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Re: RS's 500 revised: Kanye West the big winner !

Facetious — Mon, 30 Apr 2012 04:18:39 GMT

Author: Facetious

Posted: 04/30/2012 08:18

revolver94 wrote:

I feel like I'm talking to myself, but did anyone else notice how far "Let It Be" dropped? I figure it was ranked too high before, but wow, it dropped so much. It would have made more sense if "A Hard Day's Night", "Please Please Me" or "Meet The Beatles" dropped... none of those albums are very good.

Yeah, I did notice that. I do think the newer rank is closer to what I myself would have done, just as Kid A's rank is better than before.

Oh, and replace A Hard Day's Night with Help! on your list and you're spot on. It amazes me that Please Please Me got into the top 100 in the first place, much less a spot as high as THIRTY-NINE. And through to the two revisions (the 2005 one and this one), it stayed there. I mean, Let It Be got lower, but they didn't drop Please Please Me.

Re: RS's 500 revised: Kanye West the big winner !

revolver94 — Sun, 29 Apr 2012 15:16:39 GMT

Author: revolver94

Posted: 04/29/2012 19:16

I feel like I'm talking to myself, but did anyone else notice how far "Let It Be" dropped? I figure it was ranked too high before, but wow, it dropped so much. It would have made more sense if "A Hard Day's Night", "Please Please Me" or "Meet The Beatles" dropped... none of those albums are very good.

Re: RS's 500 revised: Kanye West the big winner !

revolver94 — Sun, 29 Apr 2012 13:39:18 GMT

Author: revolver94

Posted: 04/29/2012 17:39

Also, I love how like 5+ of the new albums are just lumped at the bottom of the list :\

Re: RS's 500 revised: Kanye West the big winner !

revolver94 — Sun, 29 Apr 2012 13:38:10 GMT

Author: revolver94

Posted: 04/29/2012 17:38

Polythene Pam wrote:

Hopefully it won't be to much of a hassle for naples to update his chart.

HAHAHAHAHAHA
i realize i'm guilty of that somewhat, too, but damn that made me laugh

Re: RS's 500 revised: Kanye West the big winner !

Facetious — Sun, 29 Apr 2012 12:42:07 GMT

Author: Facetious

Posted: 04/29/2012 16:42

fellow wrote:

Seems a little unethical to "update" it like that. I figure they should have just conducted a new poll if they wanted a new one instead of altering the list that people's, the voters, names are attached to.

But can Rolling Stone be expected to think of that? Oh no. 🙄

Re: RS's 500 revised: Kanye West the big winner !

Anonymous — Sun, 29 Apr 2012 12:38:19 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 04/29/2012 16:38

fellow wrote:

Very true.

Also not including The Flaming Lips is unethical.

Re: RS's 500 revised: Kanye West the big winner !

fellow — Sun, 29 Apr 2012 12:35:18 GMT

Author: fellow

Posted: 04/29/2012 16:35

Seems a little unethical to "update" it like that. I figure they should have just conducted a new poll if they wanted a new one instead of altering the list that people's, the voters, names are attached to.

Re: RS's 500 revised: Kanye West the big winner !

Facetious — Sun, 29 Apr 2012 11:31:53 GMT

Author: Facetious

Posted: 04/29/2012 15:31

CellarDoor wrote:

They persist in ranking 500 albums higher than Unknown Pleasures.

This list sucks.

Same as Beefheart, one would think that if they cared enough to include Closer, then they might as well have included UP too.

Re: RS's 500 revised: Kanye West the big winner !

CellarDoor — Sun, 29 Apr 2012 09:31:51 GMT

Author: CellarDoor

Posted: 04/29/2012 13:31

They persist in ranking 500 albums higher than Unknown Pleasures.

This list sucks.

Re: RS's 500 revised: Kanye West the big winner !

Mr. Shankly — Sun, 29 Apr 2012 09:19:28 GMT

Author: Mr. Shankly

Posted: 04/29/2012 13:19

19loveless91 wrote:

=D> �'�

Also, what does it say about Rolling Stone, that they put Kid A so much higher than the first time, especially relative to some other albums from the same era? I guess they had to see some "best of 2000s" charts first, before properly ranking it?

edit: ok where can we see the actual list though? So far the only source seems to be the link that cartoken posted.

