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Re: Best Visuals (Color) in Film History

AfterHours — Sat, 1 Sep 2018 14:40:16 GMT

Author: AfterHours

Posted: 09/01/2018 18:40

bobbyb5 wrote:

Do you like Technicolor? I love the way it looks, especially the weird way it looks so artificial even though it was probably meant to make movies look more lifelike. It actually looks BETTER than real life. LMAO.. The trouble is, I think it was mostly used in the 1950s, when most movies weren't all that great. But there's a lot of good westerns and big epics that look really good in Technicolor that they made in the 50s and 60s. Even those soap opera type movies that were big in the 50s look really good because of the Technicolor.

Absolutely, this list features the greatest examples of such (with still more to be added when I decide upon ranking).

Such as:

Vertigo - Alfred Hitchcock (1958)
Once Upon a Time in the West - Sergio Leone (1968)
Rear Window - Alfred Hitchcock (1954)
Peeping Tom - Michael Powell (1960)
The Red Shoes - Michael Powell (1948)
Black Narcissus - Michael Powell (1947)
The Birds - Alfred Hitchcock (1963)
Marnie - Alfred Hitchcock (1964)

Re: Best Visuals (Color) in Film History

bobbyb5 — Sat, 1 Sep 2018 03:50:19 GMT

Author: bobbyb5

Posted: 09/01/2018 07:50

Do you like Technicolor? I love the way it looks, especially the weird way it looks so artificial even though it was probably meant to make movies look more lifelike. It actually looks BETTER than real life. LMAO.. The trouble is, I think it was mostly used in the 1950s, when most movies weren't all that great. But there's a lot of good westerns and big epics that look really good in Technicolor that they made in the 50s and 60s. Even those soap opera type movies that were big in the 50s look really good because of the Technicolor.

Re: Best Visuals (Color) in Film History

AfterHours — Mon, 27 Aug 2018 20:12:53 GMT

Author: AfterHours

Posted: 08/28/2018 00:12

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Re: Best Visuals (Color) in Film History

AfterHours — Thu, 17 Aug 2017 15:39:11 GMT

Author: AfterHours

Posted: 08/17/2017 19:39

bobbyb5 wrote:

Besides the way it looks like beautiful paintings, there's other things I love about it. It's hard to say what it is exactly. Something to do with the passing of time. Didn't you ever get that feeling at certain movies that you actually passed the time with the characters? I don't know. I can't explain it. Probably has to do with the way it was so slow. Time passed so slowly, the people move so slowly, everything moves so slowly in it, and that's probably what gave me the feeling of passing time. Nashville is another one like that for me. After it was over I had the feeling that I had actually passed the time running from place to place around Nashville just like the characters did. Or something like that. hard to explain.

Thank you, there are films with a much more moving and/or compelling element of "the passage of time" than Barry Lyndon. But it's possible there's something more to it that I've missed. I'm sure I will revisit it one of these days.

Re: Best Visuals (Color) in Film History

AfterHours — Thu, 17 Aug 2017 12:24:25 GMT

Author: AfterHours

Posted: 08/17/2017 16:24

Tha1ChiefRocka wrote:

I know you're in the middle of revising, but here are some of my suggestions;

Dark City (this is probably more light than color, but I love this ridiculous movie)
Suspiria
Traffic
Pi (would you consider one of the high contrast black and white movies like this?)

and my favorite from last year.

The Love Witch

Link

Re: Dark City ... I've considered this one before, thank you for the reminder. It doesn't matter if it's more light than color. All visual aspects of the film are considered for inclusion. This is just the list that is for films that are in Color (or predominantly so) and not Black & White.

Re: Suspiria ... Among the most likely inclusions that aren't already on here. Probably will get in, even if I don't extend the list. I just need to revisit it.

