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Re: It's 2017... and we're still getting new Zeppelin clones

Daydreamer — Tue, 5 Dec 2017 16:44:08 GMT

Author: Daydreamer

Posted: 12/05/2017 21:44

Good music can be derivative and there's nothing wrong about that. But I agree with AAL2014, Greta Van Fleet really do no offer anything even remotely new and interesting, everything is a LZ ripoff.

Re: It's 2017... and we're still getting new Zeppelin clones

AAL2014 — Tue, 5 Dec 2017 16:10:52 GMT

Author: AAL2014

Posted: 12/05/2017 21:10

bobbyb5 wrote:

Since so little music is innovative and original. great records can be either original or derivative.

I don't know how much I agree with this part. I think there can be something innovative about everything that's out there (okay, maybe not all the time but more often than not) and that there isn't anything wrong with hearing elements of the respective artist's influences on an album. As music is just a reflection of life and life's influences.

Re: It's 2017... and we're still getting new Zeppelin clones

bobbyb5 — Tue, 5 Dec 2017 16:03:20 GMT

Author: bobbyb5

Posted: 12/05/2017 21:03

Tilly wrote:

AAL2014 wrote:

Tilly wrote:

AAL2014 wrote:

I tried saying Greta Van Fleet were rip offs a couple months ago here and got crucified.

What do u mean? I didn't know there was anyone beside me on the forums who even like Zeppelin. lol.

And I LOVE Wolfmother. Especially that first album, but the second's good too. They're GREAT live!

Yes, I saw Wolfmother at a festival a couple years ago and they were tight. Great first album. There's not a ton about them that screams Zeppelin to me though.

No, I agree. Just great hard rock.

Originality is great, but I learned a long time ago that imitators can also be great. If we only listened to music that was new and original and unique, we wouldn't have much to listen to. Since so little music is innovative and original. great records can be either original or derivative.

Re: It's 2017... and we're still getting new Zeppelin clones

AAL2014 — Tue, 5 Dec 2017 15:59:41 GMT

Author: AAL2014

Posted: 12/05/2017 20:59

Tilly wrote:

Well, it has been like 40 years since Zeppelin made an album. God knows how many bands sound like Sabbath. I always thought it was weird that there weren't MORE Zeppelin clones considering how much Sabbath still dominates so much of metal.

But the thing is, I've never heard such a blatant, bold face, fuck you to the idea of original music than Greta Van Fleet. They are essentially a Led Zeppelin dress up band that doesn't play any of their actual songs. Not even Airbourne sounded as close to AC/DC as Greta does to Zeppelin. I just wish that the rock bands that are becoming huge actually aided in the progress of popular music and were applauded for crafting their own sound, not recycling ideas from older, better bands. Anytime I hear anything about Greta on the radio or from fans around here, it has nothing to do with the quality of their music.. it's that "They sound EXACTLY like Zeppelin." That's sad to me.

There was a Zeppelin and they were great, nothing wrong with bands being influenced by them or any other artist, but to be damn near a xerox copy? Nope.

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I agree big time with what Anthony Fantano has to say here.

"At what point does a band just sound too much like another band for people to kind of get on board? I'm not really sure, I don't think there is a definitive answer to that question. I know there's a particular line for me, and in my opinion Greta Van Fleet crosses it. They cross it really hard. Really unashamedly. They're like back-flipping over the line."

Re: It's 2017... and we're still getting new Zeppelin clones

Repo — Tue, 5 Dec 2017 15:47:08 GMT

Author: Repo

Posted: 12/05/2017 20:47

AAL2014 wrote:

Tilly wrote:

AAL2014 wrote:

I tried saying Greta Van Fleet were rip offs a couple months ago here and got crucified.

What do u mean? I didn't know there was anyone beside me on the forums who even like Zeppelin. lol.

And I LOVE Wolfmother. Especially that first album, but the second's good too. They're GREAT live!

Yes, I saw Wolfmother at a festival a couple years ago and they were tight. Great first album. There's not a ton about them that screams Zeppelin to me though.

No, I agree. Just great hard rock.

Re: It's 2017... and we're still getting new Zeppelin clones

AAL2014 — Tue, 5 Dec 2017 15:44:25 GMT

Author: AAL2014

Posted: 12/05/2017 20:44

Tilly wrote:

AAL2014 wrote:

I tried saying Greta Van Fleet were rip offs a couple months ago here and got crucified.

