Best Ever Albums

Re: Ride the Lightning vs. Master of Puppets

kokkinos — Mon, 16 Nov 2020 13:13:46 GMT

Author: kokkinos

Posted: 11/16/2020 18:13

From the perspective of someone who is not really into metal or any of its subgenres , I have to say that I find their self titled album as by far their most accessible and enjoyable. But if once in a blue moon I am in the mood for this kind of stuff, I would definitely pick Ride the Lightning over Master of Puppets.

Re: Ride the Lightning vs. Master of Puppets

LedZep — Sun, 15 Nov 2020 05:24:40 GMT

Author: LedZep

Posted: 11/15/2020 10:24

The biggest difference between the two is the lyricism imo. Kill 'em All is balls to the wall silly rock lyricism, while Ride the Lightning has some stories, most of which don't concern drinking, headbanging and living fast. Both are loads of fun imo, in their own way.

Re: Ride the Lightning vs. Master of Puppets

mickilennial — Sun, 15 Nov 2020 04:52:12 GMT

Author: mickilennial

Posted: 11/15/2020 09:52

Skinny wrote:

It's honestly the only one I like at all. It's a whole lot of fun.

You don't like any of the riffs or pace on Ride the Lightning? It's not that far apart stylistically.

Re: Ride the Lightning vs. Master of Puppets

Skinny — Sun, 15 Nov 2020 03:59:55 GMT

Author: Skinny

Posted: 11/15/2020 08:59

BARDAMU wrote:

The real best Metallica album is ofc Kill 'Em All.

It's honestly the only one I like at all. It's a whole lot of fun.

Re: Ride the Lightning vs. Master of Puppets

LedZep — Sat, 14 Nov 2020 18:05:33 GMT

Author: LedZep

Posted: 11/14/2020 23:05

Gowi wrote:

I think it was a joke, Zep.

Might be but it’s 1AM and I’m barely keeping my eyes open. Wouldn’t see a joke if he wrote /s at the end.

Re: Ride the Lightning vs. Master of Puppets

mickilennial — Sat, 14 Nov 2020 18:01:16 GMT

Author: mickilennial

Posted: 11/14/2020 23:01

I think it was a joke, Zep.

Re: Ride the Lightning vs. Master of Puppets

LedZep — Sat, 14 Nov 2020 17:57:32 GMT

Author: LedZep

Posted: 11/14/2020 22:57

BARDAMU wrote:

Ride the Lightning by a mile. The real best Metallica album is ofc Kill 'Em All. After those first two records, there's only one other Metallica album worth caring about.

Applerill wrote:

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Lulu by Lou Reed & Metallica

he'll yeah

This is possibly the worst take I’ve heard on BEA so far. And I’ve heard a lot of bad takes. Ok, Lulu isn’t as terrible as a lot of people claim, it’s not one of the worst albums ever. But it’s definitely not better than any other Metallica studio album, except maybe St. Anger.
Edit: This sounded too harsh. Like you do you, but I’m just saying you’re objectively wrong 😁

Re: Ride the Lightning vs. Master of Puppets

BARDAMU — Sat, 14 Nov 2020 16:47:04 GMT

Author: BARDAMU

Posted: 11/14/2020 21:47

Ride the Lightning by a mile. The real best Metallica album is ofc Kill 'Em All. After those first two records, there's only one other Metallica album worth caring about.

Applerill wrote:

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Lulu by Lou Reed & Metallica

he'll yeah

Re: Ride the Lightning vs. Master of Puppets

RoundTheBend — Fri, 13 Nov 2020 21:16:52 GMT

Author: RoundTheBend

Posted: 11/14/2020 02:16

Gowi wrote:

I don't think the mixing/production on any Metallica record is particularly great now that I think of it. Even RTL and KEA seem kind of sterile when I listen to them. Not as flithy as I expect from a style that's really just ripping off Motorhead and increasing the pace. :P

🤣

Almost, but yeah, I can get that.

I do feel a unique difference between the two, but yeah - almost exactly right.

Re: Ride the Lightning vs. Master of Puppets

Spyglass — Thu, 12 Nov 2020 10:21:55 GMT

Author: Spyglass

Posted: 11/12/2020 15:21

Gowi wrote:

I completely get what you're saying, but I disagree in a way. My metalcore (more accurately, punk/metal in general) phase has taught me that both dirty and polished production are perfectly fine for metal, depending on what you're doing. I think the production is perfectly suitable for some of their albums, but not all of them. After Metallica they pretty much stuck with standard studio production and I can imagine quite a few RtL fans being very disappointed overtime.

