Best Ever Albums

Re: Greatest Experimental Rock Songs?

JohnnyRocketFingers — Tue, 14 Apr 2009 18:00:52 GMT

Author: JohnnyRocketFingers

Posted: 04/14/2009 22:00

Very true indeed. I doubt there will ever be another band like the residents again.

Re: Greatest Experimental Rock Songs?

Mr.Music — Tue, 14 Apr 2009 15:39:52 GMT

Author: Mr.Music

Posted: 04/14/2009 19:39

JohnnyRocketFingers wrote:

Nice picks Mr. Music. Hurricane Fighter Plane maybe the single greatest experimental rock song. All your picks are great but in particular I really like Facelift, Frownland, Sister Ray, and Walrus Hunt.

This never happened in the greatest albums tournaments but i'd like to see the opinions and reasons why.

Eskimo Vs Not Available

Both fantastic. But for me i have to go with Not Available for two reasons.

1 - Ships A Going Down. This song is ridiculous. If there was a genre for "Hardcore Experimental" this would be the defining song. The musicianship on the entire album is amazing but especially on Ships a Going Down it is truly genius.

2 - This album is The Resident's most crazy, experimental, and most different than all their rest, and when you look at their catalogue and some of the crazy stuff they have made, an album would have to be genius and really really far out and to accomplish the task and that is what "Not Available is."

I prefer Eskimo myself but i enjoy Not Available also very much. Everytime i listen to Eskimo i get that icy feeling, the soundscapes are so real. Im hunting a walrus with the natives, doing what they are doing. Its so damn real album.

Re: Greatest Experimental Rock Songs?

NowhereMan — Tue, 14 Apr 2009 15:36:09 GMT

Author: NowhereMan

Posted: 04/14/2009 19:36

Some beatle's classics that I feel are experimental -

Rain
Because
I Feel Fine
I'm Only Sleeping

Re: Greatest Experimental Rock Songs?

Charicature — Tue, 14 Apr 2009 14:25:45 GMT

Author: Charicature

Posted: 04/14/2009 18:25

Bohemian Rhapsody - Queen

and though it was never called "experimental" it's definitely unique enough to fit the bill:
February - Jesus Jones

Re: Greatest Experimental Rock Songs?

JohnnyRocketFingers — Tue, 14 Apr 2009 13:32:05 GMT

Author: JohnnyRocketFingers

Posted: 04/14/2009 17:32

Nice picks Mr. Music. Hurricane Fighter Plane maybe the single greatest experimental rock song. All your picks are great but in particular I really like Facelift, Frownland, Sister Ray, and Walrus Hunt.

This never happened in the greatest albums tournaments but i'd like to see the opinions and reasons why.

Eskimo Vs Not Available

Both fantastic. But for me i have to go with Not Available for two reasons.

1 - Ships A Going Down. This song is ridiculous. If there was a genre for "Hardcore Experimental" this would be the defining song. The musicianship on the entire album is amazing but especially on Ships a Going Down it is truly genius.

2 - This album is The Resident's most crazy, experimental, and most different than all their rest, and when you look at their catalogue and some of the crazy stuff they have made, an album would have to be genius and really really far out and to accomplish the task and that is what "Not Available is."

Re: Greatest Experimental Rock Songs?

NowhereMan — Sun, 5 Apr 2009 09:24:53 GMT

Author: NowhereMan

Posted: 04/05/2009 13:24

The Way Young Lovers Do - Van Morrison

Re: Greatest Experimental Rock Songs?

Mr.Music — Sun, 5 Apr 2009 03:47:11 GMT

Author: Mr.Music

Posted: 04/05/2009 07:47

Frownland - Captain Beefheart
Hurricane Fighter Plane - Red Krayola
Sister Ray - VU
Halleluwah - Can
Monterey - Tim Buckley
I Hate You - The Monks
Dub Housing - Pere Ubu
Makeshift Swahili - This Heat
Walrus Hunt - The Residents
She Is Beyond Good And Evil - The Pop Group
War - Henry Cow
Soft Machine - Facelift

Re: Greatest Experimental Rock Songs?

