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Re: Chart points for small charts

RFNAPLES — Wed, 20 Mar 2013 08:32:29 GMT

Author: RFNAPLES

Posted: 03/20/2013 12:32

Have it a function of Level 9 and above or for paid members only.

Re: Chart points for small charts

albummaster — Wed, 20 Mar 2013 03:16:06 GMT

Author: albummaster

Posted: 03/20/2013 07:16

Ochurch25 wrote:

Could this be an optional change as I would not like to see a level 7 person with one entry in their chart have more power over a level 2 person with 100 entries in their chart.

Level 2 users can only have a maximum of 50 entries, so the weighting will probably apply until around Level 4 where charts can be up to 100 entries. The exact mechanism hasn't been decided yet, so people can still input into this. Bigger charts don't necessarily mean better charts. People could still pack their chart with rubbish just to gain a higher weighting, so basing on levels seems a fairer way of doing it and makes the site less easier to game.

Re: Chart points for small charts

eclab — Mon, 18 Mar 2013 19:35:42 GMT

Author: eclab

Posted: 03/18/2013 23:35

albummaster wrote:

Hi, something similar came up recently where a suggestion was made that rank points should be tied to member levels and I think this is likely to be implemented as it would improve the quality of charts (not just the overall chart, but also the year and decade charts which can be influenced quite heavily at the moment). The weightings still need to be decided, but this is definitely something on the cards.

Sounds great. Thanks for giving us such a great site 😄

Re: Chart points for small charts

Anonymous — Mon, 18 Mar 2013 12:42:13 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 03/18/2013 16:42

albummaster wrote:

Could this be an optional change as I would not like to see a level 7 person with one entry in their chart have more power over a level 2 person with 100 entries in their chart.

Re: Chart points for small charts

Cymro2011 — Mon, 18 Mar 2013 05:03:03 GMT

Author: Cymro2011

Posted: 03/18/2013 09:03

Great, looking forward to see what this will do.

Re: Chart points for small charts

albummaster — Mon, 18 Mar 2013 04:59:22 GMT

Author: albummaster

Posted: 03/18/2013 08:59

Hi, something similar came up recently where a suggestion was made that rank points should be tied to member levels and I think this is likely to be implemented as it would improve the quality of charts (not just the overall chart, but also the year and decade charts which can be influenced quite heavily at the moment). The weightings still need to be decided, but this is definitely something on the cards.

Re: Chart points for small charts

Mother Nature's Son — Sun, 17 Mar 2013 18:03:07 GMT

Author: Mother Nature's Son

Posted: 03/17/2013 22:03

Defago wrote:

Another cool thing to implement would be to consider only chart which have been recently updated (6 months, 1 year?). There are a lot of charts which were created years ago and the user left after creating it and never updated it, and they still contribute to the overall.

I'm much more into this than the original suggestion.

Re: Chart points for small charts

Anonymous — Sun, 17 Mar 2013 18:01:56 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 03/17/2013 22:01

Behrus58 wrote:

isn't it better to effect the level of the user too ?

U know someone who is level 7 knows a lot more albums that other's do. So the ratings are closer to what the reality is !

Anyway ! just a suggestion

That is not absolute. Somebody who is Level 7 could achieve that from posting a lot in the forums or doing a lot of moderation stuff.

Re: Chart points for small charts

Anonymous — Sun, 17 Mar 2013 17:31:57 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 03/17/2013 21:31

Behrus58 wrote:

No, I think everyone's opinion should be equal as music is all subjective anyway.

Re: Chart points for small charts

Behrus58 — Sun, 17 Mar 2013 17:30:24 GMT

Author: Behrus58

Posted: 03/17/2013 21:30

isn't it better to effect the level of the user too ?

U know someone who is level 7 knows a lot more albums that other's do. So the ratings are closer to what the reality is !

Anyway ! just a suggestion

Re: Chart points for small charts

Anonymous — Sun, 17 Mar 2013 17:19:15 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 03/17/2013 21:19

How about instead of this:
"Rank score = ((n - (r - 1)) ÷ n) × w

where:
w = Chart weight (Overall charts: 100, Decade charts: 20*, Year charts: 5*, Custom charts: 0).
n = Total number of entries in the chart.
r = Album's rank within the chart."

We have:

Rank Score = ((n - (r - 1)) ÷ n) × w - (r/n+1 x w)

Therefore an album with a rank of 1 in a chart of one entry would get 50.
If the chart had 3 entries then #1 would get 75, #2 would get 50 and #3 would get 25.
Number 1 in a chart of 9 would get 90.
Basically, the more entries you have, the closer the rank score of the top entry gets to 100.

Re: Chart points for small charts

Defago — Sun, 17 Mar 2013 17:07:45 GMT

Author: Defago

Posted: 03/17/2013 21:07

Another cool thing to implement would be to consider only chart which have been recently updated (6 months, 1 year?). There are a lot of charts which were created years ago and the user left after creating it and never updated it, and they still contribute to the overall.

Re: Chart points for small charts

MrFrogger — Sun, 17 Mar 2013 14:48:22 GMT

Author: MrFrogger

Posted: 03/17/2013 18:48

Yea, that sounds pretty good

Re: Chart points for small charts

Cymro2011 — Sun, 17 Mar 2013 14:48:19 GMT

Author: Cymro2011

Posted: 03/17/2013 18:48

JMan wrote:

I second this opinion. But wouldn't it take a lot of rearranging of the top album statistics?

Well, I'm up for anything as long as OK Computer isn't number 1.

thirded.

Re: Chart points for small charts

Anonymous — Sun, 17 Mar 2013 14:46:43 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 03/17/2013 18:46

I second this opinion. But wouldn't it take a lot of rearranging of the top album statistics?

Well, I'm up for anything as long as OK Computer isn't number 1.

Chart points for small charts

eclab — Sun, 17 Mar 2013 14:03:43 GMT

Author: eclab

Posted: 03/17/2013 18:03

I assume this question has been asked before, but why on earth do 1 album charts count for 100 points for the only album? I think it says a lot more about the quality of an album if someone who has come up with a top 100 chart places it at the top. I don't get why someone who casually joins the site, adds their favourite album, and never shows up again, should cause 100 points to go that album.

I think the top album on a chart should get as many points as there are albums on that chart. Am I wrong?