Best Ever Albums

Re: Milestone Albums According to the only that matters: YOU

Robert Anton Wilson — Sun, 6 Jan 2013 12:41:48 GMT

Author: Robert Anton Wilson

Posted: 01/06/2013 17:41

Saoirse wrote:

... and in an Un Chien Andalou sort of way ...

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Re: Milestone Albums According to the only that matters: YOU

sysyphus69 — Sun, 6 Jan 2013 11:21:30 GMT

Author: sysyphus69

Posted: 01/06/2013 16:21

ok you win

Re: Milestone Albums According to the only that matters: YOU

Anonymous — Sun, 6 Jan 2013 11:13:58 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 01/06/2013 16:13

sysyphus69 wrote:

i was in high school when all of this happened

Good for you.

Re: Milestone Albums According to the only that matters: YOU

sysyphus69 — Sun, 6 Jan 2013 11:12:43 GMT

Author: sysyphus69

Posted: 01/06/2013 16:12

i was in high school when all of this happened, and i see a whole lot of of similarities that maybe aren't very noticable but i am guessing that most of the next generations of rappers listened to it as much as nwa.

Re: Milestone Albums According to the only that matters: YOU

Anonymous — Sun, 6 Jan 2013 10:55:33 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 01/06/2013 15:55

sysyphus69 wrote:

it took a back seat to the nwa album in sales and popularity among people that didn't really matter but the geto boys album had way more street cred. it must have been dubbed 60 million times.

from wiki

The group is credited for putting the South on the hip hop music map and inspired a legion of acts, including 2Pac, The Notorious B.I.G., Eminem, UGK, T.I., Goodie Mobb, OutKast, 50 Cent, Chamillionaire, Lil Wayne, Rick Ross, Young Jeezy, Juvenile, Mystikal, Esham[5]

I'd argue that Grip It! On That Other Level was more important in terms of putting the South on the map, but the production is undeniably superior on the self-titled effort (which, of course, came after Grip It!). The group were a big influence on a lot of acts, but I wouldn't argue they were any more influential than Kool G. Rap or NWA. The introspective side to them was probably their most lasting legacy, and Scarface is one of the best to ever touch mic (I'd argue that at least three of his solo records are far superior to anything the Geto Boys did as a group), but they weren't doing anything particularly groundbreaking. Having more street cred does not necessarily equate to more impact and influence, and I think it's a strange assumption to say that they even did have more street cred than NWA. Everyone's entitled to their opinion, but pulling things off Wikipedia isn't the best way to fight your case. Of those acts mentioned (from the Wiki quote), most of them are Southern rappers whose only real connection to the Geto Boys is the fact they too are from the South. UGK, Goodie Mob and Outkast are not remotely influenced by the Geto Boys either sonically or thematically, and they themselves were far more influential in sculpting what we now think of as that Southern sound.

Re: Milestone Albums According to the only that matters: YOU

sysyphus69 — Sun, 6 Jan 2013 10:47:54 GMT

Author: sysyphus69

Posted: 01/06/2013 15:47

it took a back seat to the nwa album in sales and popularity among people that didn't really matter but the geto boys album had way more street cred. it must have been dubbed 60 million times.

from wiki

The group is credited for putting the South on the hip hop music map and inspired a legion of acts, including 2Pac, The Notorious B.I.G., Eminem, UGK, T.I., Goodie Mobb, OutKast, 50 Cent, Chamillionaire, Lil Wayne, Rick Ross, Young Jeezy, Juvenile, Mystikal, Esham[5]

Re: Milestone Albums According to the only that matters: YOU

Anonymous — Sun, 6 Jan 2013 10:31:48 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 01/06/2013 15:31

sysyphus69 wrote:

the geto boys self titled changed everything

Care to explain in what way?

