Best Ever Albums

Re: planetneutral's Master Rating Log 2021-

dgold — Fri, 26 Nov 2021 16:27:15 GMT

Author: dgold

Posted: 11/26/2021 21:27

It looks like I have my work cut-out for me. 🧱

Pardon, BRB AFK, I'll be here a while reading this music diary. �'�

Excellent commentary Planetneutral and forum-friends! I just joined today for this thread

Re: planetneutral's Master Rating Log 2021-

RoundTheBend — Sun, 14 Mar 2021 23:36:28 GMT

Author: RoundTheBend

Posted: 03/15/2021 03:36

oh I just realized you finished - congrats!

And I'm glad you spoke from your heart; loved your commentary (albeit, I didn't read it all, so I should say I love the commentary I did read... hehe)

Re: planetneutral's Master Rating Log 2021-

RoundTheBend — Sun, 14 Mar 2021 23:32:44 GMT

Author: RoundTheBend

Posted: 03/15/2021 03:32

dunno if this is a good list of the 1001 albums... but after being deliberate off and on trying to get through it (and it being sometimes incredibly painful) - I'm finally under 100 albums left! (922/1001).

Anyway, I know your project is slightly different, but wanted to celebrate somewhere someone maybe cares... 🤣 .

https://www.listchallenges.com/1001-albums-you-must-hear-before-you-die-2016

Re: planetneutral's Master Rating Log 2021-

planetneutral — Sun, 7 Mar 2021 22:43:21 GMT

Author: planetneutral

Posted: 03/08/2021 03:43

Luigii wrote:

I mean if some of those earlier reviews where on his diary, maybe there could be some conversation. Discovery is a bit of a prime example. Also don't know how you felt of Love Deluxe, but I could see why if you weren't a fan. But in other cases I would give hopefully better recommendations, like I would hit you up with both Bocanada and Siempre Es Hoy from Gustavo Cerati to delve into more Hispanic based music with a more rock and electronic backdrop.

Appreciate the suggestions.

All 500 of the Rolling Stone albums with my comments and ratings are in reverse order here: https://rateyourmusic.com/list/planetne...-complete/

My complete rating log in chronological order is here: https://rateyourmusic.com/list/planetneutral/planetneutrals-master-rating-log/

Re: planetneutral's Master Rating Log 2021-

planetneutral — Sun, 7 Mar 2021 22:31:40 GMT

Author: planetneutral

Posted: 03/08/2021 03:31

baystateoftheart wrote:

Given that Chaka Khan is a pretty legendary musician, they may have been choosing an album of hers to feature, as opposed to the selection being all about the content of this particular album. That sort of reverse engineering is not how I would construct an album list, but oh well. I have enjoyed everything I've heard by Rufus & Chaka Khan though.

Yes, exactly, it's these fairly brazen signs of reverse engineering that I'm really highlighting. The album is OK, but I've always loved the energy of the Stompin' at the Savoy live release, which is in my CD collection. Probably unrealistic of me to hope for a single studio release to be as consistent.

Re: planetneutral's Master Rating Log 2021-

baystateoftheart — Sun, 7 Mar 2021 21:40:53 GMT

Author: baystateoftheart

Posted: 03/08/2021 02:40

planetneutral wrote:

Acknowledged. But there is also little correlation between sales/popularity and significance or merit. Color Me Badd has a triple-platinum album, but Rolling Stone isn't trying to tell me it's one of the 500 greatest albums of all time.

I'd say having a lot of sales/popularity makes an album historically significant - even if it didn't end up being super influential, it's significant to understanding what that era was like. But of course you're right that sales correlate weakly to quality.

Given that Chaka Khan is a pretty legendary musician, they may have been choosing an album of hers to feature, as opposed to the selection being all about the content of this particular album. That sort of reverse engineering is not how I would construct an album list, but oh well. I have enjoyed everything I've heard by Rufus & Chaka Khan though.