What do u mean? I didn't know there was anyone beside me on the forums who even like Zeppelin. lol.

And I LOVE Wolfmother. Especially that first album, but the second's good too. They're GREAT live!

Yes, I saw Wolfmother at a festival a couple years ago and they were tight. Great first album. There's not a ton about them that screams Zeppelin to me though.

Re: It's 2017... and we're still getting new Zeppelin clones

Repo — Tue, 5 Dec 2017 15:43:10 GMT

Author: Repo

Posted: 12/05/2017 20:43

AAL2014 wrote:

Wolfmother might sound a bit like Zeppelin especially in the vocal department, but they are not a clone. Greta Van Fleet is literally a clone from the writing, vocals, production, lyrics, the movements the singer makes on stage. It's a shame that the biggest young band in America right now doesn't sound like anything new. People want the same recycled garbage.

Re: It's 2017... and we're still getting new Zeppelin clones

Repo — Tue, 5 Dec 2017 15:40:43 GMT

Author: Repo

Posted: 12/05/2017 20:40

AAL2014 wrote:

I tried saying Greta Van Fleet were rip offs a couple months ago here and got crucified.

What do u mean? I didn't know there was anyone beside me on the forums who even like Zeppelin. lol.

And I LOVE Wolfmother. Especially that first album, but the second's good too. They're GREAT live!

Re: It's 2017... and we're still getting new Zeppelin clones

AAL2014 — Tue, 5 Dec 2017 15:31:42 GMT

Author: AAL2014

Posted: 12/05/2017 20:31

Wolfmother might sound a bit like Zeppelin especially in the vocal department, but they are not a clone. Greta Van Fleet is literally a clone from the writing, vocals, production, lyrics, the movements the singer makes on stage. It's a shame that the biggest young band in America right now doesn't sound like anything new. People want the same recycled garbage.

Re: It's 2017... and we're still getting new Zeppelin clones

AAL2014 — Tue, 5 Dec 2017 15:28:50 GMT

Author: AAL2014

Posted: 12/05/2017 20:28

I tried saying Greta Van Fleet were rip offs a couple months ago here and got crucified.

How dare they be a less interesting and (obviously) innovative Led Zeppelin and have $200+ concert tickets. They aren't even that good.

Re: It's 2017... and we're still getting new Zeppelin clones

911Turbo — Tue, 5 Dec 2017 14:50:38 GMT

Author: 911Turbo

Posted: 12/05/2017 19:50

Fischman wrote:

Maybe the most blatant of all: Greta Van Fleet

Ironic that the band famous for ripping off others has had their sound ripped off so much through the years. But sometimes it works pretty well.

Greta Van Fleet, Kingdom Come, Wolfmother, Collision, or other--anybody got a Zep clone they like?

are they zeppelin "clones" based on musical talent or appearance?

Re: It's 2017... and we're still getting new Zeppelin clones

bobbyb5 — Tue, 5 Dec 2017 08:27:27 GMT

Author: bobbyb5

Posted: 12/05/2017 13:27

To be honest, the Led Zep imitators of yesteryear were a lot better than the new ones. If nothing else, they were a lot more amusing and a lot more fun. Tell me these ones aren't better than the new Led Zeppelin imitators.

Everybody Wants You...Billy Squier
Rock and Roll Hoochie Koo... Rick Derringer
Barracuda...Heart

Re: It's 2017... and we're still getting new Zeppelin clones

PurpleHazel — Mon, 4 Dec 2017 23:18:07 GMT

Author: PurpleHazel

Posted: 12/05/2017 04:18

"Like" might be a little strong, but: The Cult

It's 2017... and we're still getting new Zeppelin clones

Fischman — Mon, 4 Dec 2017 23:04:26 GMT

Author: Fischman

Posted: 12/05/2017 04:04

Maybe the most blatant of all: Greta Van Fleet

Ironic that the band famous for ripping off others has had their sound ripped off so much through the years. But sometimes it works pretty well.

Link

Greta Van Fleet, Kingdom Come, Wolfmother, Collision, or other--anybody got a Zep clone they like?