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Re: Dont Let Everything Now Get Into The Top 10

Daydreamer — Thu, 17 Aug 2017 09:23:32 GMT

Author: Daydreamer

Posted: 08/17/2017 13:23

babyBlueSedan wrote:

I'm not saying you can never change your opinion on as album. I hated The Glow Pt 2 for a long time but recently relistened to it and ended up spinning it on repeat because it's so good. Now it's going to be on my chart when I next update it. And sure, I give most albums a 65 or 70 on first listen and then they go up or down as I get to know them better. But i don't see why that initial 65 or 70 isn't enough to describe your feelings on the album. Opinions change, there's no such thing as a final opinion.

My main problem is with people saying listening to a bunch of new albums is the wrong way to listen to music. Not everyone might enjoy it but I think the more albums you listen to the greater the chance you'll find one you'll love. I definitely would have missed out on some of my favorites if I hadn't gone on some Spotify binges.

I'm not saying you shouldn't listen to a bunch of new albums. I do it all the time. But I'd kinda feel guilty if I rated it on the first listen, before I explored their depths.

Re: Dont Let Everything Now Get Into The Top 10

babyBlueSedan — Thu, 17 Aug 2017 08:37:47 GMT

Author: babyBlueSedan

Posted: 08/17/2017 12:37

I'm not saying you can never change your opinion on as album. I hated The Glow Pt 2 for a long time but recently relistened to it and ended up spinning it on repeat because it's so good. Now it's going to be on my chart when I next update it. And sure, I give most albums a 65 or 70 on first listen and then they go up or down as I get to know them better. But i don't see why that initial 65 or 70 isn't enough to describe your feelings on the album. Opinions change, there's no such thing as a final opinion.

My main problem is with people saying listening to a bunch of new albums is the wrong way to listen to music. Not everyone might enjoy it but I think the more albums you listen to the greater the chance you'll find one you'll love. I definitely would have missed out on some of my favorites if I hadn't gone on some Spotify binges.

Re: Dont Let Everything Now Get Into The Top 10

Tha1ChiefRocka — Thu, 17 Aug 2017 02:22:15 GMT

Author: Tha1ChiefRocka

Posted: 08/17/2017 06:22

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Re: Dont Let Everything Now Get Into The Top 10

Komorebi-D — Wed, 16 Aug 2017 23:57:54 GMT

Author: Komorebi-D

Posted: 08/17/2017 03:57

sethmadsen wrote:

I had low opinions of them, but have since fallen in love:

Modern Vampires Of The City by Vampire Weekend

Yeah. For like the third time now, I agree with this one especially.

But the difference between Everything Now and that or Reflektor is the quality in the songwriting. At first the weak songwriting seems like they are making a satire of themselves and their fans' reaction to Reflektor but then you realise that it just plainly falls flat. It honestly feels like they gave up not even a third of the way through the album.

Don't believe me? Then just listen to "Peter Pan" - "We Don't Deserve Love". Even the instrumentals are lethargic.

Re: Dont Let Everything Now Get Into The Top 10

RoundTheBend — Wed, 16 Aug 2017 22:46:53 GMT

Author: RoundTheBend

Posted: 08/17/2017 02:46

Luigii wrote:

It's now in the top 10.
Whoa!

This was just a reverse psychology lesson by The1ChiefRocka (spelling?).
Anyway, on the subject of listening/getting to know an album, it's pretty rare I change my opinion on an album after the first listen - I mean it grows, but I usually know something will grow on me or not. But when I do, it usually is a total landslide victory and change it to my most favorite album.

These two albums have done this kind of recently - I had low opinions of them, but have since fallen in love:

Born To Die by Lana Del Rey

Modern Vampires Of The City by Vampire Weekend

Re: Dont Let Everything Now Get Into The Top 10

stangetzaway — Wed, 16 Aug 2017 20:40:30 GMT

Author: stangetzaway

Posted: 08/17/2017 00:40

Don't stop there kids shoehorn into the all time top 100 with the rest of their mediocre albums.