Re: planetneutral's Master Rating Log 2021-

Luigii — Sun, 7 Mar 2021 19:12:50 GMT

Author: Luigii

Posted: 03/08/2021 00:12

I mean if some of those earlier reviews where on his diary, maybe there could be some conversation. Discovery is a bit of a prime example. Also don't know how you felt of Love Deluxe, but I could see why if you weren't a fan. But in other cases I would give hopefully better recommendations, like I would hit you up with both Bocanada and Siempre Es Hoy from Gustavo Cerati to delve into more Hispanic based music with a more rock and electronic backdrop.

Re: planetneutral's Master Rating Log 2021-

planetneutral — Sun, 7 Mar 2021 18:55:21 GMT

Author: planetneutral

Posted: 03/07/2021 23:55

baystateoftheart wrote:

Just because the subset of music nerds on this site hasn't rated it much doesn't mean it's insignificant.

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Congrats on finishing the list! Have enjoyed reading about your journey, even if I may disagree a good bit of the time.

Thank you! I knew before I even started the diary that I'm prone to some pretty unpopular takes. I do hesitate a little more now that I know at least a few people will read them. But what good is it being dishonest with myself, right? That said, I'm totally open to reconsidering my crappy takes on anything, since I'd like to enjoy almost anything more than I already do. Tell me I'm wrong, people!

Re: planetneutral's Master Rating Log 2021-

baystateoftheart — Sun, 7 Mar 2021 14:54:31 GMT

Author: baystateoftheart

Posted: 03/07/2021 19:54

planetneutral wrote:

Notes: You're talking about an album with only 20 BEA ratings taking a slot on an all-time great list. Basically an album of no real regard.

Ask Rufus is an incredibly popular album - it went platinum. Just because the subset of music nerds on this site hasn't rated it much doesn't mean it's insignificant.

Congrats on finishing the list! Have enjoyed reading about your journey, even if I may disagree a good bit of the time.

Re: planetneutral's Master Rating Log 2021-

planetneutral — Sun, 7 Mar 2021 14:44:39 GMT

Author: planetneutral

Posted: 03/07/2021 19:44

DommeDamian wrote:

Hope the journey was worth it :P

Mostly...

Re: planetneutral's Master Rating Log 2021-

DommeDamian — Sun, 7 Mar 2021 12:34:17 GMT

Author: DommeDamian

Posted: 03/07/2021 17:34

Hope the journey was worth it 😜

Re: planetneutral's Master Rating Log 2021-

planetneutral — Sun, 7 Mar 2021 11:16:16 GMT

Author: planetneutral

Posted: 03/07/2021 16:16

planetneutral Master Rating Log ID#: 00802
Rating Date: 2021-03-07

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Funeral by Arcade Fire
Year of Release: 1977

Rating: 80

Posted comment: Certainly very good, but not quite as compelling to me as it seems to be to the general album-rating populace.

Notes: I'm on board with the theory that says this placement on the Rolling Stone list was basically trolling the denizens of sites like BEA and RYM.

Just like that, the Rolling Stone 500 (2020 edition) chapter of my music chronicling comes to a close. I'll generate some sort of wrap-up post, after which I honestly could use a break.

Included in...
Rolling Stone 500 Greatest Albums? 2003: N 2012: #151 2020: #500
1001 Albums You Must Hear Before You Die (repeatedly revised 2005-2018)? Y
1,000 Recordings to Hear Before You Die (2008)? N
planetneutral's music collection? Digital
planetneutral's Decade list (min. 70 rating)? #12 of 56

Rating metadata
Rolling Stone 500 Greatest Albums 2020 rating order: #500 of 500 (100% of all items rated - avg. 76.7)
Rolling Stone 500 Greatest Albums 2003/2012/2020 Combined List rating order: #525 of 692 (75.9% of all items rated - avg. 76.5)
1001 Albums You Must Hear Before You Die 2005/2013/2017/2018 Combined List rating order: #585 of 1,078 (54.3% of all items rated - avg. 74.2)
1,000 Recordings to Hear Before You Die rating order: n/a of 1,000 (21.8% of all items rated - avg. 79.5)

Re: planetneutral's Master Rating Log 2021-

planetneutral — Sun, 7 Mar 2021 09:29:46 GMT

Author: planetneutral

Posted: 03/07/2021 14:29

planetneutral Master Rating Log ID#: 00801
Rating Date: 2021-03-07

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Ask Rufus by Rufus & Chaka Khan
Year of Release: 1977

Rating: 65

Posted comment: About a third of this is solid, but the rest is uneven and, by the end, downright ponderous.

