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Re: (Closed) 2015-2019 Round 2: Lana Del Rey vs Agusa

babyBlueSedan — Fri, 16 Oct 2020 14:04:49 GMT

Author: babyBlueSedan

Posted: 10/16/2020 18:04

Lana Del Rey is blonde and gone

Agusa wins 9-8

Re: (Closed) 2015-2019 Round 2: Lana Del Rey vs Agusa

baystateoftheart — Wed, 14 Oct 2020 19:56:35 GMT

Author: baystateoftheart

Posted: 10/14/2020 23:56

babyBlueSedan wrote:

Why do you all think The Greatest will age poorly (or at least not age well)? It's a very of-the-moment song with its references to Kanye West and Hawaii, but it also speaks to a broader type of "end of an era" feeling with it's mention of Dennis Wilson and a few other lines. And, as unfortunate as it is, I think it's references to climate change are only going to become more relevant in the coming years.

As a comparison, Dylan wrote similar lyrics that touched on topics that were relevant at the time and while I think not all of his lyrics have aged well, songs like "The Lonesome Death of Hattie Carroll" still strike a chord today.

The answer is right there in your post. The other lyrics may have enduring elements, but the Hawaii and Kanye lyrics are already dated. It's a time capsule of when she wrote it, and like most time capsules, it includes the ephemeral and not just the consequential. One point of comparison would be A Simple Desultory Philippic by Simon & Garfunkel, which coincidentally is a Dylan parody.

Re: (Closed) 2015-2019 Round 2: Lana Del Rey vs Agusa

Skinny — Wed, 14 Oct 2020 14:26:28 GMT

Author: Skinny

Posted: 10/14/2020 18:26

I'm going with Agusa, even though I think both are brilliant. Something about its mixing of traditional folk melodies with wild space-rock soundscapes really hits all the right buttons - it's a song I can totally immerse myself in. I love 'The Greatest' as well, but sometimes the lyrical allusions are jarringly on the nose (but honestly they're mostly pretty great and at this point I'm nitpicking in order to justify a very difficult choice).

Re: (Closed) 2015-2019 Round 2: Lana Del Rey vs Agusa

babyBlueSedan — Wed, 14 Oct 2020 12:51:34 GMT

Author: babyBlueSedan

Posted: 10/14/2020 16:51

Why do you all think The Greatest will age poorly (or at least not age well)? It's a very of-the-moment song with its references to Kanye West and Hawaii, but it also speaks to a broader type of "end of an era" feeling with it's mention of Dennis Wilson and a few other lines. And, as unfortunate as it is, I think it's references to climate change are only going to become more relevant in the coming years.

As a comparison, Dylan wrote similar lyrics that touched on topics that were relevant at the time and while I think not all of his lyrics have aged well, songs like "The Lonesome Death of Hattie Carroll" still strike a chord today.

Re: (Closed) 2015-2019 Round 2: Lana Del Rey vs Agusa

LedZep — Wed, 14 Oct 2020 12:05:45 GMT

Author: LedZep

Posted: 10/14/2020 16:05

baystateoftheart wrote:

Both songs are full of talent but also have clear flaws. I am sure far more people will be listening to The Greatest in a decade, but Landet Längesen will age better even if it ages into obscurity.

That's exactly right.

Re: (Closed) 2015-2019 Round 2: Lana Del Rey vs Agusa

baystateoftheart — Tue, 13 Oct 2020 19:23:05 GMT

Author: baystateoftheart

Posted: 10/13/2020 23:23

The only match of this batch that I find really difficult. Both songs are full of talent but also have clear flaws. I am sure far more people will be listening to The Greatest in a decade, but Landet Längesen will age better even if it ages into obscurity. So I'll let that be the tiebreaker.

Re: (Closed) 2015-2019 Round 2: Lana Del Rey vs Agusa

LedZep — Tue, 13 Oct 2020 05:17:09 GMT

Author: LedZep

Posted: 10/13/2020 09:17

If that Agusa track was a minute or two shorter I’d vote for it, but it drags ever so slightly. It’s a great song, but maybe not The Greatest. Don’t know what I’ll vote in the end, have to think for a bit longer.

(Closed) 2015-2019 Round 2: Lana Del Rey vs Agusa

babyBlueSedan — Sun, 11 Oct 2020 22:53:46 GMT

Author: babyBlueSedan

Posted: 10/12/2020 02:53

The Greatest by Lana Del Rey

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Year: 2019
Nominating user: Hayden

vs

Landet Längesen by Agusa

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Year: 2017
Nominating user: Fischman

Matches closes end of day Thursday October 15th