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Re: Updating album info

albummaster — Mon, 16 Sep 2013 14:15:47 GMT

Author: albummaster

Posted: 09/16/2013 18:15

I'm still monitoring this problem. The database server has now been upgraded which seems to have improved things slightly, but there remains an issue. I'll fix this as soon as I've identified the cause.

Re: Updating album info

Anonymous — Sat, 14 Sep 2013 23:35:06 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 09/15/2013 03:35

gtroda wrote:

This is happening to me tonight. I added a few albums and before I could update there were several copies in the database. I put the info into one so if they are merged it should be okay. No idea why this happened. I didn't do anything different from when I've added albums before.

This just happened to me again. After I added my chart and went to edit the albums there were already multiple copies of the albums.

Re: Updating album info

Mother Nature's Son — Sun, 1 Sep 2013 09:59:12 GMT

Author: Mother Nature's Son

Posted: 09/01/2013 13:59

I don't know if this in relation to the thread, but I've experienced a couple of times now that sometimes when I add an album to my chart, it randomly deletes another album because it was "duplicated". For example, I added an album yesterday and it randomly deleted Standing on the Shoulders of Giants because it was "duplicated", though I'm 100% sure that I didn't add it again when I updated my chart (maybe BEA thinks the album is too bad to be on my overall chart! 🤣 ). Don't know if people already have covered this issue here. It was quite annoying because I had to write a new comment for the album.

Re: Updating album info

Norman Bates — Sun, 1 Sep 2013 05:47:17 GMT

Author: Norman Bates

Posted: 09/01/2013 09:47

albummaster wrote:

Sorry if this isn't explained very well, but I think that's essentially the problem. Now, to just think of a solution to this...

Thanks for the answer. I understand perfectly what you're saying, but thing is, the release year had been specified in the first place, therefore there was no reason for the site to give the record a default year! When I went to the admin page for the record that had been first entered, it did show 2013 as release year. But it showed "0" when I tried to add it to the chart.

Re: Updating album info

albummaster — Sun, 1 Sep 2013 04:41:20 GMT

Author: albummaster

Posted: 09/01/2013 08:41

Norman Bates wrote:

Hello ! More trouble: there is that album that I want to add to my 2013 chart. The album is already in the database, here:

http://www.besteveralbums.com/thechart.php?a=45718

However, when I type this into my chart editing page, the album does exist, but is not date properly: in fact, it is dated year 0, as shown here.

Thumbnail. Click to enlarge.

Which means that if I enter it all the same, the site treats it as a different LP and then I can see there is a duplicate (but I don't know how to merge duplicates, or even if I can).

Can anybody help?

Thanks for the detail, I think I might understand what might be causing the problem better now.

When a new album is added to the site, there is no detail for that album except the title and artist (no year added at this point). The year of release, artwork and track listing are added afterwards via the admin pages.

Year and decade charts need to know the year of the album so that they are available for selection for the relevant year or decade that the chart pertains to. After adding a 'new' album to a chart, if the same album is then required in a different year or decade chart before the year of release is populated for the 'new' album, the album will still have a default year of release which would mean a year or decade chart wouldn't know that this album should be available for selection. So, what happens then is, because the 'new' album can't be selected due to the missing year of release, it then gets added again.

Sorry if this isn't explained very well, but I think that's essentially the problem. Now, to just think of a solution to this...

Re: Updating album info

drakonium — Sat, 31 Aug 2013 18:58:10 GMT

Author: drakonium

Posted: 08/31/2013 22:58

I can't help, but your red line is really cute <3

Re: Updating album info

Norman Bates — Sat, 31 Aug 2013 16:54:54 GMT

Author: Norman Bates

Posted: 08/31/2013 20:54

Hello ! More trouble: there is that album that I want to add to my 2013 chart. The album is already in the database, here:

http://www.besteveralbums.com/thechart.php?a=45718

However, when I type this into my chart editing page, the album does exist, but is not date properly: in fact, it is dated year 0, as shown here.

