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#1 | Posted: 05/12/2011 05:06 | Post subject: Debt Reply with quote

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#2 | Posted: 05/12/2011 05:13 | Post subject: Reply with quote
The religious right can easily solve this problem. Just have a couple of them TV Evangelists put on a show and pretend the money goes to the jesus. Then, instead of buying themselves sports cars and mansions and fur coats, the money is used to pay the debt. A couple of Friday nights and it's done.
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#3 | Posted: 05/12/2011 06:13 | Post subject: Reply with quote
Bork wrote:
The religious right can easily solve this problem. Just have a couple of them TV Evangelists put on a show and pretend the money goes to the jesus. Then, instead of buying themselves sports cars and mansions and fur coats, the money is used to pay the debt. A couple of Friday nights and it's done.


So how exactly is the atheist left any better? They take money from one group of people and give it to another because they voted for them. They make people pay more and more and more taxes yet don't pay any themselves. Obummer talks about helping your grandmother yet his own Grandmother lives in squalor.

How about trying this Bork?

THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT NEEDS TO STOP ROBBING THE PEOPLE AND SPENDING SO MUCH MONEY AS IT GETS BIGGER AND BIGGER AND MORE AND MORE POWERFUL.

Ya know, dat dare just might work ya tink?
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#4 | Posted: 05/14/2011 23:41 | Post subject: Reply with quote
GARY wrote:
Bork wrote:
The religious right can easily solve this problem. Just have a couple of them TV Evangelists put on a show and pretend the money goes to the jesus. Then, instead of buying themselves sports cars and mansions and fur coats, the money is used to pay the debt. A couple of Friday nights and it's done.


So how exactly is the atheist left any better?


Political opinions aside, atheism is a denial of theism. Nothing more. It can't be associated with a certain side of the political spectrum. The left is hardly exclusively atheist, just as the right isn't (entirely) religious. Also, atheism itself can't be held to blame for ANYTHING, as there is not dogmatic...in other words, all atheists are different, with varying opinions on most things. People never seem to get this right.
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#5 | Posted: 05/14/2011 23:49 | Post subject: Reply with quote
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GARY wrote:
Bork wrote:
The religious right can easily solve this problem. Just have a couple of them TV Evangelists put on a show and pretend the money goes to the jesus. Then, instead of buying themselves sports cars and mansions and fur coats, the money is used to pay the debt. A couple of Friday nights and it's done.


So how exactly is the atheist left any better?


Political opinions aside, atheism is a denial of theism. Nothing more. It can't be associated with a certain side of the political spectrum. The left is hardly exclusively atheist, just as the right isn't (entirely) religious. Also, atheism itself can't be held to blame for ANYTHING, as there is not dogmatic...in other words, all atheists are different, with varying opinions on most things. People never seem to get this right.



Personally, I don't blame atheists for anything.


I just wouldn't want to be one and stand before God on judgment day.
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#6 | Posted: 05/14/2011 23:54 | Post subject: Reply with quote
GARY wrote:
bcaie16 wrote:
GARY wrote:
Bork wrote:
The religious right can easily solve this problem. Just have a couple of them TV Evangelists put on a show and pretend the money goes to the jesus. Then, instead of buying themselves sports cars and mansions and fur coats, the money is used to pay the debt. A couple of Friday nights and it's done.


So how exactly is the atheist left any better?


Political opinions aside, atheism is a denial of theism. Nothing more. It can't be associated with a certain side of the political spectrum. The left is hardly exclusively atheist, just as the right isn't (entirely) religious. Also, atheism itself can't be held to blame for ANYTHING, as there is not dogmatic...in other words, all atheists are different, with varying opinions on most things. People never seem to get this right.



Personally, I don't blame atheists for anything.


I just wouldn't want to be one and stand before God on judgment day.


Not saying you blame them. But putting them under one banner is like saying blue eyed people are left wing. And as to the judgement day thing, well with all due respect I wouldn't want to waste my whole life worshipping a "god" to end in the same place every living thing does.
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#7 | Posted: 05/14/2011 23:56 | Post subject: Reply with quote
bcaie16 wrote:
GARY wrote:
bcaie16 wrote:
GARY wrote:
Bork wrote:
The religious right can easily solve this problem. Just have a couple of them TV Evangelists put on a show and pretend the money goes to the jesus. Then, instead of buying themselves sports cars and mansions and fur coats, the money is used to pay the debt. A couple of Friday nights and it's done.


So how exactly is the atheist left any better?


Political opinions aside, atheism is a denial of theism. Nothing more. It can't be associated with a certain side of the political spectrum. The left is hardly exclusively atheist, just as the right isn't (entirely) religious. Also, atheism itself can't be held to blame for ANYTHING, as there is not dogmatic...in other words, all atheists are different, with varying opinions on most things. People never seem to get this right.



Personally, I don't blame atheists for anything.


I just wouldn't want to be one and stand before God on judgment day.


Not saying you blame them. But putting them under one banner is like saying blue eyed people are left wing. And as to the judgement day thing, well with all due respect I wouldn't want to waste my whole life worshipping a "god" to end in the same place every living thing does.



So you don't think you have a soul ?
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#8 | Posted: 05/15/2011 00:30 | Post subject: Reply with quote
GARY wrote:
bcaie16 wrote:
GARY wrote:
bcaie16 wrote:
GARY wrote:
Bork wrote:
The religious right can easily solve this problem. Just have a couple of them TV Evangelists put on a show and pretend the money goes to the jesus. Then, instead of buying themselves sports cars and mansions and fur coats, the money is used to pay the debt. A couple of Friday nights and it's done.


So how exactly is the atheist left any better?


Political opinions aside, atheism is a denial of theism. Nothing more. It can't be associated with a certain side of the political spectrum. The left is hardly exclusively atheist, just as the right isn't (entirely) religious. Also, atheism itself can't be held to blame for ANYTHING, as there is not dogmatic...in other words, all atheists are different, with varying opinions on most things. People never seem to get this right.



Personally, I don't blame atheists for anything.


I just wouldn't want to be one and stand before God on judgment day.


Not saying you blame them. But putting them under one banner is like saying blue eyed people are left wing. And as to the judgement day thing, well with all due respect I wouldn't want to waste my whole life worshipping a "god" to end in the same place every living thing does.



So you don't think you have a soul ?


Well we have different personalities and such but I do not believe in a soul, no.
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#9 | Posted: 05/17/2011 03:35 | Post subject: Reply with quote
GARY wrote:
Personally, I don't blame atheists for anything.


I just wouldn't want to be one and stand before God on judgment day.


Just out of curiousity, what happens if someone is a good person all their life (i.e. doing selfless acts of kindness, never doing particularily evil things, etc.) but they don't believe in God. When they die, they find out that infact God is real.

Does this person get into heaven? Yes or no?
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#10 | Posted: 05/17/2011 04:13 | Post subject: Reply with quote
Necharsian wrote:
GARY wrote:
Personally, I don't blame atheists for anything.


I just wouldn't want to be one and stand before God on judgment day.


Just out of curiousity, what happens if someone is a good person all their life (i.e. doing selfless acts of kindness, never doing particularily evil things, etc.) but they don't believe in God. When they die, they find out that infact God is real.

Does this person get into heaven? Yes or no?


according to the bible, no. but I guess you were asking GARY so we'll see what he says.
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