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Re: CLOSED- 2018 BTT- Arrest the President v Pick Up

cestuneblague — Fri, 1 Mar 2019 18:07:52 GMT

Author: cestuneblague

Posted: 03/01/2019 23:07

MORE CLOUDS TO YELL AT, MR CUBE

DJ KOZE 11-5

Im kidding pls no more 5 page arguments

Re: CLOSED- 2018 BTT- Arrest the President v Pick Up

LittleM1971 — Thu, 28 Feb 2019 18:48:50 GMT

Author: LittleM1971

Posted: 02/28/2019 23:48

DJ Koze comfortably.

Could happily enjoy a few beers somewhere in the Mediterranean with this playing in the background.

Re: CLOSED- 2018 BTT- Arrest the President v Pick Up

baystateoftheart — Thu, 28 Feb 2019 12:51:56 GMT

Author: baystateoftheart

Posted: 02/28/2019 17:51

Skinny wrote:

Tell him to check YG's 'Fuck Donald Trump', a much better takedown of the man and perhaps the 21st century's greatest addition to the protest song canon.

True. I was at a party a week before the election where people destroyed a Trump pinata, and I had a speaker with me so I was able to give the festivities a good soundtrack courtesy of YG. Back when we all thought it would be one of the year's most important songs, and not one of the decade's most important songs.

So far I have refused to listen to FDT 2, which features G-Eazy and Macklemore. Has anyone heard that one?

Re: CLOSED- 2018 BTT- Arrest the President v Pick Up

Skinny — Thu, 28 Feb 2019 10:44:08 GMT

Author: Skinny

Posted: 02/28/2019 15:44

Purplepash wrote:

I first heard the Ice Cube song when my 19 year old son played it to me. I don't think he even would have thought or cared how old Ice Cube is, just liked the song on it's own merits. DJ Koze bored me. Going with Ice Cube here.

Tell him to check YG's 'Fuck Donald Trump', a much better takedown of the man and perhaps the 21st century's greatest addition to the protest song canon.

Re: CLOSED- 2018 BTT- Arrest the President v Pick Up

Purplepash — Thu, 28 Feb 2019 04:39:47 GMT

Author: Purplepash

Posted: 02/28/2019 09:39

I first heard the Ice Cube song when my 19 year old son played it to me. I don't think he even would have thought or cared how old Ice Cube is, just liked the song on it's own merits. DJ Koze bored me. Going with Ice Cube here.

Re: CLOSED- 2018 BTT- Arrest the President v Pick Up

baystateoftheart — Wed, 27 Feb 2019 22:14:49 GMT

Author: baystateoftheart

Posted: 02/28/2019 03:14

On one hand, we have a hopelessly corny "It's Mueller Time" song with various tangents thrown in. A shame Cube didn't have better promotion - should have been a hit with the #resistance.

On the other hand, we have one of the best house tracks of the year. Easy choice.

Re: CLOSED- 2018 BTT- Arrest the President v Pick Up

Skinny — Wed, 27 Feb 2019 07:55:00 GMT

Author: Skinny

Posted: 02/27/2019 12:55

Fischman wrote:

Skinny wrote:

Fischman wrote:

I'm really surprised at all the ageism here.

If nobody had never heard of Ice Cube and didn't see him performing the song, would anybody know that it was a 50 year old? And why does it matter? Does reaching a certain age mean you are no longer allowed to be disillusioned and you no longer allowed to protest? Does anyone complain when Dylan or Neil Young come up with a new song with a social message?

And it would seem obvious that the current President should be the most viable target of such, far more so than any President past.

It's corny as fuck for a 50 year old man to moan about vaping through the medium of rap. That isn't ageist. There are rappers Cube's age who are still great (particularly E-40, Masta Ace, DJ Quik); Cube is not. Hell, Ka's only three years younger than Cube and is arguably the best rapper in the world right now. This song is full of trite, lazy, often meaningless rhymes, delivered with a clumsy flow over a beat that sounds like a cheap, marching band ready version of early 2000s radio rap (think 'Ante Up' or 'Lean Back'). It's not just stale, it's rotting and stinking out the place. I love Ice Cube; that five-year, five-album stretch from Straight Outta Compton in '89 through Lethal Injection in '93 remains one of the greatest periods of consistent artistic inspiration in hip-hop. Hearing him resort to tired, hackneyed, years behind the times crap like this is sad. There is simply no longer a place for him in contemporary hip-hop, which has moved on without him. That said, I'm not arguing he shouldn't continue to make music, rather that this is a terrible choice for a tournament like this - I must have heard, with no exaggeration, over 1000 better rap songs than this released in 2018.

I don't even like DJ Koze, but the choice here is simple.

When you say "It's corny as fuck for a 50 year old man to.....," no matter what follows to complete the thought, it's inherently ageist as the justification for the slam is made based on the message not being age appropriate.

Now, if the music/message itself is "hackneyed," "tired," "lazy," "stale," then that may all be valid criticism and it should be left at that.

Maybe you have a point. Correction: It's corny as fuck for anybody to moan about vaping through the medium of rap.

