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Re: (Closed) 2015-2019 Round 1: Papa John vs Aldous Harding

RoundTheBend — Thu, 1 Oct 2020 22:00:07 GMT

Author: RoundTheBend

Posted: 10/02/2020 02:00

oh ok, that makes perfect sense. And agreed. Respect that entirely.

Perhaps it does remind me a little of Candide. Quite bitter slam on Leibniz.

Re: (Closed) 2015-2019 Round 1: Papa John vs Aldous Harding

baystateoftheart — Thu, 1 Oct 2020 21:09:47 GMT

Author: baystateoftheart

Posted: 10/02/2020 01:09

RoundTheBend wrote:

baystateoftheart wrote:

RoundTheBend wrote:

Yeah I can see that on those - they definitely are more immediate.

Something about the anthropological aspect of Pure Comedy (album and title track) I Really dig... more so than anything else he's done. Dunno why I feel completely different than everyone else - I actually do think his ramblings are clever philosophical shticks. Probably because I'm a pasty wonky cracker.

The thing is though, no good anthropologist would say most of this stuff. I think what you're referring to is the bird's-eye view of humanity that he's trying to approximate, which is something shared with anthropologists.

Yeah I mean who talks about why men go out to "hunt" in their music/the feminist struggle of taking care of children? I can't really think of anyone who is more obviously anthropological than this song. Or why tribal women wear their children and western society doesn't (as he talks about us being born too soon). Maybe I'm reading to much into it, but I remember it hitting me pretty strong the first time I listened to the song. I actually could take or leave FJM before I heard this song.

And yes, it's a pop song, so of course it's not a peer reviewed paper on anthropological terms/I'm not calling him a professor of Anthropology/the spokesperson of the greatest anthropological discourse, rather it was distinctly so... and more so than most due to all the aspects of what's discussed. Not just religion or family dynamics or politics or whatever - but the whole picture.

But yes, anthropologists discuss a lot of these concepts in further detail and no they often don't have quick poetic synopsis of their findings on those topics.

I feel like a professor of anthropology I studied with talked about male and female roles in different cultures. That hunting for protein was key to... blah blah blah... anyway, maybe I'm lost on the point you are making? Or only garbage anthropologists talk about those types of things?

I'm really at a loss of how these are garbage lyrics. Easy targets; cheap shots is kinda what I'm hearing. Do you have another musician who is amazing at this type of portrayal of humanity which makes FJM clearly the idiot I feel people are making him out to be now?

My point is that a good anthropologist would not ridicule a given society's religious beliefs/garments/texts, social/cultural mores, or political structures. A good anthropologist would try to understand these aspects of the culture being studied by setting aside their own ethnocentrism, instead of condemning them with an air of superiority as FJM does.

Re: (Closed) 2015-2019 Round 1: Papa John vs Aldous Harding

RoundTheBend — Wed, 30 Sep 2020 01:23:27 GMT

Author: RoundTheBend

Posted: 09/30/2020 05:23

What if the bird aren't singing they're screaming was possibly my favorite find of the tourney, so at least there's that 😄

Re: (Closed) 2015-2019 Round 1: Papa John vs Aldous Harding

RoundTheBend — Wed, 30 Sep 2020 01:22:26 GMT

Author: RoundTheBend

Posted: 09/30/2020 05:22

baystateoftheart wrote:

RoundTheBend wrote:

Re: (Closed) 2015-2019 Round 1: Papa John vs Aldous Harding

babyBlueSedan — Tue, 29 Sep 2020 23:05:38 GMT

Author: babyBlueSedan

Posted: 09/30/2020 03:05

What if What if the birds aren't singing they're screaming is screaming because it's out of the tourney

Father John Misty wins 10-7

Re: (Closed) 2015-2019 Round 1: Papa John vs Aldous Harding

baystateoftheart — Tue, 29 Sep 2020 20:36:18 GMT

Author: baystateoftheart

Posted: 09/30/2020 00:36

RoundTheBend wrote:

Re: (Closed) 2015-2019 Round 1: Papa John vs Aldous Harding

baystateoftheart — Tue, 29 Sep 2020 20:29:38 GMT

Author: baystateoftheart

Posted: 09/30/2020 00:29

We live in a society... wake up sheeple!

