Best Ever Albums

Re: Championship Match: Alvvays (#5) v. Open Mike Eagle (#16)

Repo — Tue, 30 Oct 2018 21:51:24 GMT

Author: Repo

Posted: 10/31/2018 01:51

baystateoftheart wrote:

Thanks Hayden and Tilly! I think having one tournament a year makes it more of a special occasion, and it's also a lot easier to get more people on board with listening to the most recent year in music. So that's what's preventing me from doing a random year. That being said, I would be down for listening to a random year with a few people outside of a tournament context after I'm done with at least one of the years I'm working on now.

Sounds good. I'm down.

Re: Championship Match: Alvvays (#5) v. Open Mike Eagle (#16)

RoundTheBend — Tue, 30 Oct 2018 21:29:20 GMT

Author: RoundTheBend

Posted: 10/31/2018 01:29

A) I honestly didn't even notice.

B) Yes, the more time to review the better.

Re: Championship Match: Alvvays (#5) v. Open Mike Eagle (#16)

baystateoftheart — Tue, 30 Oct 2018 19:49:00 GMT

Author: baystateoftheart

Posted: 10/30/2018 23:49

musicoed wrote:

You understood me wrong.
I have no complaints.
On the contrary!
I am very pleased that there are music lovers like you.
You did a great job.
I myself used electronic voting.
But this is a rather crude method.
It is justified for a large number of participants.
For 20 participants can be counted manually.
I would take it myself, but no one will support me, I'm afraid.

Thanks. Electronic voting is built into BEA, and I have faith that we can use the honor system and people will not manipulate the results. If that faith proves misplaced, obviously we will need to find another solution. To be clear, voting in the poll and then commenting did not count twice. The poll was the only way to vote.

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To clarify for those reading the above exchange, I was soliciting feedback on these two issues below, not the fundamental structure of the tournament. Still interested in people's views on them.

baystateoftheart wrote:

a) Did having a randomized bracket make the tournament more interesting? Should we keep it for the 2018 tournament or use a traditional bracket structure instead?

b) I'm thinking about starting the 2018 tournament a little earlier in the year. Maybe opening nominations on June 1 or July 1. Anyone have thoughts on this?

Re: Championship Match: Alvvays (#5) v. Open Mike Eagle (#16)

musicoed — Tue, 30 Oct 2018 19:18:27 GMT

Author: musicoed

Posted: 10/30/2018 23:18

baystateoftheart wrote:

... but I make no promises on your other request.

Re: Championship Match: Alvvays (#5) v. Open Mike Eagle (#16)

baystateoftheart — Tue, 30 Oct 2018 18:44:43 GMT

Author: baystateoftheart

Posted: 10/30/2018 22:44

musicoed wrote:

My humble wishes:
1. Start summarizing the 2018 tomorrow today - until 12/31/2018.
2. In three classic nominations: 1) Music videos; 2) Tracks; 3) Albums.
3. Refuse to vote without a face.
4. Use only personal rating lists.
5. Give the opportunity to declare no more than one release in the nomination.
6. Give the opportunity to change their applications and ratings.
7. Sum up the interim results at least every week.
8. Give the opportunity to vote against the non-liked releases.
9. Encourage first places at intermediate results.
10. Do not judge me strictly for my ignorance of language and arrogance.))

1. Sorry, no. People need time to review the year before the tournament.
2. I'm not sure if there's appetite for three different tournaments. And this is Best Ever Albums after all.
3. ?
4. ?
5. That's already how it worked this year.
6. I don't see how it would be workable for people to change their nominees once voting has begun.
7. This entire tournament I've been summing them up every day or every other day in the spreadsheet that's linked in every matchup. And you can see the results on every thread yourself if that's not enough.
8. You can already do this by voting for their opponents.
9. ?
10. No judgment on your language, but I make no promises on your other request.

Re: Championship Match: Alvvays (#5) v. Open Mike Eagle (#16)

musicoed — Tue, 30 Oct 2018 18:37:36 GMT

Author: musicoed

Posted: 10/30/2018 22:37

baystateoftheart wrote:

... Anyone have thoughts on this?

Re: Championship Match: Alvvays (#5) v. Open Mike Eagle (#16)

baystateoftheart — Tue, 30 Oct 2018 16:52:43 GMT

Author: baystateoftheart

Posted: 10/30/2018 20:52

Thanks Hayden and Tilly! I think having one tournament a year makes it more of a special occasion, and it's also a lot easier to get more people on board with listening to the most recent year in music. So that's what's preventing me from doing a random year. That being said, I would be down for listening to a random year with a few people outside of a tournament context after I'm done with at least one of the years I'm working on now.

I was going to ask these questions after voting closed, but I might as well now.

a) Did having a randomized bracket make the tournament more interesting? Should we keep it for the 2018 tournament or use a traditional bracket structure instead?

b) I'm thinking about starting the 2018 tournament a little earlier in the year. Maybe opening nominations on June 1 or July 1. Anyone have thoughts on this?