Thumbnail. Click to enlarge.

Re: Updating album info

Anonymous — Fri, 30 Aug 2013 23:55:59 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 08/31/2013 03:55

It's happening to me again tonight. I can see no logical reason why on this end.

Re: Updating album info

Norman Bates — Tue, 27 Aug 2013 08:42:10 GMT

Author: Norman Bates

Posted: 08/27/2013 12:42

gtroda wrote:

2 nights ago, probably around when the problem happened for Norman, I noticed that the site was running really slow and taking a long time to refresh.

Yes it did. The site was very slow.

Re: Updating album info

Anonymous — Tue, 27 Aug 2013 08:12:13 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 08/27/2013 12:12

2 nights ago, probably around when the problem happened for Norman, I noticed that the site was running really slow and taking a long time to refresh. But last night it was running fine and I didn't notice anything unusual when I was adding these albums to my charts. I don't believe I did anything different from what I've ever done before.

Re: Updating album info

albummaster — Tue, 27 Aug 2013 03:40:57 GMT

Author: albummaster

Posted: 08/27/2013 07:40

Thanks, just noticed it has happened again. I'm not sure why, over the last couple of days, this has started happening because no code has changed on the site recently, and it's interesting that the same thing has now happened to more than one person. I'm just wondering how it might have happened so that I can add something to the site to stop it happening again.

The only time albums are added to the site is when a chart is saved, as the admin pages only allow updates of existing albums (& not new additions). When the chart was saved, did it happen to take longer than usual, or perhaps the page was refreshed while it was saving the chart, or perhaps something else happened that seemed unusual at the time? (there's nothing in the error logs to indicate what the problem might have been)

Re: Updating album info

Anonymous — Tue, 27 Aug 2013 00:10:41 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 08/27/2013 04:10

albummaster wrote:

For some reason, there were a lot of duplicate albums added with the same titles. I'm not sure if this was part of the problem or not, but these have now all been merged into a single release.

Re: Updating album info

albummaster — Mon, 26 Aug 2013 13:58:44 GMT

Author: albummaster

Posted: 08/26/2013 17:58

Apologies, that's the first time this problem has been reported. I'll check into and see why it happened. I can't quite understand at the moment how multiple copies of the same album would have been added, unless it was via a chart.

Re: Updating album info

Norman Bates — Mon, 26 Aug 2013 10:35:11 GMT

Author: Norman Bates

Posted: 08/26/2013 14:35

albummaster wrote:

For some reason, there were a lot of duplicate albums added with the same titles. I'm not sure if this was part of the problem or not, but these have now all been merged into a single release.

When I saw the updates hadn't worked, I re-updated - still didn't work. Maybe that explains the multiple release bug? Anyway, it's working now. Thanks.

Re: Updating album info

albummaster — Mon, 26 Aug 2013 10:07:57 GMT

Author: albummaster

Posted: 08/26/2013 14:07

For some reason, there were a lot of duplicate albums added with the same titles. I'm not sure if this was part of the problem or not, but these have now all been merged into a single release.

Re: Updating album info

Norman Bates — Mon, 26 Aug 2013 07:56:49 GMT

Author: Norman Bates

Posted: 08/26/2013 11:56

Doing it otherwise, seems to work.

Updating album info

Norman Bates — Mon, 26 Aug 2013 04:09:25 GMT

Author: Norman Bates

Posted: 08/26/2013 08:09

Hello! Although I do moderate every new album I put in and save my changes, the changes don't appear afterwards and the album is still artless and trackless.

See for instance Lee Morgan's ¡Caramba!, for which I have entered all the necessary data (tracks, release year, album art, none of them appear after moderation) :

http://www.besteveralbums.com/thechart.php?a=46001

Same thing happened last night with other LPs.

EDIT : on the other hand, it worked with The Deviants' Disposable :

http://www.besteveralbums.com/thechart.php?a=46002

🤔

EDIT (2) : tried the trick with another year, it will accept the last album moderated, although every time I moderate one, it tells me the album was "successfully updated".