Best Ever Albums

Re: modern hip hop

goeie-oko — Thu, 4 Jun 2015 16:57:39 GMT

Author: goeie-oko

Posted: 06/04/2015 20:57

I don't know, I kind of dislike most of the "golden age" hip hop artists, so my preference is definitely in the newer stuff, but I can see how people say the old stuff is better.

However, if you say that there isn't good hip hop still being made, (which I'm not saying you are) then you're not looking hard enough, there's still plenty of amazing hip hop albums. (the top 2 albums of the 2010's on RYM are both hip hop albums)

Re: modern hip hop

WindowAbove — Thu, 4 Jun 2015 13:40:56 GMT

Author: WindowAbove

Posted: 06/04/2015 17:40

Listen to modern hip hop albums on my chart

Re: modern hip hop

Ollie — Thu, 4 Jun 2015 11:47:34 GMT

Author: Ollie

Posted: 06/04/2015 15:47

I've been listening to a lot of Death Grips recently. I don't really know what the BEA consensus is on them (if there is one), but I think they're amazing. If you look past their abrasiveness you can find the most incredible lyricism, it's unlike anything I could imagine on a hip hop album:

"Dismiss this life, worship death
Cold blood night of serpent's breath
Exhaled like spells from the endlessness
In the bottomless wells of emptiness
Channeled to invoke what we represent"

Re: modern hip hop

Anonymous — Thu, 4 Jun 2015 11:35:58 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 06/04/2015 15:35

Lol I prefer "mainstream" modern hip hop to any other type or era

Re: modern hip hop

Ollie — Thu, 4 Jun 2015 11:35:47 GMT

Author: Ollie

Posted: 06/04/2015 15:35

Skinny wrote:

There is no nice way to tell somebody they like Childish Gambino.

"Sir, you may want to take a seat for this. Having looked at your records, we can confirm that you like Childish Gambino. We'll do all we can, but it may be terminal. I suggest you spend some valuable time with your wife and children. I'm so sorry."

this made me laugh more than it should have

Re: modern hip hop

Hayden — Thu, 4 Jun 2015 10:55:53 GMT

Author: Hayden

Posted: 06/04/2015 14:55

Skinny wrote:

🤣

You won me over with 'looked at your records'.

Re: modern hip hop

Skinny — Thu, 4 Jun 2015 10:50:13 GMT

Author: Skinny

Posted: 06/04/2015 14:50

There is no nice way to tell somebody they like Childish Gambino.

"Sir, you may want to take a seat for this. Having looked at your records, we can confirm that you like Childish Gambino. We'll do all we can, but it may be terminal. I suggest you spend some valuable time with your wife and children. I'm so sorry."

Re: modern hip hop

Hayden — Thu, 4 Jun 2015 10:43:49 GMT

Author: Hayden

Posted: 06/04/2015 14:43

....

I mean this in the nicest way possible, but you have Childish Gambino on your overall chart.... 😐

Quote:

how rap has slowly moved from the rappers lyricism to the producers ability to make a good, catchy beat?

..... 😨

I'm not really sure what to recommend for you to listen to 🙁 You also have Mm.. Food in your top 10, which is awesome, but it just kinda confuses me.

Re: modern hip hop

Jasonconfused — Thu, 4 Jun 2015 04:18:37 GMT

Author: Jasonconfused

Posted: 06/04/2015 08:18

Good thread. I'll get some great stuff from here as well.

Re: modern hip hop

Skinny — Thu, 4 Jun 2015 03:02:24 GMT

Author: Skinny

Posted: 06/04/2015 07:02

AMBNTnoises wrote:

](*,) #overload
I'll check a few ou., are there any specifically in that list that I should 10/10, can't live without, must try?

Roc Marciano's Reloaded, Freddie Gibbs' Pinata, Billy Woods' History Will Absolve Me, Open Mike Eagle's Dark Comedy, Jonwayne's Rap Album One, Earl Sweatshirt's I Don't Like Shit, I Don't Go Outside, Ka's Grief Pedigree.

Re: modern hip hop

AMBNTnoises — Thu, 4 Jun 2015 02:48:14 GMT

Author: AMBNTnoises

Posted: 06/04/2015 06:48

🧱 #overload
I'll check a few ou., are there any specifically in that list that I should 10/10, can't live without, must try?

