Best Ever Albums

Re: Is Pet Sounds the most overrated album?

Anonymous — Tue, 3 May 2016 23:21:03 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 05/04/2016 03:21

The overall #1 album takes the cake, in my opinion.

Re: Is Pet Sounds the most overrated album?

WindowAbove — Tue, 28 Apr 2015 13:42:57 GMT

Author: WindowAbove

Posted: 04/28/2015 17:42

It's the best pop album of the 60s (I haven't heard many pop albums of the 60s) and it's great and emotionally resonant.

Re: Is Pet Sounds the most overrated album?

shoopadoowop — Tue, 28 Apr 2015 11:39:21 GMT

Author: shoopadoowop

Posted: 04/28/2015 15:39

Ok, listened to Pet Sounds again. It's a good album for sure, but I still think 14th best of all time is ridiculously high.

Re: Is Pet Sounds the most overrated album?

shoopadoowop — Mon, 27 Apr 2015 14:26:49 GMT

Author: shoopadoowop

Posted: 04/27/2015 18:26

craola wrote:

**also edit: for future reference, i think if this thread had been titled "let's talk about pet sounds", and the OP had still posted that he thought it was overrated, we'd have avoided some of the page one nonsense.

***still editing: i've read the whole thread now. props to revolver for the catalyst that brought this ship into friendly, conversational harbor.

Yeah mistakes have definitely been made on my part, and I've definitely taken notes to try to avoid it again. My apologies.

Re: Is Pet Sounds the most overrated album?

craola — Mon, 27 Apr 2015 14:19:47 GMT

Author: craola

Posted: 04/27/2015 18:19

Necharsian wrote:

id also say that it also has something to due with BEA's learning curve. most people who start out listening to albums will start with the canonical choices off the bat, and gradually move into more of the niche that they are interested in. so with most members here, they've already heard the beatles and radiohead, but lean further and further away from them as they explore more music. that's how I feel at least.

i would add that to some degree, it feels kind of silly to put the beatles in a chart at this point. it's not that they didn't create great music. i simply don't think i need to tell people they should listen to the beatles. they've already heard that a billion times. there's little that can be said about the beatles that hasn't already been said. beethoven, mozart, chopin, radiohead, pink floyd and the beatles are so canon that they need not be mentioned. that said, i love all of them, and i won't necessarily exclude them from my chart if/when i finish revising it. the beatles probably won't be. i love 'em, but i'm in the same boat as you - i have no incentive to re-visit them anymore. i'm a little burnt out on beatles.

Re: Is Pet Sounds the most overrated album?

craola — Mon, 27 Apr 2015 13:55:07 GMT

Author: craola

Posted: 04/27/2015 17:55

i just saw this thread for the first time, saw it was posted yesterday, saw it was 10 pages long and thought, "crap. who'd we lose this time?"

then i read through the most recent comments and discover there is actually some positive discussion taking place and (didn't read the whole thread, but) no drama. #sohappiness

*edit(s): seriously, i enjoy all of your opinions at this point, and i would be sad to see any of you go. (even those of you who are boneheads with horrible opinions about everything from life to music to dating to movies to board games and pocket monsters)

**also edit: for future reference, i think if this thread had been titled "let's talk about pet sounds", and the OP had still posted that he thought it was overrated, we'd have avoided some of the page one nonsense.

***still editing: i've read the whole thread now. props to revolver for the catalyst that brought this ship into friendly, conversational harbor.

Re: Is Pet Sounds the most overrated album?

meccalecca — Mon, 27 Apr 2015 13:51:55 GMT

Author: meccalecca

Posted: 04/27/2015 17:51

Necharsian wrote:

I completely agree. This makes perfect sense. And there's users like myself who may stray from including canon albums on our overall charts because it just serves no purpose to do so anymore.

Re: Is Pet Sounds the most overrated album?

Necharsian — Mon, 27 Apr 2015 13:47:55 GMT

Author: Necharsian

Posted: 04/27/2015 17:47

meccalecca wrote:

I never really leaned further away from the rock canon as much as I have expanded my horizons. I still love stuff like Pet Sounds, OK Computer and White Album as much as ever, and possibly appreciate them even more.

I guess the "moving further away" thing might not be accurate for the site itself, but I mean when you start listening to a lot more albums (and finding more great ones) it makes the number of possible chart entries (ie albums one loves) much larger as well. So the more great non canon albums slowly take over the canon ones. Could also be an age thing as well. You've listened to OKC and the White Album for longer than some members here have been alive 😉 so I doubt youll ever not love them.

ive definitely fallen into the moving away from certain things as ive listened to more tho. I don't hate the beatles or anything but ive moved into a sort of indifference. haven't listened to a full album of theirs in years and I don't really have motivation to either. Pet Sounds is the same way. I listened to OKC for the first time in a really long time a week or two ago and I didn't even finish it. tho to be fair I never loved it to begin with. Kid A still gets regular listen time tho, but that's it really.

Re: Is Pet Sounds the most overrated album?