Notes: You're talking about an album with only 20 BEA ratings taking a slot on an all-time great list. Basically an album of no real regard.

Included in...
Rolling Stone 500 Greatest Albums? 2003: N 2012: N 2020: #499
1001 Albums You Must Hear Before You Die (repeatedly revised 2005-2018)? N
1,000 Recordings to Hear Before You Die (2008)? N
planetneutral's music collection? N
planetneutral's Decade list (min. 70 rating)? N

Rating metadata
Rolling Stone 500 Greatest Albums 2020 rating order: #499 of 500 (99.8% of all items rated - avg. 76.7)
Rolling Stone 500 Greatest Albums 2003/2012/2020 Combined List rating order: #524 of 692 (75.7% of all items rated - avg. 76.5)
1001 Albums You Must Hear Before You Die 2005/2013/2017/2018 Combined List rating order: n/a of 1,078 (54.1% of all items rated - avg. 74.2)
1,000 Recordings to Hear Before You Die rating order: n/a of 1,000 (21.8% of all items rated - avg. 79.5)

Re: planetneutral's Master Rating Log 2021-

planetneutral — Sun, 7 Mar 2021 08:10:54 GMT

Author: planetneutral

Posted: 03/07/2021 13:10

planetneutral Master Rating Log ID#: 00800
Rating Date: 2021-03-07

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Suicide by Suicide
Year of Release: 1977

Rating: 55

Posted comment: I found this mostly tedious. Like what I imagine the Velvet Underground would sound like if they weren't creative geniuses.

Notes: I'm sure that contrarian take won't generate any unhelpful votes. 😜

Included in...
Rolling Stone 500 Greatest Albums? 2003: #446 2012: #441 2020: #498
1001 Albums You Must Hear Before You Die (repeatedly revised 2005-2018)? Y
1,000 Recordings to Hear Before You Die (2008)? N
planetneutral's music collection? N
planetneutral's Decade list (min. 70 rating)? N

Rating metadata
Rolling Stone 500 Greatest Albums 2020 rating order: #498 of 500 (99.6% of all items rated - avg. 76.7)
Rolling Stone 500 Greatest Albums 2003/2012/2020 Combined List rating order: #523 of 692 (75.6% of all items rated - avg. 76.5)
1001 Albums You Must Hear Before You Die 2005/2013/2017/2018 Combined List rating order: #583 of 1,078 (54.1% of all items rated - avg. 74.2)
1,000 Recordings to Hear Before You Die rating order: n/a of 1,000 (21.8% of all items rated - avg. 79.5)

Re: planetneutral's Master Rating Log 2021-

planetneutral — Sat, 6 Mar 2021 23:33:59 GMT

Author: planetneutral

Posted: 03/07/2021 04:33

planetneutral Master Rating Log ID#: 00799
Rating Date: 2021-03-06

The Indestructible Beat Of Soweto by Various Artists
Year of Release: 1985

Rating: 80

Posted comment: Sounds remarkably fresh and contemporary for a 36-year-old compilation of apartheid-era South African music.

