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Re: Release Dates

albummaster — Fri, 7 Nov 2014 03:04:41 GMT

Author: albummaster

Posted: 11/07/2014 08:04

Skinny wrote:

*open tab* *google [insert album title here] release date* *close tab*

you don't even have to do that, just click the 'Google' link at the top of the admin album pages and most of the work is done for you...

Albums are only flagged temporarily (often for only a day or so) until a release date is added. If a release date cannot be located, this can be reported via a data correction & the nag will be removed.

Re: Release Dates

benpaco — Fri, 7 Nov 2014 01:05:03 GMT

Author: benpaco

Posted: 11/07/2014 06:05

Skinny wrote:

*open tab* *google [insert album title here] release date* *close tab*

As I pointed out before:

benpaco wrote:

How about albums which have "release dates" that make either no sense (see: The Dopamines [Remastered Edition] came out 3 years before The Dopamines according to most sources) or vary by a few days, or even several years? Some don't even have dates associated, just years and months. Those include:

Hurtbreak Wonderland by World's End Girlfriend (20 charts)
The Dopamines by The Dopamines (2 charts)
Young Mountain by This Will Destroy You (13 charts)
RawHyde by Jeremiah Jae and Oliver The 2nd (4 charts and upcoming tournament)
I Thought I Was an Alien by Soko (9 charts)
Fine Line by The Papersons (5 charts)
Cross Paths by The Motifs (31 charts)
鳥が歌う by kyooo (4 charts)
What I Want From You Is Sweet by Orion Rigel Dommisse (6 charts)
Mature Themes by Ariel Pink's Haunted Graffiti (27 charts)
Glimmer by Jacaszek (10 charts)
Songs for Adverts by Dave (5 charts)
New Brigade by Iceage (42 charts)
Radio Tank Mix by AG Cook (9 charts)
Summer Fiction by Summer Fiction (3 charts)
Square by Buck 65 (16 charts, 17 once I update my overall tonight)
Ciao!Baby by The Marshmallow Kisses (3 charts)
San Fermin by San Fermin (13 charts)
The Back Room by Editors (71 charts)
Prophet by Ramona Falls (6 charts)
Tears You Apart by Finish Ticket (3 charts)
A Fever You Can't Sweat Out (31 charts)
Demons and Lakes by Ravenna Woods (2 charts)
Support Mistley Swans by Dingus Khan (4 charts)
Infinity by Chance Waters (1 chart)
Silent Alarm by Bloc Party (281 charts)
Oh No by OK Go (7 charts)
Wicked Man's Rest by Passenger (4 charts)
Walking Down Rainhill by Jake Shimabukuro (1 chart)
A Weekend in the City by Bloc Party (74 charts)

Are we really going to delete all of those? Are we going to take 40% of Brandon's top ten off the site? Just guesstimate the dates, furthering the confusion that exists over these albums? Some of us might even know, and if so, that's great. Maybe some of us know the artists and can ask them. But I doubt it.

I understand now that these albums won't be deleted, but won't the flag show up on all the charts like what's happening now with Impatiens? I guess my confusion comes from how an album which is flagged will actually be displayed on site.

Re: Release Dates

Skinny — Thu, 6 Nov 2014 14:05:45 GMT

Author: Skinny

Posted: 11/06/2014 19:05

*open tab* *google [insert album title here] release date* *close tab*

Re: Release Dates

mickilennial — Thu, 6 Nov 2014 13:58:18 GMT

Author: mickilennial

Posted: 11/06/2014 18:58

SuedeSwede wrote:

I just think it's a *lot* of work, man. There's like ~30,000 albums on this site without a release date. Is it worth all the work just to get a moderately useful resource?

Most data moderators are basically volunteers and if more people put the effort into a cohesive database we wouldn’t ask the question “is it too much work”, I think a lot of the pro-data moderation users got lazy (like me) or simply stopped doing it so a lot of us need a good kick in the shins to get the site going again. There’s no real excuse not to if we care about the site and want to genuinely help the staff.

Re: Release Dates

Romanelli — Thu, 6 Nov 2014 13:57:17 GMT

Author: Romanelli

Posted: 11/06/2014 18:57

SuedeSwede wrote:

I like the idea of whole release dates, but I feel it's pretty weird just doing it for the past 10 years... it's a little late to go through *all* of the database and label with days and months, I get that. Which is why I don't know why you're just doing it for the past 10 years...

