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Re: 2112 by Rush

albummaster — Sat, 16 Mar 2013 04:54:08 GMT

Author: albummaster

Posted: 03/16/2013 08:54

an_outlaw wrote:

I'm not liking the way the first song, 2112, has been cut up. It's a single track. It would be incorrect to assume each part is its own song, despite only one or two parts of it being played at live shows on occasions.

I thought I would make a post here as albummaster changed it. Didn't want to take it on myself to change it back. Would it be possible to argue the case to return the song to '2112'?

Apologies, I changed it incorrectly. Somebody suggested this 'correction' to the track listing, and I should have verified it properly before changing it. I'll revert the listing back to how it was (& for the record, I don't mind other people correcting my mistakes if/when they spot any other problems).

Re: 2112 by Rush

Anonymous — Fri, 15 Mar 2013 21:46:14 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 03/16/2013 01:46

Defago wrote:

F#A# was pretty confusing to rate for me too. I have it (and have always known it) as three tracks, but here it's subdivided in a bunch of parts, which are very weird. Makes it hard to rate tracks...

Another problem with F♯A♯∞ is how the track listing from the cd version is different from the vinyl version. And while the vinyl version was the original, I'm pretty sure most members here (myself included) are familiar with the cd version

Re: 2112 by Rush

Defago — Fri, 15 Mar 2013 17:17:18 GMT

Author: Defago

Posted: 03/15/2013 21:17

F#A# was pretty confusing to rate for me too. I have it (and have always known it) as three tracks, but here it's subdivided in a bunch of parts, which are very weird. Makes it hard to rate tracks...

Re: 2112 by Rush

Anonymous — Fri, 15 Mar 2013 16:03:30 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 03/15/2013 20:03

Well, technically it's 3 1/2 points compared two 1/2. But if you comment on all of them, you get 14 points instead of 2. So that's a major plus.

Re: 2112 by Rush

Anonymous — Fri, 15 Mar 2013 15:56:55 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 03/15/2013 19:56

Jasonconfused wrote:

This is actually one of the reasons I haven't rated the songs on the album. I honestly don't know where one part ends and the other begins. It's all just one track to me.. as it truly is.

Just rate all 7 parts with the same rating you would give the whole song. Then you get 7 points instead of 1.

Re: 2112 by Rush

Anonymous — Fri, 15 Mar 2013 14:59:32 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 03/15/2013 18:59

What if there was an option where you could decide whether you can rate songs like 2112 and "Jesus of Suburbia" as a whole, or rate it in parts? This would not count for every song, only songs that are seperated into Part 1, Part 2, etc. on the back cover's track listing or in the lyrics pages in the booklet.

Re: 2112 by Rush

Jasonconfused — Fri, 15 Mar 2013 14:52:36 GMT

Author: Jasonconfused

Posted: 03/15/2013 18:52

This is actually one of the reasons I haven't rated the songs on the album. I honestly don't know where one part ends and the other begins. It's all just one track to me.. as it truly is.

Re: 2112 by Rush

Facetious — Fri, 15 Mar 2013 14:07:39 GMT

Author: Facetious

Posted: 03/15/2013 18:07

Relax, guys, just wait until AM comes.

Re: 2112 by Rush

Anonymous — Fri, 15 Mar 2013 13:13:34 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 03/15/2013 17:13

Jasonconfused wrote:

It is ridiculous. The concept of the song is split into parts, but it is one track.
Not sure about everyone else, but I am outraged that JMan's taste is deciding the layout for some of my favorite albums. Can we please start filtering his suggestions a bit more efficiently?

I only suggested it. It was a moderator or Albummaster who actually did it. I didn't expect it to happen! Get mad at them before you get made at me, Jason!

Re: 2112 by Rush

Jasonconfused — Fri, 15 Mar 2013 13:11:45 GMT

Author: Jasonconfused

Posted: 03/15/2013 17:11

JMan wrote:

The song has seven different sub-songs in it. People like some of those parts and hate some of those parts. My reasoning is NOT ridiculous no matter how much you want it to be.

Re: 2112 by Rush

Anonymous — Fri, 15 Mar 2013 13:06:12 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 03/15/2013 17:06

Jasonconfused wrote:

I'm appalled at the ridiculousness of your reasoning for giving this example. How about we split the songs into verses and choruses and solos too? What if I only like a few seconds of the song? Should we split it into that too? Unfuckingbelievable. Sorry for my strong feelings on this subject, but this album in particular hits a soft spot considering how high it is on my chart.

The song has seven different sub-songs in it. People like some of those parts and hate some of those parts. My reasoning is NOT ridiculous no matter how much you want it to be.

Re: 2112 by Rush

Jasonconfused — Fri, 15 Mar 2013 13:01:37 GMT

Author: Jasonconfused

Posted: 03/15/2013 17:01

JMan wrote:

I didn't try to base it on radio. That was just a small example. There were parts of the song I liked, like Overture, Temples of Syrinx, and Underture, and there were parts I wasn't that fond of like the two parts before Underture.

Re: 2112 by Rush

Romanelli — Fri, 15 Mar 2013 12:43:09 GMT

Author: Romanelli

Posted: 03/15/2013 16:43

Regardless of what we like and don't like, it should be listed as it is on the album. The album shows "2112" as a single track with seperate parts. It should be on site the same way.

Re: 2112 by Rush

Anonymous — Fri, 15 Mar 2013 12:35:16 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 03/15/2013 16:35

Jasonconfused wrote:

That should be changed back immediately. If we start basing BEA on the radio, the whole thing will go to shit.

Re: 2112 by Rush

Jasonconfused — Fri, 15 Mar 2013 12:19:24 GMT

Author: Jasonconfused

Posted: 03/15/2013 16:19

JMan wrote:

That was my suggestion. I suggested it because some people only like certain parts of 2112. For example, the radio here only gets Overture ln the radio and no other part. I think AM changed it.

That should be changed back immediately. If we start basing BEA on the radio, the whole thing will go to shit.

Re: 2112 by Rush

Anonymous — Fri, 15 Mar 2013 11:43:32 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 03/15/2013 15:43

an_outlaw wrote:

That was my suggestion. I suggested it because some people only like certain parts of 2112. For example, the radio here only gets Overture ln the radio and no other part. I think AM changed it.

Re: 2112 by Rush

Anonymous — Fri, 15 Mar 2013 11:12:34 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 03/15/2013 15:12

Is there a version of the album that had them split?

I know, for instance, with the Spirit of Eden, in US releases the first three tracks were split into three, whereas they were combined in Europe.

2112 by Rush

Anonymous — Fri, 15 Mar 2013 10:54:04 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 03/15/2013 14:54

I'm not liking the way the first song, 2112, has been cut up. It's a single track. It would be incorrect to assume each part is its own song, despite only one or two parts of it being played at live shows on occasions.

I thought I would make a post here as albummaster changed it. Didn't want to take it on myself to change it back. Would it be possible to argue the case to return the song to '2112'?