NowhereMan — Sat, 4 Apr 2009 16:22:35 GMT

Author: NowhereMan

Posted: 04/04/2009 20:22

In my opinion, I feel most Beatle songs are experimental, I feel this because I am a bit of a 'Beatle Maniac' - I like collecting Outtakes and Bootlegs - and through these snippets I understand more how each song is special. 😄

Re: Greatest Experimental Rock Songs?

Detroit Rock Citizen — Sat, 4 Apr 2009 10:29:45 GMT

Author: Detroit Rock Citizen

Posted: 04/04/2009 14:29

JohnnyRocketFingers wrote:

Was that a joke?

I'll Loan a qtip if you need to clean your ears johnny 🙄

Re: Greatest Experimental Rock Songs?

RFNAPLES — Thu, 2 Apr 2009 18:48:55 GMT

Author: RFNAPLES

Posted: 04/02/2009 22:48

Recording of Strawberry Fields Forever began on November 24, 1966 and completed on December 9, 1966 but then was edited by Martin and Emerick. It was not released until February 13, 1967 which is why many use 1967 as its year.

Little Sister was written by Doc Pomus and Mort Shuman and first released as a single in 1961 by Elvis Presley, who turned it into a #5 hit on the Billboard Hot 100 and #1 in the UK. The song was later covered by Dwight Yoakam, Robert Plant, Ry Cooder and others. I didn’t consider Cochran’s song because it came out in 1958 and to less commercial success.

The Twist gave birth to the Twist dance craze. The song was written and originally released in 1959 by Hank Ballard and the Midnighters but was only a minor 1960 hit. The Twist song and dance were popularized in 1960 when the song was covered by Chubby Checker. His single reached #1 on the Billboard Hot 100 on September 19, 1960 and then set a record by being the only single to reach #1 in two different chart runs when it topped the chart again on January 13, 1962.

Like most progressive/experimental songs those I chose often had older generations scoffing.

Re: Greatest Experimental Rock Songs?

Midas — Thu, 2 Apr 2009 17:44:47 GMT

Author: Midas

Posted: 04/02/2009 21:44

"Strawberry Fields Forever" was recorded in 1966. Elvis was rock and roll and “Summertime Blues" (1958) Eddie Cochran is just as much a precedent to that song. I have to disagree with you and the only songs on your list are actually experimental rock are these songs. I don't mean to be harsh but the "Twist" and "Little Sister" experimental rock you must be joking.

The Beach Boys-Good Vibrations-1966
The Beatles-Strawberry Fields Forever-1967
The Rolling Stones-Sympathy for the Devil-1968
Led Zeppelin-Whole Lotta Love-1969

Re: Greatest Experimental Rock Songs?

RFNAPLES — Thu, 2 Apr 2009 17:32:48 GMT

Author: RFNAPLES

Posted: 04/02/2009 21:32

Progression tends to happen slowly in an evolutionary manner. There are not always complete or great differences with songs that preceded. The songs I listed were different from the norm and often had emulators and later became considered standard fare themselves.

Re: Greatest Experimental Rock Songs?

Midas — Thu, 2 Apr 2009 17:24:08 GMT

Author: Midas

Posted: 04/02/2009 21:24

RFNAPLES I agree with everything you have except these are not experimental rock songs. Experimental ROCK experiments with the basic elements of the genre, and/or which pushes the boundaries of common composition and performance technique. All of these songs are still basic songs in form and chord usage even if "Like a Rolling Stone" goes for six minutes it's still a simple blues folk rock song.

Re: Greatest Experimental Rock Songs?

