Best Ever Albums

Re: Album of the day (#566): Ready To Die

Anonymous — Tue, 12 Jun 2012 02:37:41 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 06/12/2012 06:37

Eggman/Walrus/Taxman wrote:

I prefer Biggie, to tell the truth. Pac made two AWESOME albums, but Ready to Die beats them both.

And I'm Pakistani :|

TBH the racial thing is just something I've noticed amongst my friends. It probably isn't true to any significant extent outside of the people I know. But the vast majority of my white friends love Biggie (and get defensive about him) whilst constantly putting down Pac, and vice versa when it comes to my Asian friends.

Hayden wrote:

Kanye > Ghostface > Biggie.

Nas would probably be up there if he was more consistent...

On rapping alone Kanye doesn't come into the equation. His production skills, versatility, originality and ability to make a great album make him one of the greatest artists hip-hop has ever seen. As a rapper though, he doesn't even make Top 50.

Nas, to my mind, is the greatest rapper of all time. Not my favourite, but the best. Ghostface is my favourite rapper ever, and probably makes Top 10 in terms of rapping. As an artist again he is better than Nas.

As rappers:
Nas > Big > Ghost >>>>>>>>> Kanye

As artists:
Ghost > Kanye > Nas > Big

It's difficult because everything boils down to personal opinion, but I think you'd be hard-pressed to find any real hip-hop heads who thinks that Kanye is anything more than an average rapper. Average flow/cadence, average lyrics. He's got a distinctive voice, but that's about all.

Re: Album of the day (#566): Ready To Die

Captain_Dude — Mon, 11 Jun 2012 23:14:10 GMT

Author: Captain_Dude

Posted: 06/12/2012 03:14

Just not a fan.

Re: Album of the day (#566): Ready To Die

HigherThanTheSun — Mon, 11 Jun 2012 22:38:26 GMT

Author: HigherThanTheSun

Posted: 06/12/2012 02:38

Nas>Biggie>Kanye>Ghostface

That was pretty fucking hard though, they're all very good.

Biggie shits all over 2 pac though, well all of them do really. Don't know about this racial divide, my black best mate prefers Biggie but maybe I should ask more black and asian people.

Re: Album of the day (#566): Ready To Die

junodog4 — Mon, 11 Jun 2012 18:59:01 GMT

Author: junodog4

Posted: 06/11/2012 22:59

lethalnezzle wrote:

The question is very divisive, and a lot of people tend to think (for some reason) that you must pick your alliegance and then insult the other as often as possible. I think Big was a better rapper, but Pac a better songwriter. Both had truly great albums, and both died too young. If I had to pick one, it'd be Big. But I don't, so I'll continue to listen to both whenever I feel like it.

100% agree. Tupac had stronger lyrics, but Biggie had better rapping skills. I think it's dumb when people can't like them both.

Re: Album of the day (#566): Ready To Die

Hayden — Mon, 11 Jun 2012 16:09:34 GMT

Author: Hayden

Posted: 06/11/2012 20:09

Kanye > Ghostface > Biggie.

Nas would probably be up there if he was more consistent...

Re: Album of the day (#566): Ready To Die

Facetious — Mon, 11 Jun 2012 11:56:38 GMT

Author: Facetious

Posted: 06/11/2012 15:56

lethalnezzle wrote:

It's almost sacrilege amongst my friends to prefer Tupac to Biggie. It's also quite interesting to note the racial lines along which their respective fanbases over here are drawn. I'd say over 90% of white people would say they prefer Biggie, with a similar percentage of Asian (as in Indian/Pakistani/Bangladeshi, as opposed to Oriental) preferring Pac. With black people, it's probably 50/50. I just find that quite odd.

TBH, I really like both. The question is very divisive, and a lot of people tend to think (for some reason) that you must pick your alliegance and then insult the other as often as possible. I think Big was a better rapper, but Pac a better songwriter. Both had truly great albums, and both died too young. If I had to pick one, it'd be Big. But I don't, so I'll continue to listen to both whenever I feel like it.

I prefer Biggie, to tell the truth. Pac made two AWESOME albums, but Ready to Die beats them both.

And I'm Pakistani 😐

Re: Album of the day (#566): Ready To Die

Anonymous — Mon, 11 Jun 2012 11:15:28 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 06/11/2012 15:15

Trickington wrote:

I like 2pac better than Biggie.

My friend loves this album. I guess I should give it more of a look then.

Re: Album of the day (#566): Ready To Die

Trickington — Mon, 11 Jun 2012 10:24:40 GMT

Author: Trickington

Posted: 06/11/2012 14:24

I like 2pac better than Biggie.