Re: Dont Let Everything Now Get Into The Top 10

Luigii — Wed, 16 Aug 2017 20:16:30 GMT

Author: Luigii

Posted: 08/17/2017 00:16

It's now in the top 10.
Whoa!

Re: Dont Let Everything Now Get Into The Top 10

craola — Wed, 16 Aug 2017 19:33:26 GMT

Author: craola

Posted: 08/16/2017 23:33

Daydreamer wrote:

babyBlueSedan wrote:

I don't see anything wrong with forming an opinion halfway through an album. At that point you should at least be able to say whether you're enjoying it or not. And if someone listens to an album once and decides not to come back to it, then that's fine too. Why waste time trying to like an album when there's such a huge world of music out there to be discovered? Or when you have favorites that you could spend time relistening to? I don't think you have to be able to identify every song on an album and know most of the words to give a well though out opinion on it.

That's okay when the album is either extremely bad or extremely good, but most albums on the first listen sound okay-ish (depending on the genre0. And experience thaught me that lots of good albums don't hit you on the first listen but need more time.

this is true. it's also been my experience that no matter how hard i try, my biases about an album are in full swing on a full listen, and it can take months for me to get over preconceived notions about an artist (whether to appreciate or abhor some album).

for instance, i had grimes pinned down as a witchhouse/chillwave/dreampopper, so when i first heard ART ANGELS, i was appalled. i couldn't even listen to her older works. i couldn't understand how she'd departed so far from the direction i thought she was headed. i listened to the album a second time months later, and i still hated it. more months pass, and i listen knowing full well what i am getting myself into and forgiving her for not being the grimes i wanted. and you know what? it's my favorite grimes record. it's even in my top-100 albums. but i had some prejudice about her, i guess.

alternately, i used to be a huge modest mouse fan. i remember on my first listen to "we were dead..." being blown away because it was modest mouse. it sounded like modest mouse too. but you know, with each listen, it sounded more and more mediocre. my bias towards all things modest mouse gave the album an appeal that didn't last.

i've never been a perfume genius fan, and i didn't like his new album on first listen cause he's perfume genius, an artist that always leaves me unimpressed. i was listening out of obligation, not want. i thought, yay more meh. listened again to determine chart position on my 2017, but by-gone-it, this is a great record. it gets better every listen.

etc. this goes on and on and you've all experienced it.

hi mom.

Re: Dont Let Everything Now Get Into The Top 10

Daydreamer — Wed, 16 Aug 2017 19:01:15 GMT

Author: Daydreamer

Posted: 08/16/2017 23:01

babyBlueSedan wrote:

Re: Dont Let Everything Now Get Into The Top 10

babyBlueSedan — Wed, 16 Aug 2017 18:44:59 GMT

Author: babyBlueSedan

Posted: 08/16/2017 22:44

I don't see anything wrong with forming an opinion halfway through an album. At that point you should at least be able to say whether you're enjoying it or not. And if someone listens to an album once and decides not to come back to it, then that's fine too. Why waste time trying to like an album when there's such a huge world of music out there to be discovered? Or when you have favorites that you could spend time relistening to? I don't think you have to be able to identify every song on an album and know most of the words to give a well though out opinion on it.

And I often wonder if there's an album I'd love if I had given it another listen or two. But I've found hundreds of albums I enjoy so part of me thinks that one more album I love wouldn't make me much happier.

If Everything Now is in the top 10 that's really just a sign that more people added it to their charts, since there's no way to knock albums down the list. And it doesn't bother me - if people enjoy the album then let them. If you don't, don't bother listening to it.

Re: Dont Let Everything Now Get Into The Top 10

Daydreamer — Wed, 16 Aug 2017 16:52:24 GMT

Author: Daydreamer

Posted: 08/16/2017 20:52

I think I need at listen 5-10 listens before I form a first opinion and then after couple dozen more listens the true opinion consilidates. Of course even that one changes slightly over time.