Re: Championship Match: Alvvays (#5) v. Open Mike Eagle (#16)

Repo — Tue, 30 Oct 2018 13:54:50 GMT

Author: Repo

Posted: 10/30/2018 17:54

Puncture Repair wrote:

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THANKS BAYSTATE!!!

Maybe you can pick just another random year to do soon since this was great! Like 1986 or sth.

Re: Championship Match: Alvvays (#5) v. Open Mike Eagle (#16)

Repo — Tue, 30 Oct 2018 13:52:20 GMT

Author: Repo

Posted: 10/30/2018 17:52

Hayden wrote:

Gave both a listen to refresh. Brick Body Kids Still Daydream gets a pretty easy vote from me. Antisocialites is good, but I just don't think it's on the same level. That being said, if it were their debut it'd get my vote.

I feel the exact same way.

Re: Championship Match: Alvvays (#5) v. Open Mike Eagle (#16)

glynspsa — Tue, 30 Oct 2018 11:06:24 GMT

Author: glynspsa

Posted: 10/30/2018 15:06

I voted for Mike Eagle it Barely made my top 100 for the year. really don't get the greatness some are speaking of it was ok at best to me.

Re: Championship Match: Alvvays (#5) v. Open Mike Eagle (#16)

Hayden — Sat, 27 Oct 2018 18:56:41 GMT

Author: Hayden

Posted: 10/27/2018 22:56

Gave both a listen to refresh. Brick Body Kids Still Daydream gets a pretty easy vote from me. Antisocialites is good, but I just don't think it's on the same level. That being said, if it were their debut it'd get my vote.

Two pretty good album titles too.

Not sure I agree with the finals, but I think I appreciate how unique BEA's choices were. Wouldn't have ever expected these showing over Mount Eerie, King Krule, Arca, Perfume Genius or The National. It's kinda cool.

Thanks Baystateoftheart.

Re: Championship Match: Alvvays (#5) v. Open Mike Eagle (#16)

baystateoftheart — Sat, 27 Oct 2018 14:31:44 GMT

Author: baystateoftheart

Posted: 10/27/2018 18:31

Puncture Repair wrote:

Think now's a great time to big up baystateoftheart for organizing this. It's been a blast to follow, and - especially early on - catching up on the niche personal choices and listening to all the music I wouldn't have heard otherwise really brought home to me what's I've always loved about BEA.

The final eight might not have been to everyone's taste, but I think we've got a really interesting final that defies pretty much any end of year list for 2017 I've seen.

My vote will forever and always be for Open Mike. It's such an effortless, perfect hip hop record that still manages to cover new ground while being endlessly listenable - all in a very tight 40 minute package. Thrilled it's made it to the final.

Thanks Puncture Repair! Would be happy to organize one for 2018 albums next year if people are interested.

I feel #blessed that my two favorite albums of the tournament are meeting in the finals. It looks like my nominee is going down, but I can't complain with a second-place finish to an album I love.

Re: Championship Match: Alvvays (#5) v. Open Mike Eagle (#16)

Anonymous — Sat, 27 Oct 2018 14:14:58 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 10/27/2018 18:14

Think now's a great time to big up baystateoftheart for organizing this. It's been a blast to follow, and - especially early on - catching up on the niche personal choices and listening to all the music I wouldn't have heard otherwise really brought home to me what I've always loved about BEA.

The final eight might not have been to everyone's taste, but I think we've got a really interesting final that defies pretty much any end of year list for 2017 I've seen.

My vote will forever and always be for Open Mike. It's such an effortless, perfect hip hop record that still manages to cover new ground while being endlessly listenable - all in a very tight 40 minute package. Thrilled it's made it to the final.

Re: Championship Match: Alvvays (#5) v. Open Mike Eagle (#16)

RoundTheBend — Sat, 27 Oct 2018 13:58:17 GMT

Author: RoundTheBend

Posted: 10/27/2018 17:58

Tough pick for me, but if I were to choose which record between the two I'd put on right now, it'd be Alvvays.

Championship Match: Alvvays (#5) v. Open Mike Eagle (#16)

baystateoftheart — Sat, 27 Oct 2018 13:33:37 GMT

Author: baystateoftheart

Posted: 10/27/2018 17:33

Seed #5:

Antisocialites by Alvvays

Nominated By: baystateoftheart
Genres [RYM]: Indie Pop, Jangle Pop

Seed #16:

Brick Body Kids Still Daydream by Open Mike Eagle

Nominated By: benpaco
Genres [RYM]: Abstract Hip Hop, Conscious Hip Hop, West Coast Hip Hop

Instructions:

If you have not already, please listen to both albums in full before voting. Share your thoughts and/or your vote in this thread. This poll will be tallied in no fewer than seven days. See Tournament Spreadsheet for the full bracket.