Actually, RS had Kid A at the top of their best of the 2000's list, so it's not like they were influenced by BEA or Pitchfork or anything. 🤣

This is an interesting point about time being a factor:

Quote:

"Things get clearer as the years pass. If you held this poll in 10 years, say, Arcade Fire could be a lot higher and the same could be said of Kanye West. Reputation and time definitely help an album, especially with pollers like ours."

Re: RS's 500 revised: Kanye West the big winner !

Bach — Sun, 29 Apr 2012 06:28:30 GMT

Author: Bach

Posted: 04/29/2012 10:28

I don't care for this list. Too many American albums.

Re: RS's 500 revised: Kanye West the big winner !

Xavygravy — Sun, 29 Apr 2012 04:00:11 GMT

Author: Xavygravy

Posted: 04/29/2012 08:00

BlueNote wrote:

I don't know if that is it. Vampire Weekend fans don't read print publication and probably buy music rarely. Plus, most of the people at RS are old. I think they were aiming for hip, but missed.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but they compile the list by asking music executives, producers, artists, etc. to make their own list/votes. They try and even out the decades they were from.

For the update, I'm pretty sure they only asked current artists and people in the music industry, which is why it's largely skewed towards modern releases, with some crap choices (famous performer does not equal good taste in music).

Re: RS's 500 revised: Kanye West the big winner !

Facetious — Sun, 29 Apr 2012 03:24:10 GMT

Author: Facetious

Posted: 04/29/2012 07:24

BlueNote wrote:

How can Safe as Milk miss the list, but Vampire Weekend is on it? That ain't right.

I don't mind Vampire Weekend. It's The Black Album (alright album, but doesn't deserve Top 500) and Tha Carter III (this shouldn't be on ANY list) making the list that annoys me 😠

Safe as Milk not being on the list while TMR enjoys the #60 spot is just one of many strange things about this list. Along with PLEASE PLEASE ME being at #39. And the Oasis and Coldplay selections are just stupid.

Re: RS's 500 revised: Kanye West the big winner !

BlueNote — Sun, 29 Apr 2012 00:33:15 GMT

Author: BlueNote

Posted: 04/29/2012 04:33

Xavygravy wrote:

There are more current fans of Vampire Weekend than Captain Beefheart, so the updated list will sell more copies.

I don't know if that is it. Vampire Weekend fans don't read print publication and probably buy music rarely. Plus, most of the people at RS are old. I think they were aiming for hip, but missed.

Re: RS's 500 revised: Kanye West the big winner !

Xavygravy — Sun, 29 Apr 2012 00:29:03 GMT

Author: Xavygravy

Posted: 04/29/2012 04:29

BlueNote wrote:

How can Safe as Milk miss the list, but Vampire Weekend is on it? That ain't right.

There are more current fans of Vampire Weekend than Captain Beefheart, so the updated list will sell more copies.

Re: RS's 500 revised: Kanye West the big winner !

BlueNote — Sun, 29 Apr 2012 00:12:46 GMT

Author: BlueNote

Posted: 04/29/2012 04:12

How can Safe as Milk miss the list, but Vampire Weekend is on it? That ain't right.

Re: RS's 500 revised: Kanye West the big winner !

Facetious — Sat, 28 Apr 2012 23:11:07 GMT

Author: Facetious

Posted: 04/29/2012 03:11

What, Please Please Me is still at #39? Oh no...... 🧱 🧱 🧱 🧱 🧱 🧱 🧱 🧱 🧱 🧱 🧱 🧱 🧱 🧱 🧱 🧱 🧱

At least Music is out now.

(Will post my opinion on the new list soon, when I study the list completely.)

Re: RS's 500 revised: Kanye West the big winner !

Xavygravy — Sat, 28 Apr 2012 21:18:15 GMT

Author: Xavygravy

Posted: 04/29/2012 01:18

Lame. 🤐

Re: RS's 500 revised: Kanye West the big winner !