Re: Traffic ... Excellent film, but I'm not sure what is particularly extraordinary visually about it. There's nothing bad with the visuals either, but I don't recall it standing out any more than various Alejandro González Iñárritu films, Michael Mann films, and so forth. They're more about hyper-in-your-face-pseudo-doc-realism than a particularly strong bent towards visual artistry.

Re: Pi ... Not qualified for this list but otherwise I agree with you that it is a great choice. It is already on my B & W list, here: https://www.besteveralbums.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=15606

Re: The Love Witch ...Thank you for the rec, haven't seen it 😄

Re: Best Visuals (Color) in Film History

Tha1ChiefRocka — Thu, 17 Aug 2017 11:13:41 GMT

Author: Tha1ChiefRocka

Posted: 08/17/2017 15:13

I know you're in the middle of revising, but here are some of my suggestions;

Dark City (this is probably more light than color, but I love this ridiculous movie)
Suspiria
Traffic
Pi (would you consider one of the high contrast black and white movies like this?)

and my favorite from last year.

The Love Witch

Link

Re: Best Visuals (Color) in Film History

AfterHours — Tue, 15 Aug 2017 20:57:30 GMT

Author: AfterHours

Posted: 08/16/2017 00:57

Starting to get around to revising this now. Vertigo and Brazil rankings have been upgraded.

Re: Best Visuals (Color) in Film History

bobbyb5 — Fri, 14 Jul 2017 02:28:43 GMT

Author: bobbyb5

Posted: 07/14/2017 06:28

AfterHours wrote:

Lyndon is excellent visually, though I wonder if there is more purpose to the shots than painterly expression of history? Maybe this would be more significant to me upon a revisit. Many people do consider it a great film. I'm mixed about it.

Re: Best Visuals (Color) in Film History

AfterHours — Tue, 11 Jul 2017 16:51:32 GMT

Author: AfterHours

Posted: 07/11/2017 20:51

bobbyb5 wrote:

Is Barry Lyndon consideried a great film? Is it ever on greatest lists or anything? Or is this just a case of something that i like personally? I love the visuals in it. They're just so enjoyable. And theres one scene in particular that just HAS to be considered great directing. Its when he walks a little boy into a room full of people and the boy is wearing these big shoes and hes got this dumb grin on his face, and the shoes keep making this loud loud loud noise and it just goes on forever and you start laughing because of how long it goes on. It's just awesome.

Re: Best Visuals (Color) in Film History

AfterHours — Tue, 11 Jul 2017 16:27:11 GMT

Author: AfterHours

Posted: 07/11/2017 20:27

bobbyb5 wrote:

I know you're gonna hate me, but Marnie is unbelievably shoddy. Everything from the story to the dialogue to the sets to the actors. I heard somebody say this is intentional. But it seems not too likely. I think its because of a lack of funds or a lack of time. UNLESS you're talking about that awesome thing when she's robbing the safe and you look down the hallway and there's also like a cleaning lady or something in the next room and you watch both of them at the same time. That is fuckin awesome.

Hitchcock's best films, Marnie included, are simultaneously representative of the characters states of mind and the director's meticulous attention to working everything out in a paranoid obsession with details and perfect form (like he, through the execution of the film, is pulling off the perfect crime). Also, several other obsessions of Hitchcock often slyly find their way interjected into the method of camera work/how he is shooting & editing the scenes, and the way he shoots certain characters (particularly his female leads). Marnie is no exception. What might appear clumsy is actually much more psychologically compelling if one realizes all these aspects are occurring plus Connery is a surrogate for Hitchcock, acting out his fantasies vicariously. There are many layers to the film.

Re: Best Visuals (Color) in Film History

bobbyb5 — Tue, 11 Jul 2017 15:56:48 GMT

Author: bobbyb5

Posted: 07/11/2017 19:56

Is Barry Lyndon consideried a great film? Is it ever on greatest lists or anything? Or is this just a case of something that i like personally? I love the visuals in it. They're just so enjoyable. And theres one scene in particular that just HAS to be considered great directing. Its when he walks a little boy into a room full of people and the boy is wearing these big shoes and hes got this dumb grin on his face, and the shoes keep making this loud loud loud noise and it just goes on forever and you start laughing because of how long it goes on. It's just awesome.