Re: CLOSED- 2018 BTT- Arrest the President v Pick Up

Fischman — Wed, 27 Feb 2019 07:53:06 GMT

Author: Fischman

Posted: 02/27/2019 12:53

Skinny wrote:

Fischman wrote:

Re: CLOSED- 2018 BTT- Arrest the President v Pick Up

Skinny — Wed, 27 Feb 2019 01:33:17 GMT

Author: Skinny

Posted: 02/27/2019 06:33

Fischman wrote:

Re: CLOSED- 2018 BTT- Arrest the President v Pick Up

mickilennial — Wed, 27 Feb 2019 01:09:51 GMT

Author: mickilennial

Posted: 02/27/2019 06:09

sethmadsen wrote:

Anyway, for me I was into the Ice Cube track until the worst execution of a chorus happened to a rap song. It's not the words or the message, it's just pure lazy. If you want to say something like that, you have to put some umph into it and that was a boring execution.

The DJ... idk I was just bored with it.

Abstain.

Also was 2017 just a better year or am I not giving these songs the benefit I should? I mean no offense, but few of these songs really have made me want to check out the album.

you are not giving them the benefit.

also, a lot of them aren't even the standout tracks on their respective records; i think a lot of people wanted to take chances (or actually liked their cuts better) and get more exposure.

Re: CLOSED- 2018 BTT- Arrest the President v Pick Up

RoundTheBend — Wed, 27 Feb 2019 01:08:11 GMT

Author: RoundTheBend

Posted: 02/27/2019 06:08

Anyway, for me I was into the Ice Cube track until the worst execution of a chorus happened to a rap song. It's not the words or the message, it's just pure lazy. If you want to say something like that, you have to put some umph into it and that was a boring execution.

The DJ... idk I was just bored with it.

Abstain.

Also was 2017 just a better year or am I not giving these songs the benefit I should? I mean no offense, but few of these songs really have made me want to check out the album.

Re: CLOSED- 2018 BTT- Arrest the President v Pick Up

babyBlueSedan — Tue, 26 Feb 2019 22:06:53 GMT

Author: babyBlueSedan

Posted: 02/27/2019 03:06

Yeah to be clear I agree with pretty much everything he's saying here, I just don't think it makes for a very compelling song. A lot of these observations are pretty surface level, and while "Arrest the president, we got the evidence" would be a semi-OK protest chant, it makes for a pretty lame chorus. If a younger rapper released this I'd still consider it pretty heavy handed, but like Skinny said it's kind of funny to hear someone who started rapping in the 80s talk about vape pens.

Re: CLOSED- 2018 BTT- Arrest the President v Pick Up

Fischman — Tue, 26 Feb 2019 21:00:03 GMT

Author: Fischman

Posted: 02/27/2019 02:00

Gowi wrote:

the beats and production on the cube track is just lacking, has nothing to do with age

While I might not agree, I appreciate the consistency of that statement.

Re: CLOSED- 2018 BTT- Arrest the President v Pick Up

mickilennial — Tue, 26 Feb 2019 20:52:34 GMT

Author: mickilennial

Posted: 02/27/2019 01:52

the beats and production on the cube track is just lacking, has nothing to do with age

Re: CLOSED- 2018 BTT- Arrest the President v Pick Up

Fischman — Tue, 26 Feb 2019 20:33:38 GMT

Author: Fischman

Posted: 02/27/2019 01:33

I'm really surprised at all the ageism here.

If nobody had never heard of Ice Cube and didn't see him performing the song, would anybody know that it was a 50 year old? And why does it matter? Does reaching a certain age mean you are no longer allowed to be disillusioned and you no longer allowed to protest? Does anyone complain when Dylan or Neil Young come up with a new song with a social message?

And it would seem obvious that the current President should be the most viable target of such, far more so than any President past.

Re: CLOSED- 2018 BTT- Arrest the President v Pick Up

Hayden — Tue, 26 Feb 2019 20:20:17 GMT

Author: Hayden

Posted: 02/27/2019 01:20

Fischman wrote:

Disco ducks

It's... not really disco 😕

And that's not even the full-length version of the track. Full version is about 10min.

Oddly, I actually do think Ice Cube's age hinders the track. If he had made it 15-20 years ago (different times, diff president, whatever, etc... regardless) I'd think a little more highly of it. As it is, it's a little corny.

Re: CLOSED- 2018 BTT- Arrest the President v Pick Up

babyBlueSedan — Tue, 26 Feb 2019 20:05:13 GMT

Author: babyBlueSedan

Posted: 02/27/2019 01:05

I enjoyed DJ Koze's album quite a bit, and this song is one of the standouts. Gets my vote over a song that was better than I expected but still had one of the corniest hooks I've ever heard.

Re: CLOSED- 2018 BTT- Arrest the President v Pick Up

Fischman — Tue, 26 Feb 2019 19:07:33 GMT

Author: Fischman

Posted: 02/27/2019 00:07

Disco ducks

And

You cant spell crap without rap

And yet I got into both selections quite a bit. In the end though, I had to conclude the DJ went on too long for what it was and pulled the lever for Mr. Cube.

Re: CLOSED- 2018 BTT- Arrest the President v Pick Up

Anonymous — Tue, 26 Feb 2019 18:57:59 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 02/26/2019 23:57

Without the shadow of a doubt, I voted for Pick Up.

Re: CLOSED- 2018 BTT- Arrest the President v Pick Up

Skinny — Tue, 26 Feb 2019 15:13:39 GMT

Author: Skinny

Posted: 02/26/2019 20:13

I can't in good faith vote for a 50 year old man rapping, "you so basic with your vape stick".