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Re: What is it with Sgt Peppers?

Facetious — Fri, 25 May 2012 12:46:54 GMT

Author: Facetious

Posted: 05/25/2012 16:46

swedenman wrote:

Oh, yeah? Well that last comma was unnecessary. So there.

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Re: What is it with Sgt Peppers?

Anonymous — Thu, 24 May 2012 13:47:14 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 05/24/2012 17:47

Eggman/Walrus/Taxman wrote:

I also said after it that all the flaws feel like enhancements, which is why every argument that dwells on The Beatles' flaws, doesn't work for me.

Oh, yeah? Well that last comma was unnecessary. So there.

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Re: What is it with Sgt Peppers?

Facetious — Thu, 24 May 2012 04:41:26 GMT

Author: Facetious

Posted: 05/24/2012 08:41

itsit wrote:

Considering the other half of the album is instrumentals by George Martin that leaves only 4 original Beatles songs, not found anywhere else.

Also, nowhere have I found anything to do with The White Album having anything to do with John Wesley Harding. Stop bullshitting.

3 of which are among the best of The Beatles.

Yeah, I also think hairymarx1 is going too far with his JWH comparison.

Re: What is it with Sgt Peppers?

Facetious — Thu, 24 May 2012 04:39:55 GMT

Author: Facetious

Posted: 05/24/2012 08:39

hairymarx1 wrote:

Then open up your ears and get a sense of perspective on rock history. JWH shifted the mood of rock music to something more simple and traditional, and the Beatles exploited this change by popularizing it. Unlike JWH, the White album lacks cohesion sounding like a collection made by 4 individuals.

I STRONGLY disagree with you. On the surface, The Beatles may be more simple, but it is exactly the opposite of traditional. JWH was traditional and simple, with some creative touches.

And who cares about cohesion if something that lacks cohesion is more enjoyable?

Re: What is it with Sgt Peppers?

Facetious — Thu, 24 May 2012 04:31:03 GMT

Author: Facetious

Posted: 05/24/2012 08:31

swedenman wrote:

Lolwat.

I also said after it that all the flaws feel like enhancements, which is why every argument that dwells on The Beatles' flaws, doesn't work for me.

Re: What is it with Sgt Peppers?

Anonymous — Wed, 23 May 2012 16:02:27 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 05/23/2012 20:02

Eggman/Walrus/Taxman wrote:

In fact, I have yet to see a good argument against The White Album.

Lolwat.

Re: What is it with Sgt Peppers?

hairymarx1 — Wed, 23 May 2012 15:59:41 GMT

Author: hairymarx1

Posted: 05/23/2012 19:59

itsit wrote:

Re: What is it with Sgt Peppers?

alelsupreme — Wed, 23 May 2012 13:14:39 GMT

Author: alelsupreme

Posted: 05/23/2012 17:14

Considering the other half of the album is instrumentals by George Martin that leaves only 4 original Beatles songs, not found anywhere else.

Also, nowhere have I found anything to do with The White Album having anything to do with John Wesley Harding. Stop bullshitting.

Re: What is it with Sgt Peppers?

Facetious — Wed, 23 May 2012 12:40:45 GMT

Author: Facetious

Posted: 05/23/2012 16:40

hairymarx1 wrote:

the style of the White Album was cynically copied from Dylan's John Wesley Harding.

Woah, dude, I hope you don't believe that nonsense anymore.

Maybe the basic idea of doing a different kind of album after a revolutionary, popular-as-hell work was copied from Dylan's album (which I like very much, BTW), but the way they approached the style was COMPLETELY different. I don't want to write a long essay on it, but The White Album's achievement was also arguably greater than Dylan's. JWH is awesome, but The White Album is a very rare kind of album. By your standards, it would be the peak of Beatles' creativity, which is why I'm surprised people like you rate relatively mediocre albums like Abbey Road higher ("relatively" is the key word here, I happen to like Abbey Road very much). In fact, I have yet to see a good argument against The White Album. That's perhaps because the elements which would normally lower down the quality of many other albums, actually work here. It's a flawed work where the flaws feel like enhancements to the experience. It's filled with riddles and nonsensical fragments, and contradictions (it's feel of being relaxed AND filled with tension, for example). It's the very distortion of an album. It's self-destructing but never seems depressed/depressing. It revels in its quirkiness, and makes the whole experience uncompromising yet fun.

Sorry, but I have yet to see that anywhere else, except for Twin Infinitives, Trout Mask Replica, Metal Machine Music, 1/2 Gentlement/Not Beasts, and Parable of Arable Land.

Re: What is it with Sgt Peppers?

Facetious — Wed, 23 May 2012 12:27:21 GMT

Author: Facetious

Posted: 05/23/2012 16:27

itsit wrote:

It's such an lazy album, you can find most of the songs on better albums.

Yeah, right, 2 songs are considered "most of the songs" in an album which also happens to have quite a lot of other material.

This is sorta like rating a compilation, I don't base it on whether the songs have appeared on better albums, but whether the songs are good.

So it think it defeats the purpose of rating YS a bit if you lower down your rating by saying it's a lazy album.

Re: What is it with Sgt Peppers?

