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Re: BYT - G6 - 1958 (alelsupreme) vs. 1998 (WindowAbove)

Anonymous — Mon, 29 Jun 2015 19:40:06 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 06/29/2015 23:40

Y'all cowards 1998 is the winner.

Re: BYT - G6 - 1958 (alelsupreme) vs. 1998 (WindowAbove)

Mercury — Sun, 28 Jun 2015 13:57:02 GMT

Author: Mercury

Posted: 06/28/2015 17:57

Just wanted to bump this cuz this is the final 24ish hours. Vote, people. 😄

Re: BYT - G6 - 1958 (alelsupreme) vs. 1998 (WindowAbove)

Anonymous — Tue, 23 Jun 2015 14:43:39 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 06/23/2015 18:43

meccalecca wrote:

Nah. I honestly don't care as much as it must seem. I just thought it was weird that 1958 doesn't count here simply because Kiki's earlier rounds were weak and because Alel dominated earlier with a different year.

I'm totally fine with your round vs me counting. I benefitted from your absent round (even if only indirectly), so it's fair.

Fair enough, like I said the first time you mentioned it I thought it was nothing but the second mention you seemed genuinely miffed by what was happening so I thought it warranted an explanation on my part. I guess I read too much into it.

sp4cetiger wrote:

I think the main reason the deadlines have been strict is because of Defago's limited time. He usually only has a narrow window within his Sunday during which he has time to post the teams and if everyone hasn't submitted their teams by then, it means the whole thing has to be delayed by at least a day. I still haven't heard from Defago about the reason for his absence this week, but I'm gonna give him the benefit of the doubt. Running these tournaments can be very demanding.

Believe me, I understand the frustration on both sides. Putting together the teams can also be time-consuming, especially considering that you have to be so careful about checking the release year, and real life needs to take priority. However, the deadline is technically Saturday night, so there actually is some grace already allowed.

I don't want to make too much light of the concerns here -- competitions aren't fun unless you take them at least a little seriously -- but at the same time it's not worth getting too piqued about. The people who lose here are only inferior insomuch as they have bad taste. And while that certainly makes them bad people as well, I'm sure they still have a few things here and there they can hang their hats on.

Yeah I totally get the amount of work it is to run a tournament and that wasn't meant as a slight at how this one is being run at all (pretty certain I'm the last person who can complain about something in the games forum running late :lol:) or the people running them and like I said there are probably more benefits to the way its being run anyway.

Re: BYT - G6 - 1958 (alelsupreme) vs. 1998 (WindowAbove)

Anonymous — Tue, 23 Jun 2015 14:28:59 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 06/23/2015 18:28

Wombi wrote:

Now I have to defend myself 😮 . Few things; Sp4ce who I was versing for the match acknowledged that he knew I was planning my team for that. I also think that more grace needs to be given to people submitting teams. The matches for this week were posted much later than usual, had I had even a few hours more that first time I would have had a submitted team.

Re: BYT - G6 - 1958 (alelsupreme) vs. 1998 (WindowAbove)

meccalecca — Tue, 23 Jun 2015 14:19:37 GMT

Author: meccalecca

Posted: 06/23/2015 18:19

Wombi wrote:

I let it go the first time because I thought you were just using it as an example but seeing as you taked it on the end of that paragragh in spite of it not having any relevance or comparability to the other situation, you're clearly upset or trying to use this as some kind of smear tactic.

Re: BYT - G6 - 1958 (alelsupreme) vs. 1998 (WindowAbove)

Anonymous — Tue, 23 Jun 2015 14:08:08 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 06/23/2015 18:08

also I'm voting for 1958 too at this point (though I think sp4ce made the right call given the circumstances). Though I'm yet to listen to Somethin Else, At Newport and Moment Of Truth.

Re: BYT - G6 - 1958 (alelsupreme) vs. 1998 (WindowAbove)

Anonymous — Tue, 23 Jun 2015 14:06:27 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 06/23/2015 18:06

meccalecca wrote:

Not like when people have completely failed to post teams for a round, which has given them a stockpile for future rounds.

I let it go the first time because I thought you were just using it as an example but seeing as you tacked it on the end of that paragraph in spite of it not having any relevance or comparability to the other situation, you're clearly upset or trying to use this as some kind of smear tactic. Either way usage of the word 'stockpile' implies intention on my part which isn't very polite of you, I must say. Now I have to defend myself 😮 . Few things; Sp4ce who I was versing for that match acknowledged that he knew I was planning my team for that. I also think that more grace needs to be given to people submitting teams. The matches for this week were posted much later than usual, had I had even a few hours more that first time I would have had a submitted team. When I ran this tournament the first time I wouldn't have run a match if I didn't have someone's team - though that ran into its own troubles (way extended matchdates), so I understand why go this way.

It seems pretty underhanded to continually complain about this in another thread while that matchup is going on so I am more than happy to forfeit any of the top 20 albums of 2008 that I haven't used yet in my next match if that seems like a satisfactory penalty. That's way more than the 5 that first match would have been but if it makes peace, I'm happy.

Re: BYT - G6 - 1958 (alelsupreme) vs. 1998 (WindowAbove)

Norman Bates — Tue, 23 Jun 2015 13:59:23 GMT

Author: Norman Bates

Posted: 06/23/2015 17:59

Hayden wrote:

....? 😐

Well... I'm lost on what's happening behind the scenes, but I prefer the '58 team, so I'm voting that.