Notes:

Included in...
Rolling Stone 500 Greatest Albums? 2003: N 2012: #388 2020: #497
1001 Albums You Must Hear Before You Die (repeatedly revised 2005-2018)? N
1,000 Recordings to Hear Before You Die (2008)? Y
planetneutral's music collection? N
planetneutral's Decade list (min. 70 rating)? N

Rating metadata
Rolling Stone 500 Greatest Albums 2020 rating order: #497 of 500 (99.4% of all items rated - avg. 76.8 )
Rolling Stone 500 Greatest Albums 2003/2012/2020 Combined List rating order: #522 of 692 (75.4% of all items rated - avg. 76.5)
1001 Albums You Must Hear Before You Die 2005/2013/2017/2018 Combined List rating order: n/a of 1,078 (54.0% of all items rated - avg. 74.2)
1,000 Recordings to Hear Before You Die rating order: #218 of 1,000 (21.8% of all items rated - avg. 79.5)

Re: planetneutral's Master Rating Log 2021-

planetneutral — Sat, 6 Mar 2021 16:39:23 GMT

Author: planetneutral

Posted: 03/06/2021 21:39

planetneutral Master Rating Log ID#: 00798
Rating Date: 2021-03-06

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Dónde Están Los Ladrones? by Shakira
Year of Release: 1998

Rating: 75

Posted comment: I thought more than once "This is what Alanis would have sounded like if she sang in Spanish." Not at all a bad thing.

Notes:

Included in...
Rolling Stone 500 Greatest Albums? 2003: N 2012: N 2020: #496
1001 Albums You Must Hear Before You Die (repeatedly revised 2005-2018)? N
1,000 Recordings to Hear Before You Die (2008)? N
planetneutral's music collection? N
planetneutral's Decade list (min. 70 rating)? N

Rating metadata
Rolling Stone 500 Greatest Albums 2020 rating order: #496 of 500 (99.2% of all items rated - avg. 76.8 )
Rolling Stone 500 Greatest Albums 2003/2012/2020 Combined List rating order: #521 of 692 (75.3% of all items rated - avg. 76.5)
1001 Albums You Must Hear Before You Die 2005/2013/2017/2018 Combined List rating order: n/a of 1,078 (54.0% of all items rated - avg. 74.2)
1,000 Recordings to Hear Before You Die rating order: #217 of 1,000 (21.7% of all items rated - avg. 79.5)

Re: planetneutral's Master Rating Log 2021-

planetneutral — Sat, 6 Mar 2021 16:20:11 GMT

Author: planetneutral

Posted: 03/06/2021 21:20

planetneutral Master Rating Log ID#: 00797
Rating Date: 2021-03-06

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II by Boyz II Men
Year of Release: 1994

Rating: 55

Posted comment: They were plenty talented, but most of this material isn't great.

Notes: Again, seriously, Rolling Stone. Come on.

Included in...
Rolling Stone 500 Greatest Albums? 2003: N 2012: N 2020: #495
1001 Albums You Must Hear Before You Die (repeatedly revised 2005-2018)? N
1,000 Recordings to Hear Before You Die (2008)? N
planetneutral's music collection? N
planetneutral's Decade list (min. 70 rating)? N

Rating metadata
Rolling Stone 500 Greatest Albums 2020 rating order: #495 of 500 (99.0% of all items rated - avg. 76.8 )
Rolling Stone 500 Greatest Albums 2003/2012/2020 Combined List rating order: #520 of 692 (75.1% of all items rated - avg. 76.5)
1001 Albums You Must Hear Before You Die 2005/2013/2017/2018 Combined List rating order: n/a of 1,078 (54.0% of all items rated - avg. 74.2)
1,000 Recordings to Hear Before You Die rating order: n/a of 1,000 (21.6% of all items rated - avg. 79.6)

Re: planetneutral's Master Rating Log 2021-

planetneutral — Sat, 6 Mar 2021 11:43:02 GMT

Author: planetneutral

Posted: 03/06/2021 16:43

planetneutral Master Rating Log ID#: 00796
Rating Date: 2021-03-06

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Presenting The Fabulous Ronettes Featuring Veronica by The Ronettes
Year of Release: 1964

Rating: 70

Posted comment: All good performances and some of these songs are true classics, but this songlist doesn't really excite me when strung together.

Notes: Maybe I'd have been a little more excited by this if I hadn't just listened to Back to Mono, which has 75% of these tracks. With this album, I've hit 75% of the albums that have been on any iteration of the Rolling Stone list.

