet some of you detractors think the Clash are a great rock group. |
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| #69 | Posted: 04/08/2012 04:11 | Post subject: |
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| 40footwolf wrote: | Yeah I mean who the fuck still listens to 2pac or Wu-Tang Clan (and their various members) or The Notorious B.I.G. or Kanye West or Jay-Z or the Beastie Boys or Run D.M.C. or Kanye West or A Tribe Called Quest or Mos Def or Slick Rick or Big Daddy Kane or Eminem or N.W.A. (and their various members) or KRS-One or Boogie Down Productions or Cypress Hill or a million other well beloved hip-hop groups that people still listen to. I mean who still listens to them? Like nobody right?
Among the many, many stupid things you said in that post, this is probably the stupidest. |
Yeah, who listens to Kanye West twice anyway? 
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| #70 | Posted: 04/08/2012 04:19 | Post subject: |
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| Captain_Dude wrote: | Have a discussion...but, don't resort to that type of comment. You're bigger than that.
And, yes, of all of those acts you mentioned, I find very few people (outside this group, of course) that actually still listen to those artists you mentioned. As a DJ, I never ever get requests for any of those. I've tried slipping in some old hip hop tracks...they never go over well. It doesn't matter what the crowd make-up is. Just my personal experience.
So, those acts you mentioned have their merits, but they just don't have the popularity or staying power of many classic rock acts. Again, the used CDs from those acts overflow in the "under a dollar" bins. |
Very few people? Seriously? Then how is it that hip-hop albums still sell, huh? How is it that even outside this site, I still find many people who listen to hip-hop (and I'm not even talking about music sites here)?
Believe it or not, they DO have the popularity and staying power of classic rock acts. Especially in today's generation, one can still find people listening to those old hip-hop albums.
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