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#31 | Posted: 12/15/2008 20:23 | Post subject: Reply with quote
Beefheart did more if you only are focusing one section of music (Experimental/Avant Garde). But when comparing Beefheart's effect on all genres of music to Dylan's effect on all genres of music, Dylan wins. Beefheart influenced Avant Garde and Experimental where as Dylan influenced many more genres. That said, both of them are geniuses and to pick on over the other is a very tough choice.
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#32 | Posted: 12/15/2008 20:59 | Post subject: Reply with quote
Both of them will be remembered as the geniuses of 20th century.
But i think Beefheart was more talented and his complex music will stand the test of time much better.
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#33 | Posted: 12/15/2008 22:53 | Post subject: Reply with quote
If you're going to go with who is better? God I have no idea. Dylan is certainly more well-known, but Beefheart has complexity. He is very distinct in his style.
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#34 | Posted: 12/16/2008 03:06 | Post subject: Reply with quote
I think the reason why I lean towards Beefheart is because he is a trailblazer lyrically and musically. As a poet, I'm not sure he is quite as influential as Dylan, though as a writer he is certainly one of the greatest. As a musician, I think Beefheart greatly surpasses Dylan, primarily because Beefheart composed all his own music, whereas Dylan employed a (highly talented) backing band. Bob Dylan's songs are very simple and the brilliant moments can usually be attributed to the organ or lead guitar player (and sometimes Dylan's harmonica ie Pledging my Time).
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#35 | Posted: 12/20/2011 12:44 | Post subject: Reply with quote
Trout Mask Replica is a masterpiece, IMO. And so is Highway 61 Revisited, incidentally (for all those people talking about who is better than who....).
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#36 | Posted: 12/20/2011 13:34 | Post subject: Reply with quote
Never liked TMR, and I love Highway 61 so Dylan for me.
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#37 | Posted: 12/20/2011 13:41 | Post subject: Reply with quote
2 things, The thread is 3 years old, and It is about TMR, not a comparison to Dylan Mr. Green

Not that I ever stay on topic



The album is... Well it is interesting and... different Shocked

I never found the music it's self particularly difficult or off putting

But the vocals are just disgusting, and this really hinders an otherwise good album

One of the only albums where this has been a problem for me
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#38 | Posted: 12/20/2011 13:51 | Post subject: Reply with quote
But hey, let's not forget: this is not a topic about whether Dylan or Beefheart is better (though I think Dylan is), but just about TMR in general.
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#39 | Posted: 12/20/2011 13:51 | Post subject: Reply with quote
For me it's just... well the whole thing puts me off. Beefheart is good when he's doing more conventional stuff. I guess I just don't like avant garde music that much.
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#40 | Posted: 12/20/2011 13:54 | Post subject: Reply with quote
Polythene Pam wrote:
But the vocals are just disgusting, and this really hinders an otherwise good album

One of the only albums where this has been a problem for me


Obviously. You like De-Loused.
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