Included in...
Rolling Stone 500 Greatest Albums? 2003: #427 2012: #422 2020: #494
1001 Albums You Must Hear Before You Die (repeatedly revised 2005-2018)? N
1,000 Recordings to Hear Before You Die (2008)? N
planetneutral's music collection? N
planetneutral's Decade list (min. 70 rating)? #81 of 89

Rating metadata
Rolling Stone 500 Greatest Albums 2020 rating order: #494 of 500 (98.8% of all items rated - avg. 76.8 )
Rolling Stone 500 Greatest Albums 2003/2012/2020 Combined List rating order: #519 of 692 (75.0% of all items rated - avg. 76.6)
1001 Albums You Must Hear Before You Die 2005/2013/2017/2018 Combined List rating order: n/a of 1,078 (54.0% of all items rated - avg. 74.2)
1,000 Recordings to Hear Before You Die rating order: n/a of 1,000 (21.6% of all items rated - avg. 79.6)

Re: planetneutral's Master Rating Log 2021-

planetneutral — Sat, 6 Mar 2021 07:20:22 GMT

Author: planetneutral

Posted: 03/06/2021 12:20

planetneutral Master Rating Log ID#: 00795
Rating Date: 2021-03-06

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Here, My Dear by Marvin Gaye
Year of Release: 1978

Rating: 75

Posted comment: You could decry it as bloated and self-indulgent, lacking in the obvious keeper tracks of his more popular albums, but this drug-fueled personal odyssey is raw and groovy as hell.

Notes: I think I would generally prefer to listen to this over What's Going On. More consistently interesting, especially musically. But it's impossible to deny how good the three classics are from that album and nothing here comes close to that level of cultural resonance.

Included in...
Rolling Stone 500 Greatest Albums? 2003: #462 2012: #456 2020: #493
1001 Albums You Must Hear Before You Die (repeatedly revised 2005-2018)? Y
1,000 Recordings to Hear Before You Die (2008)? N
planetneutral's music collection? N
planetneutral's Decade list (min. 70 rating)? N

Rating metadata
Rolling Stone 500 Greatest Albums 2020 rating order: #493 of 500 (98.6% of all items rated - avg. 76.8 )
Rolling Stone 500 Greatest Albums 2003/2012/2020 Combined List rating order: #518 of 692 (74.9% of all items rated - avg. 76.6)
1001 Albums You Must Hear Before You Die 2005/2013/2017/2018 Combined List rating order: #582 of 1,078 (54.0% of all items rated - avg. 74.2)
1,000 Recordings to Hear Before You Die rating order: n/a of 1,000 (21.6% of all items rated - avg. 79.6)

Re: planetneutral's Master Rating Log 2021-

planetneutral — Fri, 5 Mar 2021 23:08:26 GMT

Author: planetneutral

Posted: 03/06/2021 04:08

planetneutral Master Rating Log ID#: 00794
Rating Date: 2021-03-05

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Nick Of Time by Bonnie Raitt
Year of Release: 1989

Rating: 75

Posted comment: Bonnie Raitt's a treasure and there are some great songs here. Not all of them.

Notes:

Included in...
Rolling Stone 500 Greatest Albums? 2003: #229 2012: #230 2020: #492
1001 Albums You Must Hear Before You Die (repeatedly revised 2005-2018)? Y
1,000 Recordings to Hear Before You Die (2008)? N
planetneutral's music collection? N
planetneutral's Decade list (min. 70 rating)? #57 of 94

Rating metadata
Rolling Stone 500 Greatest Albums 2020 rating order: #492 of 500 (98.4% of all items rated - avg. 76.8 )
Rolling Stone 500 Greatest Albums 2003/2012/2020 Combined List rating order: #517 of 692 (74.7% of all items rated - avg. 76.6)
1001 Albums You Must Hear Before You Die 2005/2013/2017/2018 Combined List rating order: #581 of 1,078 (53.9% of all items rated - avg. 74.2)
1,000 Recordings to Hear Before You Die rating order: n/a of 1,000 (21.6% of all items rated - avg. 79.6)