Best Ever Albums

Re: CLOSED- Cosmogramma def Burst Apart

Anonymous — Tue, 7 May 2013 09:15:54 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 05/07/2013 13:15

I think this a good result for the variety of the tournament. And the result I wanted. I like both albums, but I think Cosmogramma is considerably better than Burst Apart.

Re: CLOSED- Cosmogramma def Burst Apart

pearljammer13 — Tue, 7 May 2013 08:57:20 GMT

Author: pearljammer13

Posted: 05/07/2013 12:57

Saoirse wrote:

A HEATED MATCH, BUT COSMOGRAMMA BURNS JUST A LITTLE BRIGHTER

sorry for these lame jokes

I enjoyed it, but not the result. Gross result.

Re: CLOSED- Cosmogramma def Burst Apart

videoheadcleaner — Tue, 7 May 2013 07:57:22 GMT

Author: videoheadcleaner

Posted: 05/07/2013 11:57

Saoirse wrote:

A HEATED MATCH, BUT COSMOGRAMMA BURNS JUST A LITTLE BRIGHTER

sorry for these lame jokes

That's the best way to end a matchup; puns.

Re: CLOSED- Cosmogramma def Burst Apart

Anonymous — Tue, 7 May 2013 07:02:07 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 05/07/2013 11:02

A HEATED MATCH, BUT COSMOGRAMMA BURNS JUST A LITTLE BRIGHTER

sorry for these lame jokes

Re: CLOSED- Cosmogramma def Burst Apart

Anonymous — Sun, 5 May 2013 18:57:10 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 05/05/2013 22:57

Puncture Repair wrote:

It's not arguing, it's a discussion - which, at least for me, is the reason I'm here on the forums. There's nothing asinine about that.

You have a point...It wasn't that I wanted to halt discussion, discussion is great, I just didn't want to it to turn into an argument or anything. It didn't come off that way, I see now. I'm sorry about that.

Re: CLOSED- Cosmogramma def Burst Apart

Anonymous — Sun, 5 May 2013 05:53:06 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 05/05/2013 09:53

fair enough and well argued. It is pretty much I said at the end of my paragraph, if we're talking about good quality stuff then most genre's are generally comparable.

and I agree well reasoned discussion ftw.

Re: CLOSED- Cosmogramma def Burst Apart

Anonymous — Sun, 5 May 2013 04:13:57 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 05/05/2013 08:13

Jhereko wrote:

In what universe? Indie just needs a set of riffs, a niceish voice that's not too abrasive and a dash of emotion and people will call it great. Experimental electronica has to always be striving to do what people haven't done before...otherwise it won't fall under that category...it'll just come under one of the many many many electronica sub-genres.

Thinking more on it, since I've attempted both....it probably is equal if you're looking at the quality of it...but then that probably goes for most genres...except hip-hop which would be a damn sight harder...but maybe that's just because I can't rap...ramblingramblingrambling...

also even though I'd said I'd voted for Cosmogramma before I only just voted for it...so the distance groooows...

also also I think this is each respective artist's best work.

It's exactly that simplicity that makes it harder, though. Pop/Rock has so many imitations that the challenge is to create something new and exciting from the very basic guidelines. Of all Indie Pop albums, Burst Apart is ranked highly on this site because it's been done well in spite of countless other indie pop attempts.
You say Hip-Hop is a darn sight harder, and I'd agree, but again that's because, at it's very core, is one of the most simple genres. Hip Hop really only consists of a beat and rhythmic spoken word - that's child's play, anyone can do that, and that's why there's a hell of a lot of awful rap out there. But when an artist is able to take that core and make an interesting, detailed beat matched with pentameter that flows well with the beat and has clever lyrics and rhymes, then you get great hip hop.

Whenever we have 'overrated' artist threads on BEA, Pop/Rock artists are always the names the pop up - people don't hate on experimental electronic music, or classical, or avant garde stuff etc. That's because the guidelines are so much higher, and there's much less competition. People will often listen to weirder stuff without questioning it's quality because it's open to interpretation; not that there's anything wrong with that. Just looking through this thread, not a single person has said a bad thing about Flying Lotus, yet if it was an equally popular Pop/Rock record, I think there would a greater split in opinion.

BrandonMeow wrote:

Can't we just listen to the albums, decide which we like better, and vote for them? This arguing is asinine.

It's not arguing, it's a discussion - which, at least for me, is the reason I'm here on the forums. There's nothing asinine about that.

Re: CLOSED- Cosmogramma def Burst Apart

ptaylor1989 — Sat, 4 May 2013 21:39:14 GMT

Author: ptaylor1989

Posted: 05/05/2013 01:39

SilverWalrus wrote:

That's completely fair, although I wasn't being completely serious with the comment on Cosmogramma, I do think it is a great album. I did kind of do a shit job hyping it, and I've always had a hard way putting into words why an album as great, more just how I feel about. I posted a bit too much about nothing in this thread and I realize that now, I just fanboy over The Antlers too much. I understand why you'd be pissed in that case and it is completely fair for you have a written that comment, despite the actual contents of the comment. I'm sorry for how I handled this thread, hope we can be good with each other from now on and I'll do a better job of promoting my albums from now on in the tournament.

