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Re: I Can't Tell If This Article is Serious Or Not

YoungPunk — Sat, 14 Apr 2018 14:49:05 GMT

Author: YoungPunk

Posted: 04/14/2018 18:49

@bobby

hear hear!

Re: I Can't Tell If This Article is Serious Or Not

bobbyb5 — Sat, 14 Apr 2018 14:16:36 GMT

Author: bobbyb5

Posted: 04/14/2018 18:16

Well, since the author wasn't really saying if he agreed if these songs were offensive, then it's not so bad. He wasn't really saying that he personally thinks their offensive. Just that other people do. Most of them were not even a little bit offensive. I only found about one or two of those songs offencive, and not really offensive but more like shithead-ish. I think politically correct people don't realize that most people aren't that easily offended. Just because they themselves are, they think everybody must be. Most people have a much better sense of humor about themselves. Like my mother used to say, people who are easily offended aren't offended often enough. I would have to agree with that I think.[/u]

Re: I Can't Tell If This Article is Serious Or Not

YoungPunk — Fri, 13 Apr 2018 20:39:40 GMT

Author: YoungPunk

Posted: 04/14/2018 00:39

Kendrick can say anything and the media will praise it... facts...

Re: I Can't Tell If This Article is Serious Or Not

RichardSauce — Fri, 13 Apr 2018 20:14:06 GMT

Author: RichardSauce

Posted: 04/14/2018 00:14

I don't agree with all of them necessarily, but with the article's premise being "This shit wouldn't fly today," then yeah, most of these songs would face backlash, whether they were well intentioned like Ebony and Ivory, just having fun like Kung Fu Fighting, or just clueless and insensitive which covers most of the rest.

There are a lot of things, slurs, crass cultural appropriation, bigotry, rape/statutory, that were a lot less permissible today than they were thirty or more years ago, and we're more sensitive even with less serious transgressions. Hell, it's probably worth noting that some of these had at least some blow back at the time, particularly Band Aid, which was always seen as crass.

Personally I would take off Walk on the Wild Side and Ebony and Ivory at least, neither of which really cross any lines, and the latter of which is probably our best attempt at a "increase the peace" message towards race relations. Seriously, it's a thankless job, even the best one's just come off as lame or tone deaf, no matter how well meaning the poor saps who step on that landmine are....anyone remember Brad Paisley's "accidental racist" fiasco from earlier this decade?

I'm surprised they left out Run for Your Life by the Beatles....or In the Summertime by Mungo Jerry, both of those are pretty easy targets.

Re: I Can't Tell If This Article is Serious Or Not

indieshins — Fri, 13 Apr 2018 19:10:05 GMT

Author: indieshins

Posted: 04/13/2018 23:10

Some of these are hilarious - Walk on the Wild Side is fine, Money for Nothing is almost definitely satire (he's playing a character), Turning Japanese I haven't heard, but the thing about "assuming identity" was cringey. It really doesn't seem like a terrible lyric.

I've always thought Brown Sugar was a bit iffy. Heard it once, thought it was a fun song, then looked up the lyrics. I'm still inclined to not let that ruin my enjoyment of it, but I agree its a fair point.

Re: I Can't Tell If This Article is Serious Or Not

Boltzmann — Fri, 13 Apr 2018 17:59:13 GMT

Author: Boltzmann

Posted: 04/13/2018 21:59

PurpleHazel wrote:

LOL at the "Ebony and Ivory" entry. They're not even claiming it's politically incorrect, just "naive." Hell, that could probably apply to a ton of social message music from the 60s and 70s.

"You're Having My Baby" is worse than some of these (also just hilarious).

Right? They’re basically saying it wouldn’t be relevant today, like no shit, Einstein’s relativity theory wouldn’t either 🤣

Re: I Can't Tell If This Article is Serious Or Not

Boltzmann — Fri, 13 Apr 2018 17:55:44 GMT

Author: Boltzmann

Posted: 04/13/2018 21:55

Tha1ChiefRocka wrote:

I'm not offended at all. It's more the fact that this article gets the meaning of the lyrics wrong on occasion, and is poorly written. People can write whatever they want, but it's not above criticism, which is what I want to discuss. I understand that stuff like this happens all the time, but for media to publish articles that attack the content of past art (even if it's Kung Fu Fighting) shows a very strange trend to me.

See this article as well, which was a more interesting way to go about this.

https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesig...nversation

Just saying: you’re only making his/her article more well-known with this post. If you would personally tell the writer what is wrong about his article, I would probably back you up.
“Very strange trend”, very predictable trend I would say: The anti-PC police can feast and awkward conversations like these spark up. Exactly what the media wants: unnecessary and meaningless conflicts.

Re: I Can't Tell If This Article is Serious Or Not

PurpleHazel — Fri, 13 Apr 2018 17:48:24 GMT

Author: PurpleHazel

Posted: 04/13/2018 21:48

LOL at the "Ebony and Ivory" entry. They're not even claiming it's politically incorrect, just "naive." Hell, that could probably apply to a ton of social message music from the 60s and 70s.

"You're Having My Baby" is worse than some of these (also just hilarious).

Re: I Can't Tell If This Article is Serious Or Not

Tha1ChiefRocka — Fri, 13 Apr 2018 16:59:20 GMT

Author: Tha1ChiefRocka

Posted: 04/13/2018 20:59

antaiospiano wrote:

A lot of these lyrics are actually really dumb though, some of them, like “Ebony and Ivory”, I don’t see anything wrong with them. Anyway, I wouldn’t take any article that lists things too seriously, like Kanye says: “n****s be writing bullshit, like they gotta work”. You’re giving them exactly the response they’re hoping for. Also, don’t you see the irony in that you’re offended by an article, because they claim to be offended by something you’re not offended by?

Re: I Can't Tell If This Article is Serious Or Not

Boltzmann — Fri, 13 Apr 2018 16:45:12 GMT

Author: Boltzmann

Posted: 04/13/2018 20:45

A lot of these lyrics are actually really dumb though, some of them, like “Ebony and Ivory”, I don’t see anything wrong with them. Anyway, I wouldn’t take any article that lists things too seriously, like Kanye says: “n****s be writing bullshit, like they gotta work”. You’re giving them exactly the response they’re hoping for. Also, don’t you see the irony in that you’re offended by an article, because they claim to be offended by something you’re not offended by?

Re: I Can't Tell If This Article is Serious Or Not

YoungPunk — Fri, 13 Apr 2018 16:20:38 GMT

Author: YoungPunk

Posted: 04/13/2018 20:20

I'm betting they're actually serious. The PC police are really dumb....

I Can't Tell If This Article is Serious Or Not

Tha1ChiefRocka — Fri, 13 Apr 2018 00:56:26 GMT

Author: Tha1ChiefRocka

Posted: 04/13/2018 04:56

I really want this article to be satirical, but it's not on The Onion, sooooo...

https://www.usatoday.com/story/life/mus...465246002/

(Actually a good point about Brown Sugar though, that song is pretty weird).