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Re: CLOSED- 2018 BTT- Space Cowboy v The Club

mickilennial — Thu, 28 Feb 2019 21:47:13 GMT

Author: mickilennial

Posted: 03/01/2019 02:47

anyone who thinks hinds has the better song needs to get the fuck outta my house

Re: CLOSED- 2018 BTT- Space Cowboy v The Club

revolver94 — Thu, 28 Feb 2019 19:02:02 GMT

Author: revolver94

Posted: 03/01/2019 00:02

OK GUYS i love kacey musgraves too and tbh i am also (pleasantly) surprised by this outcome! dang!

almost any other match up space cowboy would ahve gotten my vote, in terms of my own ranking for the year i have "the club" at #2 and "space cowboy" at #16 so clearly they are both loved by moi

but yeah ngl im p stoked hinds came thru maybe it'll go far?!?! i mean the song speaks for itself 😁

Re: CLOSED- 2018 BTT- Space Cowboy v The Club

RoundTheBend — Wed, 27 Feb 2019 21:37:28 GMT

Author: RoundTheBend

Posted: 02/28/2019 02:37

Hayden wrote:

Booooooooo.

🤣

Re: CLOSED- 2018 BTT- Space Cowboy v The Club

Skinny — Tue, 26 Feb 2019 16:06:51 GMT

Author: Skinny

Posted: 02/26/2019 21:06

Gowi wrote:

yeah, there are some surprising dream pop flourishes on kacey's new record, that i'm not gonna contest, but i just found it kinda absurd to dismiss the country elements in the song too

It was interesting seeing Kacey live on this tour. Whilst I thought the show was overly polished, 'Oh, What A World' - which, on record, reminds me of nothing so much as the gauzy, sunlit, melancholy, subtly ethereal pop of All Saints' 'Pure Shores' - was given a country makeover, full of bluegrass mandolins and prominent pedal steel. A song which I'd previously decided was pure pop suddenly made sense from a country point of you, proving just how naturally (and subtly) Kacey incorporated her influences on this record.

Re: CLOSED- 2018 BTT- Space Cowboy v The Club

mickilennial — Tue, 26 Feb 2019 15:59:33 GMT

Author: mickilennial

Posted: 02/26/2019 20:59

yeah, there are some surprising dream pop flourishes on kacey's new record, that i'm not gonna contest, but i just found it kinda absurd to dismiss the country elements in the song too

Re: CLOSED- 2018 BTT- Space Cowboy v The Club

babyBlueSedan — Tue, 26 Feb 2019 15:59:09 GMT

Author: babyBlueSedan

Posted: 02/26/2019 20:59

carpents wrote:

I didn't mean it as any sort of insult. I'm struggling to hear what's different in the sound (or quite frankly the lyrics) between that song and dream pop/indie pop songs. I think it was a fine dream pop song.

I'm also not biased against country, I like it but don't necessarily listen to a lot of it. (Not any modern country apparently.) And yea, all of Ween's albums are parodies, aren't they? It was just the last country album I listened to.

I'll definitely check out more of her stuff.

Gotcha - I misinterpreted your post a bit. Which was why I was surprised you used Ween as an example of classic country 😁 . It's just that I've heard the "this isn't good because it doesn't conform to the genre it's meant to be" argument before and it's always annoying because what even are genres anyway. I can see where you're coming from with the dream pop angle, it's just that with the instruments used it feels less like a dream pop song to me and more like a country song kind of stretched out to fit a more (dream) pop structure. The lyrics are totally country though, she talks about horses and boots and everything.

And yeah, I think this lost less because it's country and more because people liked the other song better. Which is fine, this tourney would be boring if there were no upsets. On to the next set of match-ups.

Re: CLOSED- 2018 BTT- Space Cowboy v The Club

carpents — Tue, 26 Feb 2019 15:18:34 GMT

Author: carpents

Posted: 02/26/2019 20:18

I didn't mean it as any sort of insult. I'm struggling to hear what's different in the sound (or quite frankly the lyrics) between that song and dream pop/indie pop songs. I think it was a fine dream pop song.

I'm also not biased against country, I like it but don't necessarily listen to a lot of it. (Not any modern country apparently.) And yea, all of Ween's albums are parodies, aren't they? It was just the last country album I listened to.

I'll definitely check out more of her stuff.

Re: CLOSED- 2018 BTT- Space Cowboy v The Club

mickilennial — Tue, 26 Feb 2019 15:00:40 GMT

Author: mickilennial

Posted: 02/26/2019 20:00

babyBlueSedan wrote:

Kacey's album certainly isn't traditional country, but even the poppier songs have a country influence. OK, maybe not High Horse (apart from her voice and the lyrics), but pretty much anywhere you go it will be categorized as country pop. And Space Cowboy is one of the more traditional songs on the album. Genres have the ability to evolve and it's annoying when we can't refer to something in general terms because it breaks slightly with tradition. Arguing that Space Cowboy isn't a country song is like arguing that Joy Division weren't a punk band.