Me too. Awesome team.

Re: BYT - G6 - 1958 (alelsupreme) vs. 1998 (WindowAbove)

meccalecca — Tue, 23 Jun 2015 13:58:29 GMT

Author: meccalecca

Posted: 06/23/2015 17:58

sp4cetiger wrote:

But yes, this is weird. With Kiki involved, that was inevitable. :lol:

amen. It's likely this will all be moot when 1998 wins anyway.

Re: BYT - G6 - 1958 (alelsupreme) vs. 1998 (WindowAbove)

Anonymous — Tue, 23 Jun 2015 13:53:11 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 06/23/2015 17:53

meccalecca wrote:

Not that's I'm complaining, but I thin it's weird to give 1998 a free win just because earlier rounds were weak.

That's not what I said.

sp4cetiger wrote:

WindowAbove is facing someone who had no part in 1958 prior to this round, has already fielded four winning teams in the tournament, and who has basically the entire year to choose from for his team.

If Kiki had been working with alelsupreme from the beginning or decided on this team himself, it would be kosher, but that's not what happened.

I know this isn't a black-and-white situation, but I'm gonna stand by the judgement call. In a more serious competition, I'm sure Defago would have insisted on co-captains being chosen ahead of time and alel would never have had the option of taking over the team.

But yes, this is weird. With Kiki involved, that was inevitable. 🤣

Re: BYT - G6 - 1958 (alelsupreme) vs. 1998 (WindowAbove)

meccalecca — Tue, 23 Jun 2015 13:34:23 GMT

Author: meccalecca

Posted: 06/23/2015 17:34

sp4cetiger wrote:

It's not to punish 1958, which has already been eliminated, but to be fair to 1998. You and I basically got free wins because Kiki didn't seem to understand the game (or said he didn't), while WindowAbove is facing someone who had no part in 1958 prior to this round, has already fielded four winning teams in the tournament, and who has basically the entire year to choose from for his team.

I dunno about that. Kiki at least posted teams. And most of the albums he used were among the biggest of the year. The singles were the problem, but 1958 is just a thin year in comparison to more modern years to begin with.

Not that's I'm complaining, but I thin it's weird to give 1998 a free win just because earlier rounds were weak. Those 1958 teams still had a chance. Not like when people have completely failed to post teams for a round, which has given them a stockpile for future rounds.

Re: BYT - G6 - 1958 (alelsupreme) vs. 1998 (WindowAbove)

Anonymous — Tue, 23 Jun 2015 13:13:49 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 06/23/2015 17:13

meccalecca wrote:

In both cases, they may be stronger this round, but had to lose badly in order to have that advantage.

Re: BYT - G6 - 1958 (alelsupreme) vs. 1998 (WindowAbove)

meccalecca — Tue, 23 Jun 2015 12:39:54 GMT

Author: meccalecca

Posted: 06/23/2015 16:39

Hayden wrote:

....? 😐

Well... I'm lost on what's happening behind the scenes

I'm also confused.

Sp4ce, I'm not sure what you mean by this

Quote:

Please note that this match is just for fun. Given the unusual circumstances surrounding Kiki's involvement in this tournament, it would be unfair for WindowAbove to have to face someone with all of the best of 1958 to pick from.

Does that mean that 1958 loses no matter what because the first few rounds were weak?

I'm not really sure how it's any different than Jherry missing a week and having more to choose from because of it.

In both cases, they may be stronger this round, but had to lose badly in order to have that advantage.

Re: BYT - G6 - 1958 (alelsupreme) vs. 1998 (WindowAbove)

Hayden — Tue, 23 Jun 2015 11:32:31 GMT

Author: Hayden

Posted: 06/23/2015 15:32

....? 😐

Well... I'm lost on what's happening behind the scenes, but I prefer the '58 team, so I'm voting that.

Re: BYT - G6 - 1958 (alelsupreme) vs. 1998 (WindowAbove)

WindowAbove — Tue, 23 Jun 2015 10:07:50 GMT

Author: WindowAbove

Posted: 06/23/2015 14:07

Thanks for helping me win Luke!

Re: BYT - G6 - 1958 (alelsupreme) vs. 1998 (WindowAbove)

Mercury — Tue, 23 Jun 2015 01:02:08 GMT

Author: Mercury

Posted: 06/23/2015 05:02

Damn it, kiki, why you have to ruin it! Lol

Anyway, even without the automatic loss, the teams are nicely matched, but almost nothing would get me to go against that absolutely stunning hip hop trifecta of Aquemini, ...are Black Star, and the grand masterwork that is Gang Starr's Moment of Truth. Plus that Refused record is dope and Moon Safari is cool fun, and the singles are fabulous for '98 to boot. Relatively easy vote to one of the sexiest teams we've yet seen, 1998.

Re: BYT - G6 - 1958 (alelsupreme) vs. 1998 (WindowAbove)

Anonymous — Mon, 22 Jun 2015 23:37:52 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 06/23/2015 03:37

Please note that this match is just for fun. Given the unusual circumstances surrounding Kiki's involvement in this tournament, it would be unfair for WindowAbove to have to face someone with all of the best of 1958 to pick from.

So, 1998 will get the win. WindowAbove's team's pretty damn good here, though, so he might get it anyway.

Re: BYT - G6 - 1958 (alelsupreme) vs. 1998 (WindowAbove)

Anonymous — Mon, 22 Jun 2015 23:35:11 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 06/23/2015 03:35

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