Anonymous — Mon, 27 Apr 2015 13:47:46 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 04/27/2015 17:47

meccalecca wrote:

Yeah, agree with this, though I think Nech also has a point that people do tend to start with classics (like the Beatles), even if their tastes end up veering in a totally different direction.

As for the whole Pet Sounds vs. Beatles albums, I know many people who have listened to a lot of music who still love the Beatles albums. However... the one thing I will say about Pet Sounds that can't be said about any of the Beatles albums is that it's a singular personal statement. John Lennon had said on several occasions that the songs on the Beatles albums were largely interchangeable and that they were not written (for the most part) to go with a particular theme or mood. While I think George Martin did a masterful job putting them together into great-sounding albums, I've had trouble convincing myself that any of them belong in my top 10 just because they tend to lack this special personal cohesion that an album like In the Aeroplane Over the Sea has. That may also be why Plastic Ono Band is higher on my chart than any Beatles album.

They're still my favorite band, though.

Re: Is Pet Sounds the most overrated album?

meccalecca — Mon, 27 Apr 2015 13:25:26 GMT

Author: meccalecca

Posted: 04/27/2015 17:25

Necharsian wrote:

Re: Is Pet Sounds the most overrated album?

Necharsian — Mon, 27 Apr 2015 13:19:17 GMT

Author: Necharsian

Posted: 04/27/2015 17:19

revolver94 wrote:

i'm not saying that they do that it to look cool, simply that they tend to find niches and specialize. plus, it could be argued that most classics are kind of a common denominator between everyone, and that since they appeal to everyone a certain degree, theyre less likely to resonate w/ individuals the way certain, nichier albums.

also i mean what im saying isnt even like, hard to notice, like charts that are beatles/radiohead/floyd laden are called boring w/ no personality, which im inclined to agree with. it's like, find what makes you you, and that's what's going to resonate w/ you the most (if ur a cool cat) and make it to the top of your charts

Re: Is Pet Sounds the most overrated album?

revolver94 — Mon, 27 Apr 2015 12:47:08 GMT

Author: revolver94

Posted: 04/27/2015 16:47

RockyRaccoon wrote:

fuck that noise man, anyone who would summarily dismiss any album simply because it would make them "look" a certain way if they listened to it and enjoyed it is a moron, and I have a pretty strong feeling that virtually none of the regulars here are like that at all.

Re: Is Pet Sounds the most overrated album?

Muslim-Bigfoot — Mon, 27 Apr 2015 11:42:51 GMT

Author: Muslim-Bigfoot

Posted: 04/27/2015 15:42

CubaZed wrote:

About as interesting as The Tired Sounds of Stars of the Lid on an upper.

Hey, you don't know about that.

Re: Is Pet Sounds the most overrated album?

Anonymous — Mon, 27 Apr 2015 10:51:15 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 04/27/2015 14:51

CubaZed wrote:

Best part was when Pseudo and Shoop started talking about tree camouflage.

I'll second that. Sorry I'm late, just got a little turned around on my way back from the forest.

Re: Is Pet Sounds the most overrated album?

RockyRaccoon — Mon, 27 Apr 2015 10:43:41 GMT

Author: RockyRaccoon

Posted: 04/27/2015 14:43

CubaZed wrote:

About as interesting as The Tired Sounds of Stars of the Lid on an upper.

top quality

Re: Is Pet Sounds the most overrated album?

RockyRaccoon — Mon, 27 Apr 2015 10:41:15 GMT

Author: RockyRaccoon

Posted: 04/27/2015 14:41

10/10 thread

would read and feel judgmental about OP again

revolver94 wrote:

im posting because i think its v interesting how users on this site, when they become more well-versed in music, tend to stray away from rating the classics really high on their chart. for example, very few prominent members will have a beatles album in their top 10.

Re: Is Pet Sounds the most overrated album?

SuedeSwede — Mon, 27 Apr 2015 10:18:22 GMT

Author: SuedeSwede

Posted: 04/27/2015 14:18

CubaZed wrote:

About as interesting as The Tired Sounds of Stars of the Lid on an upper.

🤣

Re: Is Pet Sounds the most overrated album?

russycarps — Mon, 27 Apr 2015 03:40:45 GMT

Author: russycarps

Posted: 04/27/2015 07:40

I think sunflower is their best, though there are a couple of duds on it..

I dont think any of their albums are consistently brilliant all the way through.

Re: Is Pet Sounds the most overrated album?

Anonymous — Mon, 27 Apr 2015 02:10:07 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 04/27/2015 06:10

Gowi wrote:

I thought similarly about ten years ago, too, by the way.

Yeah, it took a while for it to resonate with me too. Trying to think what made it click, I used to think The Smile Sessions was miles better (still think it's slightly better) for the longest time and then I sort of played Pet Sounds one morning trying to understand what made it "better" and it fully came together. I think the mood I was in was something like happy + world weary?

Re: Is Pet Sounds the most overrated album?

shoopadoowop — Mon, 27 Apr 2015 01:59:46 GMT

Author: shoopadoowop

Posted: 04/27/2015 05:59

Gowi wrote:

I thought similarly about ten years ago, too, by the way.

Fair enough.