Hayden — Sat, 28 Apr 2012 20:27:47 GMT

Author: Hayden

Posted: 04/29/2012 00:27

junodog4 wrote:

CCR: Cosmo's Factory 🙁

😲 I just noticed that. I guess I ignored it cause of the Nick Drake exclusions. That's really un-Rolling Stone of them to do 😐

Bleh 🤡 WHY.

Re: RS's 500 revised: Kanye West the big winner !

junodog4 — Sat, 28 Apr 2012 20:23:23 GMT

Author: junodog4

Posted: 04/29/2012 00:23

Polythene Pam wrote:

Hopefully it won't be to much of a hassle for naples to update his chart.

🤣 �'�

Too many greatest hits packages on both lists - compilations shouldn't be considered except for unique circumstances...

THE DELETED:

Beach Boys: Sunflower
Beatles: With the Beatles
Boogie Down Productions: Criminal Minded 😕
David Bowie: ChangesOneBowie
James Brown: 20 All Time Greatest Hits
Buena Vista Social Club: Buena Vista Social Club
Byrds: Greatest Hits
CCR: Green River
CCR: Cosmo's Factory 🙁
Def Leppard: Pyromania 😜
Nick Drake: Five Leaves Left
Nick Drake: Bryter Layter
Eminem: The Eminem Show 😕
Merle Haggard: Branded Man
PJ Harvey: To Bring You My Love
Jane's Addiction: Ritual de lo Habitual
Elton John: Elton John
Robert Johnson: King of the Delta Blues Singers 😠
Robert Johnson: King of the Delta Blues Singers, Vol. 2 🙁
Madonna: Music 😜
Mamas and the Papas: Greatest Hits
Massive Attack: Mezzanine
Alanis Morissette: Jagged Little Pill
No Doubt: Tragic Kingdom
No Doubt: Rock Steady
Elvis Presley: The Sun Sessions
Public Enemy: Yo! Bum Rush the Show 😜
Rage Against the Machine: The Battle of Los Angeles 🙁
Otis Redding: Live in Europe
Otis Redding: Dreams to Remember
Linda Ronstadt: Heart Like a Wheel
Roxy Music: Country Life
Roxy Music: Avalon
Paul Simon: There Goes Rhymin' Simon
Simon and Garfunkel: Greatest Hits
Smashing Pumpkins: Mellon Collie 🙁
Bruce Springsteen: Greetings from Asbury Park, N. J. 😕
Hank Williams: The Complete Hank Williams

THE NEWLY ELEVATED:

Arcade Fire: Funeral 😁
Arctic Monkeys: Whatever People Say I Am 😄
Beach Boys: Smile
Manu Chao: Proxima Estacion Esperanza
Leonard Cohen: Songs of Love and Hate 😁
CCR: Chronicle Vol. 1
Bob Dylan: Modern Times 😄
Green Day: American Idiot
Merle Haggard: Down Every Road
PJ Harvey: Stories from the City, Stories from the Sea
Jay-Z: The Black Album
Robert Johnson: The Complete Recordings
B. B. King: Live in Cook County Jail 😄
LCD Soundsystem: Sound of Silver
Lil Wayne: Tha Carter III 🤡
Magnetic Fields: 69 Love Songs
MGMT: Oracular Spectacular
M. I. A.: Kala 🤡
My Morning Jacket: Z
OutKast: Aquemini
Elvis Presley: Sunrise
Radiohead: Amnesiac 😄
Radiohead: In Rainbows 😄
Raekwon: Only Built 4 Cuban Linx 😄
Bonnie Raitt: Give It Up
Boz Scaggs: Boz Scaggs
Paul Simon: Paul Simon
Sleater-Kinney: Dig Me Out
Bruce Springsteen: The Rising 😄
Stone Roses: The Stone Roses
Vampire Weekend: Vampire Weekend
Various Artists: The Indestructible Beat of Soweto
Kanye West: The College Dropout 😄
Kanye West: Late Registration
Kanye West: My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy 😁
White Stripes: White Blood Cells 😄
Wilco: Yankee Hotel Foxtrot 😄
Amy Winehouse: Back to Black 🤡