Re: modern hip hop

Skinny — Thu, 4 Jun 2015 02:41:18 GMT

Author: Skinny

Posted: 06/04/2015 06:41

Try Roc Marciano, Freddie Gibbs, Ka, Kevin Gates, Billy Woods, Quelle Chris, Open Mike Eagle, Jonwayne, Blu, Has-Lo, Homeboy Sandman, Earl Sweatshirt, Ratking, Jeremiah Jae, Serengeti, Action Bronson, Killa Kyleon, Jay Rock, Rittz, Curly Castro, Domo Genesis, Milo, etc..

Re: modern hip hop

AMBNTnoises — Thu, 4 Jun 2015 01:24:39 GMT

Author: AMBNTnoises

Posted: 06/04/2015 05:24

Gowi wrote:

Only in the contemporary charts and media; in a way the talented lyricists still remain but are hardly (even in the 90s, heck) present in the pop-rap form.

Yeahhh, I get that. I just wish it was easier to find them. It makes me sad that normal people will hear flick a the wrist and think that its quality rap.

Re: modern hip hop

babyBlueSedan — Thu, 4 Jun 2015 01:20:01 GMT

Author: babyBlueSedan

Posted: 06/04/2015 05:20

I think a lot of popular rappers fit into the trend you described, but there are tons of modern rappers who don't. Just look at Kendrick - for me the production on Good Kid Maad City is larger forgettable and the album is carried entirely by his lyrics. TPAB boasts better production, but he also really stepped up his lyrical game. And there are tons of other examples - Chance the Rapper and Earl Sweatshirt are some of the most interesting lyricists currently, and neither relies on catchy beats (Earl tends to purposely avoid them, actually). I actually kind of dislike the production on Danny Brown's Old, but his lyrics are great and are the reason I love his music so much. So while a lot of mainstream rappers tend to write songs that center on a hook (and don't get me wrong, many of these are good songs), I don't think it's a phenomenon that's completely taken over rap.

And I also tend to disagree on older rap as well (at least if we're talking pre-1990 or so). I feel like a lot of early rap lyrics, while clever and interesting, were centered primarily on how great of an MC the rapper is. Paid in Full and Follow the Leader, while great albums with clever rhyme schemes, are not at all lyrically diverse. What I've heard of Run-DMC is the same (though I haven't heard much, so I may be wrong here). This started to change as the decade turned, but even some of the better regarded albums in the "golden age" of hip hop have pretty forgettable lyrics. I've always thought Fear of a Black Planet was really overrated, since most of the lyrics are just Chuck D stating the theme of the song and then not saying much more. And interestingly enough, that album is carried by some really catchy sampling. So I think you just need to know where to look for the kind of rap you want to hear.

Re: modern hip hop

mickilennial — Thu, 4 Jun 2015 01:07:52 GMT

Author: mickilennial

Posted: 06/04/2015 05:07

AMBNTnoises wrote:

Am I the only one who is consistently disappointed in how rap has slowly moved from the rappers lyricism to the producers ability to make a good, catchy beat?
I've been delving into the genre lately and have been consistently been finding that the classics are consistently better than the new stuff.

Only in the contemporary charts and media; in a way the talented lyricists still remain but are hardly (even in the 90s, heck) present in the pop-rap form.

Re: modern hip hop

Jasonconfused — Thu, 4 Jun 2015 01:01:54 GMT

Author: Jasonconfused

Posted: 06/04/2015 05:01

It might just be about delving into that style more. It's possible that the approach to the genre has changed, but that'll happen. I know how you feel though. Everyone here can be witness to the fact that when I joined BEA I didn't listen to rap at all. After a while that changed and now I love 90s rap classics. But I seriously can't get into any of the modern rappers. It feels like a completely different genre. But who knows, just the way 90s rap grew on me, maybe modern rap will do the same. I guess you could say I became a Dadrapper 🤔

modern hip hop

AMBNTnoises — Wed, 3 Jun 2015 23:12:19 GMT

Author: AMBNTnoises

Posted: 06/04/2015 03:12

Am I the only one who is consistently disappointed in how rap has slowly moved from the rappers lyricism to the producers ability to make a good, catchy beat?
I've been delving into the genre lately and have been consistently been finding that the classics are consistently better than the new stuff.