Re: Milestone Albums According to the only that matters: YOU

sysyphus69 — Sun, 6 Jan 2013 10:28:04 GMT

Author: sysyphus69

Posted: 01/06/2013 15:28

the geto boys self titled changed everything

Re: Milestone Albums According to the only that matters: YOU

Anonymous — Sun, 6 Jan 2013 09:45:57 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 01/06/2013 14:45

purple wrote:

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Re: Milestone Albums According to the only that matters: YOU

CellarDoor — Sun, 6 Jan 2013 09:19:26 GMT

Author: CellarDoor

Posted: 01/06/2013 14:19

Great list lethal !! �'�

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Re: Milestone Albums According to the only that matters: YOU

Anonymous — Sun, 6 Jan 2013 09:16:28 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 01/06/2013 14:16

Aight, here are what I consider to be landmark albums in hip-hop. The list is in no way complete (I've neglected the Mannie Fresh No Limit / Cash Money sound that helped the careers of Juvenile, Birdman and Lil Wayne, whilst the Three 6 Mafia get no love either despite what they did for the genre. Also, there's no sign of The Geto Boys despite them being the first breakout stars from the South, whilst originators such as Kurtis Blow or the Sugarhill Gang aren't deemed worthy of a mention. There's no DMX or Ja Rule or Ludacris or, more recently, T.I., despite their importance in shaping the sound of commercial hip-hop over the last decade or so. There's also no room for Lauryn Hill or The Fugees. Great artists like Common and The Roots also can't find a place. It may not seem very fair, but I've narrowed it down to a bare minimum based somewhat on my tastes and somewhat on what I consider to be the general consensus, but there's always going to be something missing). Needless to say, everybody should own all of these, including the honourable mentions:

Run-DMC - Raising Hell (1986)

Established hip-hop as a mainstream force, simple as that. It's not too much of a stretch to say that we might, without the crossover success of Run-DMC, be talking about hip-hop as a fad that happened in the '80s.

Honourable mentions: LL Cool J - Radio (1985), Beastie Boys - Licensed To Ill (1986)

Eric B. & Rakim - Paid In Full (1987)

Before Rakim, rappers used to just rhyme the last syllable of each line and that was acceptable. Rakim paved the way for internal rhyme scheme and technique to come to the fore, and is basically the father of modern rapping.

Honourable mentions: Slick Rick - The Great Adventures of Slick Rick (1988), The D.O.C. - No One Can Do It Better (1989), Kool G. Rap & DJ Polo - Road To The Riches (1989)

Public Enemy - It Takes a Nation of Millions to Hold Us Back (1988)

Angry and in-your-face, both the album's political stance and its' Bomb Squad production were hugely influential. Ice Cube's solo career would take on a very different slant were it not for this album, rappers such as Mos Def, Pharoahe Monch and Talib Kweli may never have had the same careers without Chuck D's influence, and producers like El-P would never have thought to draw from the same dark sonic palette.

Honourable mentions: Boogie Down Productions - By All Means Necessary (1988), EPMD - Strictly Business (1988), Ice Cube - AmeriKKKa's Most Wanted (1990)

NWA - Straight Outta Compton (1988)

The first gangsta rap album to go truly mainstream, and one that had huge repercussions throughout popular culture. It had been done before, but never had it found its' way into so many middle-class white households. This album must've scared the shit out of a lot of parents, but its' main influence is probably in the fact that it created a period of West Coast gangsta rap dominance that lasted half a decade, despite the genre being invented in New York.

Honourable mentions: Too $hort - Born To Mack (1987), Ice-T - Power (1988)

De La Soul - 3 Feet High and Rising (1989)

This album basically showed how far sampling could be pushed (or at least, how far people thought it could be pushed at that time), and also brought a sense of lyrical playfulness to a genre that was bogged down in gangsta posturing and militant Nation of Islam doctrine. It was also the first hip-hop album to utilize skits (for better or worse).

Honourable mentions: Ultramagnetic MCs - Critical Beatdown (1988), Beastie Boys - Paul's Boutique (1989)

A Tribe Called Quest - The Low End Theory (1991)

Perfectly bridged two generations of music by matching jazz with hip-hop in new and exciting ways. Proved that sometimes a James Brown or Incredible Bongo Band sample just doesn't cut it, and created a coherent masterpiece whilst doing so. To my ears, at least, this album is the first completely coherent hip-hop "classic album" (not to say I don't love others - there are earlier hip-hop albums that I prefer to this), but it sort of set the benchmark that albums such as Illmatic and, more recently, Kendrick's GKMC have attempted to live up to, i.e. hip-hop to be taken seriously.