Re: Best Visuals (Color) in Film History

bobbyb5 — Tue, 11 Jul 2017 15:35:51 GMT

Author: bobbyb5

Posted: 07/11/2017 19:35

I know you're gonna hate me, but Marnie is unbelievably shoddy. Everything from the story to the dialogue to the sets to the actors. I heard somebody say this is intentional. But it seems not too likely. I think its because of a lack of funds or a lack of time. UNLESS you're talking about that awesome thing when she's robbing the safe and you look down the hallway and there's also like a cleaning lady or something in the next room and you watch both of them at the same time. That is fuckin awesome.

Re: Best Visuals (Color) in Film History

AfterHours — Tue, 11 Jul 2017 02:43:09 GMT

Author: AfterHours

Posted: 07/11/2017 06:43

Norman Bates wrote:

AfterHours wrote:

Norman Bates wrote:

AfterHours wrote:

The City of Lost Children - Jean-Pierre Jeunet (1995)
Delicatessen - Jean-Pierre Jeunet (1995)

You must be kidding. The quasi-steampunk 'alternate occupied France' sepia melancholy had grown old within 2 minutes and a half of each of these movies. These movies are quite simply awful and the colours are utterly disgusting. I don't like Amelie either, but for different reasons so I'll give you the colours if you really like them in there.

Yes, I'm kidding. I'm very disorganized and not too meticulous about my ratings/rankings, sorry for my incompetence :^o

It, of course, is not about incompetence. It is about discarding Nazi-occupied France as a possible item of nostalgia or accepting it as a legitimate cause for regret about life in those days. The colour does participate a lot to the feel though so I guess you were not joking and will apologize if I hurt your feelings.

No worries at all, I was being facetious. My feelings were not hurt in the least and I'm glad you do appreciate the Jeunet works to the degree that you do.

Re: Best Visuals (Color) in Film History

AfterHours — Tue, 11 Jul 2017 02:40:12 GMT

Author: AfterHours

Posted: 07/11/2017 06:40

bobbyb5 wrote:

AfterHours wrote:

bobbyb5 wrote:

Wizard of Oz
Medea ( the one from the 60s with Maria Callas)
Oedipus Rex ( the one from the sixties also, by Pasolini also))
All Those Technicolor Ones starring people like Dorothy Malone and Lana Turner and they were like soap operas that took place in their gorgeous modern living rooms where everything had such vivid colors)
East of Eden
Black Narcissus
All the Bernardo Bertolucci ones in the 70s

Keep in mind it's a top 50 and for every new entry there would have to be one removed (unless it is extended past 50). Also keep in mind that creativity is very important to me, so I would not necessarily be interested in including several examples of outstanding visuals that were more or less repetitions of themselves (such as "all the technicolor ones"). Maybe a few of the most superior renditions, but after that they begin to stand out less and less and these get progressively less interesting the more they are repeated especially against such brilliant technicolor examples as that of Red Shoes, or Black Narcissus or Vertigo or Marnie or Kurosawa's Ran (was that one "technicolor"? 🤔 )

Black Narcissus is already on there, Bertolucci's Conformist is on there, ranked very highly too. Not sure if I'd included any of his other 70s in a top 50 (which is quite exclusive), but I do need to see Spider's Strategem.

Never seen that Medea in full, though the excerpts I've watched were promising.

East of Eden needs a re-watch...

Oh. Okay. Forget the Bertolucci's. And the living room dramas.But leave Wizard of Oz.
If you never saw Medea or Oedipus Rex, you don't know what you're missing. You know how people always say something is a one-of-a-kind film but it never really is? Well, these ARE one-of-a-kind films. If you see them, you'll know exactly what I mean. Theyre awesome.

Thank you I'll look into those.