My friend loves this album. I guess I should give it more of a look then.

Re: Album of the day (#566): Ready To Die

Anonymous — Sun, 10 Jun 2012 22:41:19 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 06/11/2012 02:41

The album isn't flawless. 'Illmatic' is flawless. But Nas was never as charismatic or accessible as Biggie. Wu broke down the doors for hard East Coast rap (in the vein of Kool G. Rap) to make a real comeback, and Big's smooth, effortless flow combined with Puffy's pop sensibilities spawned a truly great album and the blueprint for commercial rap throughout the rest of the nineties. I could listen to this album all day, and it is so much better than 'Life After Death'. However, it's another case of 'right place, right time'.

Re: Album of the day (#566): Ready To Die

Cafu86 — Tue, 5 Jun 2012 12:26:12 GMT

Author: Cafu86

Posted: 06/05/2012 16:26

Forget about Pac and all that west coast crap - east coast classics like this,
is the shit !!!

If anubody want to hear some creepy stuff,
then check out Suicidal Thoughts (Lorn Remix)
That version gives me the creeps!

Re: Album of the day (#566): Ready To Die

Facetious — Tue, 5 Jun 2012 00:17:14 GMT

Author: Facetious

Posted: 06/05/2012 04:17

thejoj96 wrote:

An all-time great hip hop album.

Agree with this.

80/100

Re: Album of the day (#566): Ready To Die

junodog4 — Mon, 4 Jun 2012 23:14:30 GMT

Author: junodog4

Posted: 06/05/2012 03:14

Meh... Biggie is more talented than 2pac, but they did employ similar patterns to their careers. I wouldn't say that 2pac isn't in Biggie's league, he's just not quite to his standard.

Re: Album of the day (#566): Ready To Die

Anonymous — Mon, 4 Jun 2012 22:59:50 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 06/05/2012 02:59

Biggie's so much more talented than 'pac and shouldn't be uttered in the same breath. And yeah this album is a masterpiece of hip-hop. The combination of talking bout how rich and successful he is and then talking about his 'suicidal thoughts' is pitch perfect contrast.

Re: Album of the day (#566): Ready To Die

junodog4 — Mon, 4 Jun 2012 19:29:38 GMT

Author: junodog4

Posted: 06/04/2012 23:29

Biggie had the smoothest flow... I compare him to Tupac - immensely talented, supported by gifted producers, and strong flow. Sometimes their lyrics are pure poetry, sometimes its misogynistic cliched crap. It's too bad they were both cocksure morons who couldn't turn away from the thug life.

Re: Album of the day (#566): Ready To Die

HigherThanTheSun — Mon, 4 Jun 2012 18:53:11 GMT

Author: HigherThanTheSun

Posted: 06/04/2012 22:53

Yeah this is a classic, right up there with Illmatic and 36 Chambers.

The whole thing's great but my favourite moments would be Gimme The Loot and Respect.

From the Beretta, putting all the holes in your sweater
The money getter, motherfuckers don't have better

Re: Album of the day (#566): Ready To Die

paladisiac — Mon, 4 Jun 2012 18:19:31 GMT

Author: paladisiac

Posted: 06/04/2012 22:19

one of those albums i've always been meaning to listen to

Re: Album of the day (#566): Ready To Die

GeevyDallas — Mon, 4 Jun 2012 17:56:24 GMT

Author: GeevyDallas

Posted: 06/04/2012 21:56

Don't believe the hype,Gimme Pac anyday.

Re: Album of the day (#566): Ready To Die

Boogn1sh — Mon, 4 Jun 2012 17:34:09 GMT

Author: Boogn1sh

Posted: 06/04/2012 21:34

A lot of amazing tracks on this album, but for some reason Warning is the one that has stuck with me the most, and pretty much the only one I still come back to, since its never on the radio or playing at the bar. How something so over the top can still feel authentic is quite a feat, comparing Rick Ross's "acting" to Biggie's, there's no competition. When Biggie says, "There's gonna be a lot of slow singing, and flower bringing, if my burglar alarm starts ringing" you fully believe it.

Re: Album of the day (#566): Ready To Die

Hayden — Mon, 4 Jun 2012 17:07:59 GMT

Author: Hayden

Posted: 06/04/2012 21:07

thejoj96 wrote:

An all-time great hip hop album.

yeah.

Juicy is easily one of the best hip-hop songs ever too.

Re: Album of the day (#566): Ready To Die

Anonymous — Mon, 4 Jun 2012 16:01:04 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 06/04/2012 20:01

An all-time great hip hop album.