Facetious — Wed, 23 May 2012 12:24:47 GMT

Author: Facetious

Posted: 05/23/2012 16:24

purple wrote:

Hi-Fi top 5: Beatles songs

1. Helter Skelter
2. Twist and Shout
3. Norwegian Wood
4. For No One
5. Tomorrow Never Knows

nothing from sgt pepper, something from the early years

That's a pretty good top 5.

And 6th, I would say, should be Revolution 9. 😁

Re: What is it with Sgt Peppers?

alelsupreme — Wed, 23 May 2012 12:24:37 GMT

Author: alelsupreme

Posted: 05/23/2012 16:24

It's such an lazy album, you can find most of the songs on better albums.

Re: What is it with Sgt Peppers?

Facetious — Wed, 23 May 2012 12:22:27 GMT

Author: Facetious

Posted: 05/23/2012 16:22

itsit wrote:

Man this threads active.
I think we can all agree Yellow Submarine belongs at the bottom.

I seriously think it's pretty ironic that Sgt. Pepper's considered their best album, and YS their worst, while IMO, they both are actually comparable to each other in quality.

Re: What is it with Sgt Peppers?

Facetious — Wed, 23 May 2012 12:18:41 GMT

Author: Facetious

Posted: 05/23/2012 16:18

My opinion on the PPM vs. YS thing:

Good songs on Yellow Submarine are:

1. It's All Too Much
2. Only a Northern Song
3. All You Need is Love
4. Hey Bulldog
5. Yellow Submarine (sorta.....)

Good songs on Please Please Me:

1. Twist and Shout

That's it.

One can see YS wins by a mile.

Re: What is it with Sgt Peppers?

jhuik — Wed, 21 Mar 2012 11:48:37 GMT

Author: jhuik

Posted: 03/21/2012 15:48

Inspired by this site I have listened to Sgt Peppers a number of times lately. I do think it is still very good and holds up really well. Around about the opening of Lovely Rita it still hits me how good this is. Then Good Morning still completes the album, before the Sgt Peppers closeout and that wonderful afterthought Day in the Life. I don't think anyone else has ever come near to nor should even attempt the astonishing variation on this record.

And personally apropos of some other comments here, I do not 'get' Pet Sounds. Just started listening to it, though.

Re: What is it with Sgt Peppers?

Facetious — Tue, 20 Mar 2012 08:12:58 GMT

Author: Facetious

Posted: 03/20/2012 12:12

purple wrote:

K, I can agree that the Beatles weren't that innovative, but innovation doesn't necessarily mean greatness. If we were rating albums based on innovation, most every chart would have Trout Mask Replica on it; most people base ratings on listenability, or how much fun they have listening to an album. I don't think I have to argue (at least with most) that an album like Revolver is more fun to listen to than Trout Mask Replica; sure it may be predictable, or be comprised of "pop ditties," but again: pop is pop for a reason, it's sounds most people love for some cognitive/aesthetic reason. That the Beatles recognized this means they will e remembered long after Beefheart because he's too radical for most ears

I'm not even a Beatles fan, and Sgt. Pepper wouldn't show up on a top 500 albums list if I made it, but I (and hopefully everyone) has to respect that a lot of people love that shit, so it must have some cognitive/aesthetic click and therefore has to bear some respect. From another field, I only like baroque and post-impressionistic movements in art, but I respect people who love the Renaissance and modern shit. Let other people love it, you don't have to conform to the norm

You can argue for innovation, but TMR may be more fun to listen to than Revolver. 😜

Re: What is it with Sgt Peppers?

Anonymous — Mon, 19 Mar 2012 18:23:44 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 03/19/2012 22:23

Sgt Peppers sucks

Re: What is it with Sgt Peppers?

1234567890 — Sun, 24 Jul 2011 15:04:44 GMT

Author: 1234567890

Posted: 07/24/2011 19:04

joannajewsom wrote:

JohnnyRocketFingers wrote:

Joanna do u like sgt peppers or no? and Sgt Peppers > Pet Sounds

...Overall, the subject matter is trivial, even laughable at times. Lines like "I used to be cruel to my woman/ I beat her and kept her apart from the things that she loved" just don't ring true. I'm just not buying any of these guys being cruel to anyone, let alone beating a woman...

Listen to Rubber Soul again. In one song he's singing about cheating on his wife. On another he sings "I'd rather see you dead than to be with another man".

Re: What is it with Sgt Peppers?

Anonymous — Sun, 24 Jul 2011 12:40:33 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 07/24/2011 16:40

GARY wrote:

Bork wrote:

Polythene Pam wrote:

or maybe i was refering to abbey road. Because sgt peppers is boring.

You got me on that one. Should have seen the trap.

Now you have to stay alert at all times expecting my revenge.

Don't worry

I will save you Pam 😁

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Re: What is it with Sgt Peppers?

Anonymous — Sun, 24 Jul 2011 12:37:50 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 07/24/2011 16:37

Bork wrote:

Polythene Pam wrote:

or maybe i was refering to abbey road. Because sgt peppers is boring.

You got me on that one. Should have seen the trap.

Now you have to stay alert at all times expecting my revenge.

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