Re: Dont Let Everything Now Get Into The Top 10

RoundTheBend — Wed, 16 Aug 2017 16:15:36 GMT

Author: RoundTheBend

Posted: 08/16/2017 20:15

Graeme2 wrote:

Yep. I do it all the time and then on to the next. I wonder if part of the attraction of vinyl is the investment in that piece of work rather than the way tracks get consumed on spotify et al. A lot of my favourite albums have been ones that I didn't love straight off but if I'd bought the thing then I'm going to give it more of a chance. The albums I have in my 2010 overall have some with very few listens.

Truth.

Re: Dont Let Everything Now Get Into The Top 10

Graeme2 — Wed, 16 Aug 2017 16:06:13 GMT

Author: Graeme2

Posted: 08/16/2017 20:06

Daydreamer wrote:

Agreed, people form opinions literally halfway through the first listen, so their opinion is really superficial and empty.

Re: Dont Let Everything Now Get Into The Top 10

RoundTheBend — Wed, 16 Aug 2017 14:27:51 GMT

Author: RoundTheBend

Posted: 08/16/2017 18:27

Daydreamer wrote:

Agreed, people form opinions literally halfway through the first listen, so their opinion is really superficial and empty.

Sounds like me. 🫢

I just feel I have to sort too much chaff.

Re: Dont Let Everything Now Get Into The Top 10

RoundTheBend — Wed, 16 Aug 2017 14:25:48 GMT

Author: RoundTheBend

Posted: 08/16/2017 18:25

Tha1ChiefRocka wrote:

Its no big deal, I thought it would be interesting to bring up the fact that a poorly rated album can still rank so high on the site. I thought the tone of the post was jokey enough, but I guess I was wrong. I'm not telling anyone to change their opinions.

Makes sense. Same with Joshua Tree.

Also no worries, nobody is overly opinionated.

Re: Dont Let Everything Now Get Into The Top 10

Daydreamer — Wed, 16 Aug 2017 13:30:08 GMT

Author: Daydreamer

Posted: 08/16/2017 17:30

Gowi wrote:

Yeah, the “fast food” way people digest music in the digital age is definitely a concern. But it is what it is.

Agreed, people form opinions literally halfway through the first listen, so their opinion is really superficial and empty.

Re: Dont Let Everything Now Get Into The Top 10

Hayden — Wed, 16 Aug 2017 11:35:31 GMT

Author: Hayden

Posted: 08/16/2017 15:35

Romanelli wrote:

I'll get around to listening to it in maybe a year or three. There's no rush.

Probably don't even need to do that. Maybe give the title track a Youtube stream or something, but the album really is bland. I'll let you form your own opinion though... I'm shocked with how many people in Toronto are enjoying it. Some record stores are treating it like the holy grail.

Quote:

Yeah, the “fast food” way people digest music in the digital age is definitely a concern. But it is what it is.

And I'll agree. Can't point the blame at anything else but easy accessibility.

Also, as far as BEA goes, I'm more fond of our top 10 this year than most years. Haven't given the King Gizzard of Roger Waters albums a spin, but I enjoy the rest.

Re: Dont Let Everything Now Get Into The Top 10

Lastings — Wed, 16 Aug 2017 10:44:00 GMT

Author: Lastings

Posted: 08/16/2017 14:44

Gowi wrote:

Yeah, the “fast food” way people digest music in the digital age is definitely a concern. But it is what it is.

interesting coincidence that this statement pretty much sums up the overall theme of the album..

Re: Dont Let Everything Now Get Into The Top 10

mickilennial — Wed, 16 Aug 2017 08:47:02 GMT

Author: mickilennial

Posted: 08/16/2017 12:47

Yeah, the “fast food” way people digest music in the digital age is definitely a concern. But it is what it is.

Re: Dont Let Everything Now Get Into The Top 10

Romanelli — Wed, 16 Aug 2017 08:38:44 GMT

Author: Romanelli

Posted: 08/16/2017 12:38

I'll get around to listening to it in maybe a year or three. There's no rush.

I'm still not a great fan of albums released, immediately streamed a gazillion times on that day and shot to the top of peoples charts after a single day by people who then leave and never come back...personally, I believe that decisions are made way too early on new releases. But that's just me...do what you want. The overall chart is a nice reference, but it's not MY overall chart. And to me, that's the one that really counts.