Best Ever Albums

Re: CLOSEDSFEarly 2010s Tourney: Frank Ocean v Gibbs/Madlib

cestuneblague — Mon, 20 Apr 2020 23:02:34 GMT

Author: cestuneblague

Posted: 04/21/2020 03:02

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Thuggin' 11-7

Re: CLOSEDSFEarly 2010s Tourney: Frank Ocean v Gibbs/Madlib

babyBlueSedan — Mon, 20 Apr 2020 12:57:41 GMT

Author: babyBlueSedan

Posted: 04/20/2020 16:57

Dammit, I knew I should have nominated "Fertilizer" instead...

Re: CLOSEDSFEarly 2010s Tourney: Frank Ocean v Gibbs/Madlib

BARDAMU — Mon, 20 Apr 2020 12:12:48 GMT

Author: BARDAMU

Posted: 04/20/2020 16:12

Skinny wrote:

I actually find 'Pyramids' pretty overwrought and overblown. Sounds like The Weeknd tried to write a Van der Graaf Generator song. Literally any other song from that album would've been a better choice, including the ones that are barely even sketches of songs. I thought it was great when it first came out, but I struggle to listen to the whole thing these days. Not sure I need 9-minute prog R'n'B with a soft watercolourelectroclash sound palette in my life anymore.

GIIIIIIIIBBSSSSSS

Re: CLOSEDSFEarly 2010s Tourney: Frank Ocean v Gibbs/Madlib

junodog4 — Sun, 19 Apr 2020 17:34:28 GMT

Author: junodog4

Posted: 04/19/2020 21:34

I stand by my original statement - Thuggin for the whole tournament. It's getting tougher, though.

Re: CLOSEDSFEarly 2010s Tourney: Frank Ocean v Gibbs/Madlib

baystateoftheart — Sat, 18 Apr 2020 22:53:10 GMT

Author: baystateoftheart

Posted: 04/19/2020 02:53

Definitely Thuggin'

Re: CLOSEDSFEarly 2010s Tourney: Frank Ocean v Gibbs/Madlib

Tha1ChiefRocka — Sat, 18 Apr 2020 12:06:38 GMT

Author: Tha1ChiefRocka

Posted: 04/18/2020 16:06

With Numbers on the Boards out, Freddie needs to carry the torch for me now.

Re: CLOSEDSFEarly 2010s Tourney: Frank Ocean v Gibbs/Madlib

Skinny — Fri, 17 Apr 2020 05:04:52 GMT

Author: Skinny

Posted: 04/17/2020 09:04

I actually find 'Pyramids' pretty overwrought and overblown. Sounds like The Weeknd tried to write a Van der Graaf Generator song. Literally any other song from that album would've been a better choice, including the ones that are barely even sketches of songs. I thought it was great when it first came out, but I struggle to listen to the whole thing these days. Not sure I need 9-minute prog R'n'B with a soft watercolourelectroclash sound palette in my life anymore.

As for 'Thuggin'', it stands alone as the single greatest rap song of the 21st century. A masterclass in both beat-making (hazy, swirling, subtly psychedelic; still hard as bricks) and rapping (the flows, which recall Pac and Bone Thugs in equal measure, are dextrous, nimble, and yet utterly legible; the lyrics come about as close as any song ever did to encompassing the lessons of The Wire, albeit with a far greater, more skillful economy, managing to point out the links between the victims of the war on drugs - junkies, dealers - and its perpetrators, whilst showing its injustices in ways that are never preachy, putting forward a whole worldview that brings to mind that show's own Atlas, Bodie Broadus, with no glorification and certainly no compromise in its quietly triumphant ode to, above all else, survival), it pit figureheads from two totally different ends of the rap spectrum together and worked better than anybody could have expected. People forget that this came out in 2011, when Gibbs was still a pretty unknown quantity outside of people who went looking for that sort of thing; he now stands as one of the most well-respected and critically acclaimed rappers alive, a man with true crossover appeal in a way that seemed unlikely (verging on impossible) pre-'Thuggin''. I still think it's the greatest thing either man has done, and I adore large parts of both of their discographies, but they really caught the lightning on this one. I can't even imagine what a better song might sound like.

Re: CLOSEDSFEarly 2010s Tourney: Frank Ocean v Gibbs/Madlib

cestuneblague — Thu, 16 Apr 2020 23:36:52 GMT

Author: cestuneblague

Posted: 04/17/2020 03:36

Pyramids makes a nice wall of sound, Thuggin' ever-so-casually throw you through it instead. Gibbs and Mad all the way.

Re: CLOSEDSFEarly 2010s Tourney: Frank Ocean v Gibbs/Madlib

NJ — Thu, 16 Apr 2020 23:27:49 GMT

Author: NJ

Posted: 04/17/2020 03:27

Thuggin' is a solid track, but Pyramids is one of the greatest songs ever and I'd be okay with it winning this tournament, so my vote easily goes to Frank.

CLOSEDSFEarly 2010s Tourney: Frank Ocean v Gibbs/Madlib

cestuneblague — Thu, 16 Apr 2020 22:17:20 GMT

Author: cestuneblague

Posted: 04/17/2020 02:17

FRANK OCEAN- PYRAMIDS

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FREDDIE GIBBS/MADLIB- THUGGIN'

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