Re: Ride the Lightning vs. Master of Puppets

mickilennial — Thu, 12 Nov 2020 01:50:24 GMT

Author: mickilennial

Posted: 11/12/2020 06:50

I don't think the mixing/production on any Metallica record is particularly great now that I think of it. Even RTL and KEA seem kind of sterile when I listen to them. Not as flithy as I expect from a style that's really just ripping off Motorhead and increasing the pace. 😜

Re: Ride the Lightning vs. Master of Puppets

RoundTheBend — Thu, 12 Nov 2020 01:31:23 GMT

Author: RoundTheBend

Posted: 11/12/2020 06:31

I guess I'm the dumbass who likes Master of Puppets more (from memory... it's been at least 3 years since I've listened to both).

I could make some dumbass excuse that I really respect Orion from being a bassist, but that's not even close to why. I guess I don't see the album as bloated, rather feels a bit more mature/refined/well balanced.

I typically get bored as hell with prog... so dunno... I see it differently is all I suppose.

Also I had such high hopes for Lulu and was so sadly disappointed.

Re: Ride the Lightning vs. Master of Puppets

Spyglass — Tue, 10 Nov 2020 20:36:16 GMT

Author: Spyglass

Posted: 11/11/2020 01:36

Stover75 wrote:

I haven't heard either album too many times but I cast my vote for Ride The Lightning.
I was pleasantly surprised to see it with a massive majority. For some reason I thought Master of Puppets would be more popular but there you go.
I just remember liking it.

That's perfectly understandable. MoP gained more attention due to cleaner prodution and likely due to a higher average track average. Maybe RtL was a little too heavy for its time to kick off the same way the lighter album did.

Applerill wrote:

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Lulu by Lou Reed & Metallica

Re: Ride the Lightning vs. Master of Puppets

Fischman — Tue, 10 Nov 2020 20:24:02 GMT

Author: Fischman

Posted: 11/11/2020 01:24

Puppets, although I do like Lightning.

Puppets is so consistent... it may not have as high a point as the highest points on Lightning, but I never feel an urge to skip any track on Puppets while I do get that urge once in a while with Lightning.

Re: Ride the Lightning vs. Master of Puppets

Applerill — Tue, 10 Nov 2020 19:59:20 GMT

Author: Applerill

Posted: 11/11/2020 00:59

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Lulu by Lou Reed & Metallica

Re: Ride the Lightning vs. Master of Puppets

CharlieBarley — Tue, 10 Nov 2020 19:51:27 GMT

Author: CharlieBarley

Posted: 11/11/2020 00:51

I haven't heard either album too many times but I cast my vote for Ride The Lightning.
I was pleasantly surprised to see it with a massive majority. For some reason I thought Master of Puppets would be more popular but there you go.
I just remember liking it.

Re: Ride the Lightning vs. Master of Puppets

Anonymous — Tue, 10 Nov 2020 18:05:25 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 11/10/2020 23:05

Haven't listened to a Metallica record in a long ass time but I'm also firmly in the Ride the Lightning camp between the two. RTL is just far stronger and more consistent record. It thrashes harder, drops the bloated prog elements and has a more defined atmosphere that lets me enjoy the world they make more.

Re: Ride the Lightning vs. Master of Puppets

EyeKanFly — Tue, 10 Nov 2020 17:51:10 GMT

Author: EyeKanFly

Posted: 11/10/2020 22:51

RtL gets me amped and pumps me up. MoP... doesn't. Not that all music needs to pump me up, but I've always thought that MoP sort of lacks for a metal album, while remaining a pretty solid prog album. Even apples to oranges, RtL is leagues ahead in my ears.

Re: Ride the Lightning vs. Master of Puppets

LedZep — Tue, 10 Nov 2020 14:12:24 GMT

Author: LedZep

Posted: 11/10/2020 19:12

I think RtL is the consensus among "serious" metal listeners as well. I don't think there's much to separate the two in the end.

Re: Ride the Lightning vs. Master of Puppets

CA Dreamin — Tue, 10 Nov 2020 12:48:17 GMT

Author: CA Dreamin

Posted: 11/10/2020 17:48

Ride the Lightning is better. MoP, while still good, was the beginning of their decline, as song structures were becoming increasingly long-winded, bloated, and predictable, steering away from the elements that made KeA and RtL so enjoyable to listen to. RtL is straightforward, fun, and raw. It's shorter and tighter than MoP. I prefer Tracks 2, 3, and 4 off RtL over anything on MoP. RtL is better, that's a no-brainer for me.