Wizard of Oz was on here a couple years ago, but replaced by other entries. Still worthy of strong consideration, though its lack of cinematography/camera work (aside from just basic presentation of the scenes) might be too much to overcome for this echelon of quality (but probably would make a top 100 if/when I extend it)

Re: Best Visuals (Color) in Film History

Norman Bates — Tue, 11 Jul 2017 02:39:02 GMT

Author: Norman Bates

Posted: 07/11/2017 06:39

AfterHours wrote:

Norman Bates wrote:

AfterHours wrote:

The City of Lost Children - Jean-Pierre Jeunet (1995)
Delicatessen - Jean-Pierre Jeunet (1995)

Yes, I'm kidding. I'm very disorganized and not too meticulous about my ratings/rankings, sorry for my incompetence :^o

Re: Best Visuals (Color) in Film History

bobbyb5 — Mon, 10 Jul 2017 20:52:24 GMT

Author: bobbyb5

Posted: 07/11/2017 00:52

AfterHours wrote:

Norman Bates wrote:

bobbyb5 wrote:

Yes to these, and Fellini's Satyricon (quoted by somebody else).

East of Eden is awful, would be in black and white, and color changes nothing. May I submit, if you're into Dean, Rebel Without a Cause (or half a dozen Nick Ray movies for that matter, not least of all Johnny Guitar) + Lang's Rancho Notorious and Indian Tomb/Tiger of Eschnapur diptych.

Satyricon is already there (in the top 10). Don't think the others would make my top 50, though I can understand wanting to include them. Also, I'll probably eventually extend it to 100 (maybe more) so that might change things.

To be honest, i really dont remember what the outside scenes looked like in East of Eden. But I remember being impressed by the inside of Jo Van Fleet's house and the father's house also. I really don't know why now. Maybe I'm remembering it wrong.

Re: Best Visuals (Color) in Film History

bobbyb5 — Mon, 10 Jul 2017 20:16:32 GMT

Author: bobbyb5

Posted: 07/11/2017 00:16

AfterHours wrote:

bobbyb5 wrote:

Re: Best Visuals (Color) in Film History

AfterHours — Mon, 10 Jul 2017 20:13:32 GMT

Author: AfterHours

Posted: 07/11/2017 00:13

Norman Bates wrote:

AfterHours wrote:

The City of Lost Children - Jean-Pierre Jeunet (1995)
Delicatessen - Jean-Pierre Jeunet (1995)

Yes, I'm kidding. I'm very disorganized and not too meticulous about my ratings/rankings, sorry for my incompetence 🤥

Re: Best Visuals (Color) in Film History

AfterHours — Mon, 10 Jul 2017 20:08:23 GMT

Author: AfterHours

Posted: 07/11/2017 00:08

Norman Bates wrote:

bobbyb5 wrote:

Re: Best Visuals (Color) in Film History

AfterHours — Mon, 10 Jul 2017 20:05:20 GMT

Author: AfterHours

Posted: 07/11/2017 00:05

Norman Bates wrote:

AfterHours wrote:

The Red Shoes - Michael Powell (1948)

Quite unfair to Pressburger. Also, no Anthony Mann / James Stewart? The Searchers? Also, I'm sorry to say: Gone With the Wind and, obviously, Douglas Sirk and Tati (at least Mon Oncle and possibly Playtime.)

Also, Hayden, as far as Godard is concerned, Weekend is a much stronger statement on color movies than Contempt (a stronger statement on natural light though) is.

Re: Pressburger ... I put the list titles together in haste, maybe I'll change it when I finally update the list. None of the cinematographers, art directors or special effects artists are included either, so...

Playtime is on there already. I doubt I'd include Mon Oncle in a top 50 but maybe. Gone with the Wind and The Searchers are each superb examples and were once between 40 & 50 but got knocked out with revisions. I'll get back around to film at some point and will maybe reconsider them. Also this list isn't necessarily totally current (though it probably wouldn't be that much different anyway)