Well-handled; respect earned... Now back to the music

Re: CLOSED- Cosmogramma def Burst Apart

Anonymous — Sat, 4 May 2013 20:49:28 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 05/05/2013 00:49

ptaylor1989 wrote:

I had no right to post a pissed-off comment, but I am pissed that you chose to attack my album rather than focus on the aspects of your album that really shine and make it, unto itself, one helluva album. You have no objective data to back up the above 2 claims either. What's really frustrating is that you complain your album isn't getting more attention (or is better than my album, whatever) when you did a shit job of even remotely hyping your album. I love The Antlers and this specific album but I dislike the way you've handled this thread and if I were any of the other member, I'd definitely take that into account.

Re: CLOSED- Cosmogramma def Burst Apart

Anonymous — Sat, 4 May 2013 20:01:36 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 05/05/2013 00:01

Can't we just listen to the albums, decide which we like better, and vote for them? This arguing is asinine.

Re: CLOSED- Cosmogramma def Burst Apart

ptaylor1989 — Sat, 4 May 2013 19:21:37 GMT

Author: ptaylor1989

Posted: 05/04/2013 23:21

SilverWalrus wrote:

I think we've had this discussion too many times on this site and it always ends up being pointless. I way prefer Burst Apart, so no, all things equal Burst Apart is better.

I'm fully aware of the obj/sub argument. Tit-for-tat isn't a solution, and I'm sorry for being an ass.

SilverWalrus wrote:

The only advantage that Cosmogramma has over it is that Cosmogramma would probably open some mind altering perceptions in your mind if you listened to it high.

Re: CLOSED- Cosmogramma def Burst Apart

Anonymous — Sat, 4 May 2013 19:01:11 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 05/04/2013 23:01

Puncture Repair wrote:

I'd argue indie pop is harder to do well than experimental electronic music and still be appreciated by music fans.

Re: CLOSED- Cosmogramma def Burst Apart

Anonymous — Sat, 4 May 2013 17:01:56 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 05/04/2013 21:01

ptaylor1989 wrote:

I throughly enjoy The Antlers and maybe I could be convinced Hospice is better but lets be real. all things equal, bias for a certain genre aside, Burst Apart just isn't a better album. The first few songs of Burst Apart are memerable, the last song is a good close but I didn't even have to pull out Flying Lotus' best album to defeat Burst Apart. I'm not gonna bash the album but I'm glad to see the bracket is doing its job. I have much more faith the end result will be something of quality.

I'm trying to reserve my better review for a tougher matchup

Kind of wanna switch my vote because of this comment (too bad I can't). If I wanted to hear all this "blah is objectively greater than blah" or "Blah is objectively the greatest" bullshit, I'd just look at the comment section of a Rush video.

Re: CLOSED- Cosmogramma def Burst Apart

pearljammer13 — Sat, 4 May 2013 16:56:49 GMT

Author: pearljammer13

Posted: 05/04/2013 20:56

SilverWalrus wrote:

Are you implying that Cosmogramma is an objectively better album? I think we've had this discussion too many times on this site and it always ends up being pointless. I way prefer Burst Apart, so no, all things equal Burst Apart is better.

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Re: CLOSED- Cosmogramma def Burst Apart

Anonymous — Sat, 4 May 2013 16:15:47 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 05/04/2013 20:15

ptaylor1989 wrote:

This felt really cold.

I'd argue indie pop is harder to do well than experimental electronic music and still be appreciated by music fans.

Re: CLOSED- Cosmogramma def Burst Apart

Anonymous — Sat, 4 May 2013 16:07:45 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 05/04/2013 20:07

ptaylor1989 wrote:

Re: CLOSED- Cosmogramma def Burst Apart

JohnCenaFan69 — Sat, 4 May 2013 09:36:27 GMT

Author: JohnCenaFan69

Posted: 05/04/2013 13:36

COSMOGRAMMA!

Re: CLOSED- Cosmogramma def Burst Apart

ptaylor1989 — Sat, 4 May 2013 07:02:20 GMT

Author: ptaylor1989

Posted: 05/04/2013 11:02

I throughly enjoy The Antlers and maybe I could be convinced Hospice is better but lets be real. all things equal, bias for a certain genre aside, Burst Apart just isn't a better album. The first few songs of Burst Apart are memerable, the last song is a good close but I didn't even have to pull out Flying Lotus' best album to defeat Burst Apart. I'm not gonna bash the album but I'm glad to see the bracket is doing its job. I have much more faith the end result will be something of quality.

I'm trying to reserve my better review for a tougher matchup

Re: CLOSED- Cosmogramma def Burst Apart

Anonymous — Sat, 4 May 2013 03:43:47 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 05/04/2013 07:43

This poll isn't over yet. Come on people, it can still happen, Burst Apart could maybe come back.

Re: CLOSED- Cosmogramma def Burst Apart

Anonymous — Thu, 2 May 2013 20:51:02 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 05/03/2013 00:51

Saoirse wrote:

Remember, people, that the first round matches are purposefully long in order for people to have time to catch up on albums they haven't heard yet, there is still four days left.

(and sorry again Antlers fans, they got dealt some really tough first-round matchups)

It's some bullshit. Knew I should have nominated In the Attic too. But Hospice is better than Burst Apart, and Cosmogramma is better than MBDTF, so I think Hospice may pull it out.