Also, wasn't that Ween album a parody?

imagine being a country artist and told you are too dreamy to be country when you are just following modern cues and nods from emmylou harris and nanci griffith

Re: CLOSED- 2018 BTT- Space Cowboy v The Club

Hayden — Tue, 26 Feb 2019 12:59:20 GMT

Author: Hayden

Posted: 02/26/2019 17:59

Booooooooo.

Re: CLOSED- 2018 BTT- Space Cowboy v The Club

cestuneblague — Tue, 26 Feb 2019 12:55:35 GMT

Author: cestuneblague

Posted: 02/26/2019 17:55

Yeah nothing against Revolver or the Hinds track but this was t he first matchup where I am geniunely shocked at the outcome, but I don't think Kacey's song being "too country" had anything to do it as it's been widely embraced even by the typical indie-rock crowd. There are a few songs I consider nominating that are definitely Hard Country which not to be presumptous would have had a snowball's chance in hell in this tournament, so all in all I think perhaps people prefered the pep over the more languid tune.

Re: CLOSED- 2018 BTT- Space Cowboy v The Club

babyBlueSedan — Tue, 26 Feb 2019 12:50:37 GMT

Author: babyBlueSedan

Posted: 02/26/2019 17:50

Kacey's album certainly isn't traditional country, but even the poppier songs have a country influence. OK, maybe not High Horse (apart from her voice and the lyrics), but pretty much anywhere you go it will be categorized as country pop. And Space Cowboy is one of the more traditional songs on the album. Genres have the ability to evolve and it's annoying when we can't refer to something in general terms because it breaks slightly with tradition. Arguing that Space Cowboy isn't a country song is like arguing that Joy Division weren't a punk band.

Also, wasn't that Ween album a parody?

Re: CLOSED- 2018 BTT- Space Cowboy v The Club

carpents — Tue, 26 Feb 2019 12:38:05 GMT

Author: carpents

Posted: 02/26/2019 17:38

Gowi wrote:

it absolutely is, lol

Country:

Link

Re: CLOSED- 2018 BTT- Space Cowboy v The Club

Anonymous — Tue, 26 Feb 2019 11:21:21 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 02/26/2019 16:21

I think it was that cool video from Hinds wot dunnit.

Re: CLOSED- 2018 BTT- Space Cowboy v The Club

cestuneblague — Tue, 26 Feb 2019 11:10:28 GMT

Author: cestuneblague

Posted: 02/26/2019 16:10

Guess Space Cowboy isn't pageant material

Hinds 12-11

Re: CLOSED- 2018 BTT- Space Cowboy v The Club

mickilennial — Tue, 26 Feb 2019 07:23:30 GMT

Author: mickilennial

Posted: 02/26/2019 12:23

it absolutely is, lol

Re: CLOSED- 2018 BTT- Space Cowboy v The Club

carpents — Tue, 26 Feb 2019 07:01:07 GMT

Author: carpents

Posted: 02/26/2019 12:01

baystateoftheart wrote:

Not super surprising to me. BEA greatly prefers indie rock to country,

Well I admittedly don't know anything about Kacey Musgraves, but this song absolutely wasn't country.

This was a real toss-up for me, I liked both songs.

Re: CLOSED- 2018 BTT- Space Cowboy v The Club

mickilennial — Tue, 26 Feb 2019 00:53:28 GMT

Author: mickilennial

Posted: 02/26/2019 05:53

baystateoftheart wrote:

Not super surprising to me. BEA greatly prefers indie rock to country, to the point where even the best country song starts off with a disadvantage. I hope she makes it out of the first round, but any song of hers that could've been nominated had no real chance to win it all. :|

sadly, this is the case

Re: CLOSED- 2018 BTT- Space Cowboy v The Club

baystateoftheart — Tue, 26 Feb 2019 00:22:20 GMT

Author: baystateoftheart

Posted: 02/26/2019 05:22

Tilly wrote:

Wow! Nice seeing The Hinds holding their own against Kacey Musgraves!

Re: CLOSED- 2018 BTT- Space Cowboy v The Club

Repo — Mon, 25 Feb 2019 21:27:07 GMT

Author: Repo

Posted: 02/26/2019 02:27

Wow! Nice seeing The Hinds holding their own against Kacey Musgraves!

Re: CLOSED- 2018 BTT- Space Cowboy v The Club

LittleM1971 — Mon, 25 Feb 2019 18:50:11 GMT

Author: LittleM1971

Posted: 02/25/2019 23:50

Love me a bit of Spanish indie-pop. Didn’t think this album quite matched up to their debut but along with this song it had a few moments...I very nearly went for Finally Floating as one of my picks.

Space Cowboy all good as is the album but I’m going for fun for this match up. Hinds.