RFNAPLES — Thu, 2 Apr 2009 15:15:08 GMT

Author: RFNAPLES

Posted: 04/02/2009 19:15

What I chose to list were progressive songs for each year of the 60s. I chose to include songs that took steps forward, improved, advanced, or developed rock of the day. Those songs made progress, new sounding music, in other words were progressive. They could have been the Greatest Experimental Rock Songs at the time!

Progressive Rock came in many shapes and sizes, but it can be loosely defined as music that attempts to combine rock and psychedelic with classical, symphonic, and literary elements. Progressive Rock has its origins in the British psychedelic scene of the late 60s. Inspired by the Beatles’ Sgt. Pepper, the first wave incorporated elements of European and classical music into rock. Progressive Rock expands the limits of rock & roll. It tends to be traditionally melodic, literary, and oriented toward classically trained instrumental technique.

Sometimes it is called Art Rock which is more likely to have experimental or avant-garde influences, placing novel sonic texture above Progressive Rock’s symphonic ambitions. Experimental Rock is tangentially related to Art Rock, yet it is more challenging, noisy and unconventional.

Also sometimes known as “classical rock”—bands playing suites, not songs; borrowing riffs from classical composers instead of the founders of rock n’ roll; using language closer to poets than to rhythm and blues artists. One should not be confused of course with all the related styles: Album Rock, Art-Rock/Experimental, Avant-Prog, Canterbury Scene, Experimental Rock, Kraut Rock, Neo-Prog, Noise-Rock, Obscuro, Post-Rock/Experimental, Progressive Metal, Prog-Rock/Art Rock, etc.

Re: Greatest Experimental Rock Songs?

telefunker — Thu, 2 Apr 2009 14:49:09 GMT

Author: telefunker

Posted: 04/02/2009 18:49

Pink Floyd - Us And Them
Animal Collective - Banshee Beat
Frank Zappa - Peaches en Regalia
King Crimson - I Talk To The Wind
TLC - No Scrubs
Sonic Youth - The Diamond Sea

Re: Greatest Experimental Rock Songs?

JohnnyRocketFingers — Thu, 2 Apr 2009 13:36:35 GMT

Author: JohnnyRocketFingers

Posted: 04/02/2009 17:36

Was that a joke?

Re: Greatest Experimental Rock Songs?

RFNAPLES — Thu, 2 Apr 2009 00:10:41 GMT

Author: RFNAPLES

Posted: 04/02/2009 04:10

Chubby Checker-The Twist-1960
Elvis Presley-Little Sister-1961
Booker T. & The MG's-Green Onions-1962
The Kingsmen-Louie Louie-1963
The Kinks-You Really Got Me-1964
Bob Dylan-Like a Rolling Stone-1965
The Beach Boys-Good Vibrations-1966
The Beatles-Strawberry Fields Forever-1967
The Rolling Stones-Sympathy for the Devil-1968
Led Zeppelin-Whole Lotta Love-1969

Re: Greatest Experimental Rock Songs?

JohnnyRocketFingers — Wed, 1 Apr 2009 20:51:49 GMT

Author: JohnnyRocketFingers

Posted: 04/02/2009 00:51

Red Crayola - Hurrican Fight Plane
Nico - My Only Child
The Residents - Ship's A'going Down
Slint - Good Morning Captain
Tortoise - Djed

Re: Greatest Experimental Rock Songs?

JohnnyRocketFingers — Wed, 1 Apr 2009 20:49:46 GMT

Author: JohnnyRocketFingers

Posted: 04/02/2009 00:49

Klaus Schulze - Satz Ebene
Velvet Underground - Sister Ray
Captain Beefheart - Moonlight On Vermont
Faust - Miss Fortune
Glenn Branca - The Ascension

Greatest Experimental Rock Songs?