Anyways, I will help as far as I can because I try to do my part in data moderation every now and then, saves so much work for those who would just go ahead and do it all themselves (and I am thankful for that stuff, btw). More importantly, I get why you'd implement this as a resource, but it's a little late to start doing that, and why not just all albums and not just those of the past 10 years, if you're going to dedicate doing that?

My guess is that ten years was decided on as kind of a medium ground. It's alot of albums, but not nearly as many as going back to the beginning of time. The ten years thing is taking time, but real progress is being made. And when it's finally done, it will just be for newly added albums.

It's also an additional way for users to add on points. So if anyone os looking to be able to make more charts, and be able to help the site out, it's all welcome.

Re: Release Dates

SuedeSwede — Thu, 6 Nov 2014 13:55:33 GMT

Author: SuedeSwede

Posted: 11/06/2014 18:55

Gowienczyk wrote:

It’s never too late to implement a resource.

I just think it's a *lot* of work, man. There's like ~30,000 albums on this site without a release date. Is it worth all the work just to get a moderately useful resource?

Re: Release Dates

mickilennial — Thu, 6 Nov 2014 13:53:01 GMT

Author: mickilennial

Posted: 11/06/2014 18:53

It’s never too late to implement a resource.

Re: Release Dates

SuedeSwede — Thu, 6 Nov 2014 12:54:16 GMT

Author: SuedeSwede

Posted: 11/06/2014 17:54

Romanelli wrote:

If you're not doing any of the work, and if it affects you absolutely not at all, why do you care? And you might get better answers if you were a little more respectful when you asked.

The point is to have complete release dates here instead of having to go to RYM or Discogs to get them if you want them. IF YOU WANT THEM.

If not, you can ignore the whole thing and it well not have any effect on you.

People complain when nothing is done. Now, people complain when something gets done. No pleasing people here....

Re: Release Dates

Romanelli — Thu, 6 Nov 2014 12:48:54 GMT

Author: Romanelli

Posted: 11/06/2014 17:48

SuedeSwede wrote:

You literally answered none of my questions. I understand why you're flagging them for deletion. My point is, why bother going through all that work to change release dates when you could just keep it so release dates would only have to be provided if the album was released in the current year?

Re: Release Dates

SuedeSwede — Thu, 6 Nov 2014 12:40:42 GMT

Author: SuedeSwede

Posted: 11/06/2014 17:40

Romanelli wrote:

Again....

Nothing is going to be deleted. They are being flagged so that the people who are doing all the hard work of implementing this (previously discussed and user approved) change can find the albums. If you don't like it, you can ignore it...it will change absolutely nothing if you do.

Or, you can take a few minutes once in a while and help out.

Either way...it's really nothing to be so upset about.

Re: Release Dates

Romanelli — Thu, 6 Nov 2014 12:36:27 GMT

Author: Romanelli

Posted: 11/06/2014 17:36

SuedeSwede wrote:

I know this has already been brought up before somewhere, but for real, this needs to be sorted.

WHY the last 10 years? Why not just this current year? I mean, I get it if you're like "oh it's a 2014 release but it might not have already been released" and thus supplying a release date means future releases can easily be found on the database.

But for real, it's annoying when I'm adding an album from the past 10 years and I have to *keep* adding a release date, I really don't see the point in it. I also heard something about those albums from the past 10 years that don't have a release date will be flagged for deletion? I really don't get this.

Basically I find it incredibly stupid that we have this release date for anything other than the current year. That is all.

kthxbai.

Release Dates

SuedeSwede — Thu, 6 Nov 2014 09:49:09 GMT

Author: SuedeSwede

Posted: 11/06/2014 14:49

I know this has already been brought up before somewhere, but for real, this needs to be sorted.

WHY the last 10 years? Why not just this current year? I mean, I get it if you're like "oh it's a 2014 release but it might not have already been released" and thus supplying a release date means future releases can easily be found on the database.

But for real, it's annoying when I'm adding an album from the past 10 years and I have to *keep* adding a release date, I really don't see the point in it. I also heard something about those albums from the past 10 years that don't have a release date will be flagged for deletion? I really don't get this.

Basically I find it incredibly stupid that we have this release date for anything other than the current year. That is all.

kthxbai.