Insufferable lyrics like this are why I didn't bother with Pure Comedy the album. Aldous Harding easily.

Re: (Closed) 2015-2019 Round 1: Papa John vs Aldous Harding

RoundTheBend — Sun, 27 Sep 2020 20:32:40 GMT

Author: RoundTheBend

Posted: 09/28/2020 00:32

Yeah I can see that on those - they definitely are more immediate.

Something about the anthropological aspect of Pure Comedy (album and title track) I Really dig... more so than anything else he's done. Dunno why I feel completely different than everyone else - I actually do think his ramblings are clever philosophical shticks. Probably because I'm a pasty wonky cracker.

Re: (Closed) 2015-2019 Round 1: Papa John vs Aldous Harding

mickilennial — Sun, 27 Sep 2020 17:41:36 GMT

Author: mickilennial

Posted: 09/27/2020 21:41

RoundTheBend wrote:

what's old that's more thought provocative?

I guess I'm boring (rest of BEA thinks what else is new).

I liked when he was telling gonzo stories with better consistency. IDK stuff like:

Link

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not really thought provoking as i remember but its way better than what he's doing now

Re: (Closed) 2015-2019 Round 1: Papa John vs Aldous Harding

RoundTheBend — Sun, 27 Sep 2020 16:22:41 GMT

Author: RoundTheBend

Posted: 09/27/2020 20:22

what's old that's more thought provocative?

I guess I'm boring (rest of BEA thinks what else is new).

Re: (Closed) 2015-2019 Round 1: Papa John vs Aldous Harding

mickilennial — Sun, 27 Sep 2020 16:13:43 GMT

Author: mickilennial

Posted: 09/27/2020 20:13

babyBlueSedan wrote:

I know I'm in the minority, but I find this FJM song (like the rest of the album it's from) to be completely maudlin and bland musically while not being nearly as insightful or clever as it thinks it is lyrically. Super easy vote for Harding.

^

i miss old FJM, his newer stuff hasnt been as provocative or interesting

Re: (Closed) 2015-2019 Round 1: Papa John vs Aldous Harding

babyBlueSedan — Sun, 27 Sep 2020 14:32:10 GMT

Author: babyBlueSedan

Posted: 09/27/2020 18:32

I know I'm in the minority, but I find this FJM song (like the rest of the album it's from) to be completely maudlin and bland musically while not being nearly as insightful or clever as it thinks it is lyrically. Super easy vote for Harding.

Re: (Closed) 2015-2019 Round 1: Papa John vs Aldous Harding

RoundTheBend — Sat, 26 Sep 2020 15:20:10 GMT

Author: RoundTheBend

Posted: 09/26/2020 19:20

Really wish these weren't up against each other. Find them both to be fantastic.

In the end though, FJM (who by the way I didn't really dig until this record, so great pick... almost picked Total Entertainment Forever from this record myself).

Re: (Closed) 2015-2019 Round 1: Papa John vs Aldous Harding

travelful — Fri, 25 Sep 2020 09:49:00 GMT

Author: travelful

Posted: 09/25/2020 13:49

Pure Comedy is such a banger

Re: (Closed) 2015-2019 Round 1: Papa John vs Aldous Harding

cestuneblague — Fri, 25 Sep 2020 08:13:22 GMT

Author: cestuneblague

Posted: 09/25/2020 12:13

It would seem like Father John Misty's music would usually turn me off, but surprisingy I like it despite it's easy targets, and Aldous Harding seems like something I would really enjoy but I just... don't. So I guess a vote for Pure Comedy

Re: (Closed) 2015-2019 Round 1: Papa John vs Aldous Harding

LedZep — Fri, 25 Sep 2020 08:07:19 GMT

Author: LedZep

Posted: 09/25/2020 12:07

FJM easily. I love how pretentious he sounds on Pure Comedy.

(Closed) 2015-2019 Round 1: Papa John vs Aldous Harding

babyBlueSedan — Thu, 24 Sep 2020 23:28:51 GMT

Author: babyBlueSedan

Posted: 09/25/2020 03:28

Pure Comedy by Father John Misty

Link

Year: 2017
Nominating user: NJ

vs

What if birds aren't singing they're screaming by Aldous Harding

Link

Year: 2019
Nominating user: LittleM1971

Matches closes end of day Tuesday September 29th