Midas — Wed, 1 Apr 2009 16:21:09 GMT

Author: Midas

Posted: 04/01/2009 20:21

This is just a list of early Experimental Rock Songs from the mid to late 60's. Progressive Rock, Psychedelic rock, electronic, musique concrete, jazz fusion, and World Music influences are the basis of the list. It's in no order. I would welcome any other songs since this has been a topic on this forum. Any song recorded before 1970

King Crimson- In The Court Of The Crimson King-King Crimson-
King Crimson- Epitaph-King Crimson
King Crimson- 21st Century Schizoid Man
King Crimson- Talk to the Wind
Jimi Hendrix Experience- Voodoo Chile-
Jimi Hendrix Experience - Are You Experienced
Jimi Hendrix Experience- Third Stone From The Sun
Jimi Hendrix Experience- And The Gods Made Love
Frank Zappa- Who Are the Brain Police
Frank Zappa- The Return of the Son of Monster Magnet
Frank Zappa- Brown Shoes Don’t Make It
Frank Zappa - Peaches En Regalia
The Who- The Ox
The Who- Quick one while he's away
The Who- Armenia in the Sky
The Nice - The Diamond Hard Blue Apples Of The Moon
The Nice - America 1968
The Nice- Rondo
The Byrds “Eight Miles High”
The Byrds "Mind Garden"
The Silver Apples- Oscillations
The Silver Apples - Ruby
The Beach Boys- Good Vibrations
GENESIS - In the Beginning
GENESIS - The Serpent
The Beatles- Tomorrow Never Knows”
The Beatles - A Day in the Life”
The Beatles- Within You Without You
The Beatles- Revolution 9
The Yardbirds- Still Im Sad”
The Yardbirds- Over Under Sideways Down
Pink Floyd- A Saucerful of Secrets
Pink Floyd- Interstellar Overdrive
Pink Floyd- Astromony Domine
Pink Floyd- Set the Controls for the Heart of the Sun
Pink Floyd- Several Species of Small Furry Animals Gathered Together in a Cave and Grooving with a Pict
The Rolling Stones- Gomper
The Rolling Stones- 2,000 Light Years From Home
Giles, Giles & Fripp - Make it today
The Velvet Underground- Heroin
The Velvet Underground- Venus In Furs
The Velvet Underground- Sister Ray
Soft Machine- Moon In June
Soft Machine- Joy of a Toy
Steve Miller Band- The Beauty of Time Is That It's Snowing
The Monks - Shut Up
Renaissance - Kings and Queens
Colosseum - Valentyne Suite part 1
The Doors- The End
The Doors- Strange Days
The Doors- Crystal Ship
PROCOL HARUM- In Held 'Twas in I
Van Der Graaf Generator- Octopus
Van Der Graaf Generator- Afterwards
Red Crayola Hurricane- Fighter Plane
Red Crayola- Free Form Freakout
Captain Beefheart & His Magic Band- When Big Joan Sets Up
Jethro Tull- Dharma for One
Jethro Tull- "Bourée" (J. S. Bach arr. Jethro Tull
Tangerine Dream- Journey Through a Burning Brain
The Quintessence - Midnight Mode
Spirit- Mechanical World –
Spirit- Taurus
H.P. Lovecraft- At The Mountains of Madness
H.P. Lovecraft- Electrallentando
Tomorrow- My White Bicycle
Traffic- Paper Sun
Country Joe & The Fish- Section 43
The Incredible String Band- Creation
The United States of America- Cloud Song
Electric Prunes- 'To Much To Dream Last Night'
The Moody Blues- Nights in White Satan
The Moody Blues- Om
Donovan- Three Kingfishers
Paul Butterfield Blue Band- East-west"
The Pretty Things- "Defecting Grey
Jefferson Airplane- Two Heads"
Jefferson Airplane- Embryonic Journey
Jefferson Airplane- A Small Package of Value Will Come to You, Shortly
It's a Beautiful Day- White Bird"
Jeff Beck- Beck’ s Bolero
Led Zeppelin- Black Mountain Side
Led Zeppelin- How Many More Times
Cream- Toad
Cream- White Room
SAGITTARIUS-VIRGO
The Fourth Way - The far side of your moon