Honourable mentions: Jungle Brothers - Straight Out The Jungle (1988), Gang Starr - Daily Operation (1992), The Pharcyde - Bizarre Ride II The Pharcyde (1992), A Tribe Called Quest - Midnight Marauders (1993)

Dr. Dre - The Chronic (1992)

Popularized the West Coast G-funk sound that replaced James Brown samples with George Clinton interpolations and live music. Shaped the classic West Coast sound and image that has remained prominent ever since. Launched the career of Snoop Dogg and consolidated the career of the now legendary Dr. Dre.

Honourable mentions: DJ Quik - Quik Is The Name (1991), Snoop Doog - Doggystyle (1993)

Wu-Tang Clan - Enter the Wu-Tang (36 Chambers) (1993)

Holding off on its' influence for a second, just look at the number of major careers it launched - Raekwon, Ghostface, Method Man, ODB, GZA, RZA. Now, to its' influence: it helped to sculpt the gritty NY sound that I love more than any other, helped to create the cult of the personality in hip-hop, helped to form the street slang that has been so prominent in hip-hop since.

Honourable mention: GZA - Liquid Swords (1995)

Nas - Illmatic (1994)

If The Low End Theory was the first classic rap 'album' in the traditional sense, then Illmatic perfected the mold. Thought by many to be the greatest rap album of all-time, its' memorable beats courtesy of the best who ever did it (DJ Premier, Large Professor, Q-Tip, etc.) and introspective, almost abstract rhymes about street life made it a standout that had a huge hand in shaping hip-hop ever since. Ask virtually any conscious or backpack rapper that started rhyming post-'94, and - virtually to a man - they'll tell you Illmatic was their Bible.

Honourable mention: Mobb Deep - The Infamous (1995)

The Notorious B.I.G. - Ready To Die (1994)

The first album to successfully marry massive crossover pop hits and 'songs for the ladies' with hard gangsta rap. Whatever it is he actually did, Puffy's influence is clear in terms of the massive pop hooks and sugary smooth beats, which serve as the perfect foil to Biggie's simultaneously smooth yet rugged flow. This album is essentially the blueprint for every crossover street rapper since, from Jay-Z to Ja Rule to 50 Cent.

Honourable mentions: 2Pac - All Eyez On Me (1996), The Notorious B.I.G. - Life After Death (1997), 50 Cent - Get Rich or Die Trying (2003)

Raekwon - Only Built 4 Cuban Linx... (1995)

Mafioso rap is such a large strand of hip-hop, particularly on the East Coast, and this is the ultimate mafioso rap album. The protagonists (Rae and Ghost) sounded like gangsters from the movies, and this really is the pinnacle of the cinematic, slang-laden, Tony Montana-influenced subgenre of hip-hop, that as recently as Roc Marciano's Reloaded has produced a great album.

Honourable mentions: Kool G. Rap & DJ Polo - Live and Let Die (1992), Scarface - The Diary (1994), AZ - Doe or Die (1995), and...

Jay-Z - Reasonable Doubt (1996)

...which added a radio-friendly sheen to said mafioso rap, helped to invent the idea of being a hustler first and foremost in hip-hop, and launched the career of the biggest rapper in the world.

Honourable mention: Nas - It Was Written (1996)

UGK - Ridin' Dirty / Outkast - ATLiens (both 1996)

Both of these albums were completely instrumental in shaping and popularising the funky Southern sound that became so massive and influential in the mid-to-late '90s. They had an organic, at times psychedelic, always funky sound that artists continue to try and emulate to this day (just look at Big K.R.I.T.). Also, without the four rappers across these two albums, we'd be looking at a very different landscape in terms of lyrics and flow. Arguably the two best rappers of 2012 both owe a lot to UGK and Outkast - Freddie Gibbs is a direct descendant of Bun B, whilst there's a whole lot of Andre 3000 in Kendrick Lamar's rhyme structure.

Honourable mentions: UGK - Too Hard to Swallow (1992), Outkast - Southerplayalisticadillacmuzik (1994), Goodie Mob - Soul Food (1995), Outkast - Aquemini (1998)

Company Flow - Funcrusher Plus / Black Star - Mos Def and Talib Kweli are Black Star (1997/1998)

Rawkus Records launched the careers of some of the underground's biggest names, essentially pushing backpack rap into the mainstream and shaping the sound of underground hip-hop in ways that are still prominent today. Its' Soundbombing and Lyricist Lounge compilations showcased Rawkus' wide variety of talents, most notably Mos Def and Talib Kweli. Company Flow's El-P went on to form indie label Def Jux, another label which helped to shape - and whose name is synonymous with - underground hip-hop.

Honourable mentions: Mos Def - Black on Both Sides (1999), Various Artists - Soundbombing II (1999), Cannibal Ox - The Cold Vein (2001)

Jay-Z - The Blueprint (2001)

Jay-Z is the only artist with two albums in this list (unless you count Raekwon), and with good reason too - The Blueprint was the pad which helped launch producers Kanye West and Just Blaze into the stratosphere. All of a sudden, chipmunk soul beats were de riguer, and you couldn't escape them. Jay-Z single-handedly made these producers - and their particular sound - cool, and hip-hop has never looked back.

Honourable mentions: Scarface - The Fix (2002), Kanye West - The College Dropout (2004)

Madvillain - Madvillainy (2004)

Perhaps a strange choice, but I think it is only now - almost a decade on from its' release - that we will begin to see the impact this album has had on a generation of hip-hop artists. The most recent album on this list has shown its' influence heavily in a few of 2012's releases, most notably Action Bronson's Blue Chips, Captain Murphy's Duality and Earl Sweatshirt's single 'Chum'. I believe the bizarre, almost ADHD sonic palette and vivid abstract rhymes of Madvillainy will come to be seen as major benchmarks in a rap industry that - thanks to our post-regional landscape and instant access culture - is growing increasingly weird. And that can only be a good thing.

Honourable mention: J Dilla - Donuts (2006)

Re: Milestone Albums According to the only that matters: YOU

CellarDoor — Sun, 6 Jan 2013 08:37:19 GMT

Author: CellarDoor

Posted: 01/06/2013 13:37

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Re: Milestone Albums According to the only that matters: YOU

Anonymous — Sun, 6 Jan 2013 05:30:54 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 01/06/2013 10:30

A four year old rhythmically banging on a boxcar door during the depression started it all, dahlings. Let's stop this tussle and go listen to the Residents and then watch Two and a Half Men

why is this video relevant

Re: Milestone Albums According to the only that matters: YOU

Anonymous — Sun, 6 Jan 2013 05:30:25 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 01/06/2013 10:30

CellarDoor wrote:

faget

u wnt sum fuk?

Re: Milestone Albums According to the only that matters: YOU

CellarDoor — Sun, 6 Jan 2013 05:27:02 GMT

Author: CellarDoor

Posted: 01/06/2013 10:27

I'm Amazed, faget. This is where it all comes from :

Link

Re: Milestone Albums According to the only that matters: YOU

Anonymous — Sun, 6 Jan 2013 05:23:31 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 01/06/2013 10:23

Well, if we're really going to go to origins, I'm pretty sure this started it, gayboys.

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Re: Milestone Albums According to the only that matters: YOU

Norman Bates — Sun, 6 Jan 2013 04:27:51 GMT

Author: Norman Bates

Posted: 01/06/2013 09:27

purple wrote:

Talk Talk started this, frenchman

Heldon did, American boy.

Link

1974 bitches.

Re: Milestone Albums According to the only that matters: YOU

CellarDoor — Sun, 6 Jan 2013 04:25:20 GMT

Author: CellarDoor

Posted: 01/06/2013 09:25

purple wrote:

Talk Talk started this, frenchman

Talk Talk were a continuation of jazzy ambient pop. Spiderland created its own genre.

Re: Milestone Albums According to the only that matters: YOU

Anonymous — Sun, 6 Jan 2013 03:08:19 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 01/06/2013 08:08

sethmadsen wrote:

The premier of Igor Stranvinsky's Rite of Spring- Music that caused an actual riot. Now given, it most likely was more because of a woman doing something to a decapitated head, but it was also because the music was so unnerving.

The Rite of Spring is a amazingly awesome piece of music.... I'd riot to hear it!

🤣

Re: Milestone Albums According to the only that matters: YOU

RoundTheBend — Sun, 6 Jan 2013 03:05:01 GMT

Author: RoundTheBend

Posted: 01/06/2013 08:05

The premier of Igor Stranvinsky's Rite of Spring- Music that caused an actual riot. Now given, it most likely was more because of a woman doing something to a decapitated head, but it was also because the music was so unnerving.

Well and then of course all of the Bananarama albums...