Best Ever Albums

Re: Terrible albums with one amazing song

wizardalien — Sat, 16 Jul 2022 04:30:47 GMT

Author: wizardalien

Posted: 07/16/2022 08:30

DommeDamian wrote:

Ah, I see what you did there. Thank you, that means a lot; the internet would gain if they had more of that attitude. 😄 That angry mob can literally go to any other music-site on the internet about that "album" if they get offended at one-in-a-million opinion of it 🤣
Also I'm glad I gave ya a new word 😉
I have listened to every Coldplay album, and I have the same opinion that their 2000s projects are absolutely amazing and their 2010s material were a mess (besides a few bangers of course). Music of The Spheres imo is their worst album yet, and that's coming from someone who actually enjoyed quite a handful of joints on their 2019 album Everyday Life.

Actually about Radiohead:
Creep is seen as the one piece of brilliance from the otherwise ludicrous Pablo Honey. [imo Creep is average, the album is garbage but it has two great songs on it; the hardrocking opener You and the proto-In Rainbows-esque closer Blow Out]

Lemme give you one more (controversial) one in the personal realm.
Pride is literally the only song that comes close to giving me goosebumps (and it definitely does give it...most of the times) on DAMN., an outright insufferable album that I find it insulting how people can even say something good about it.

Pablo Honey is comfortably in my top 100. To me Creep is probably the 4th or 5th best song off the album. Stop Whispering is in my top 10 songs ever, and Blow Out is in my top 100.

I've not listened to much Kendrick Lamar but I have to say so far I'm not impressed. Listened to Pimp A Butterfly and the only noteworthy song on there is i which is just basically a re-record of a song from the 70s. I may well agree with you on Kendrick Lamar once I spend a bit more time listening to his work.

Re: Terrible albums with one amazing song

SD100852 — Fri, 15 Jul 2022 20:46:37 GMT

Author: SD100852

Posted: 07/16/2022 00:46

DommeDamian wrote:

I get that, but I thought OP's question was about generally criticized albums that have one song being praised like heaven. I could be wrong though.

A new clear example:
The newest Coldplay album (Music of The Spheres) has been ripped to shreds (including me) but the closing 10-minute Coloratura has been held as one of the band's best and one of the 2020's greatest progressive pieces of music.

But in the case that is by personal preference: then I would say How To Disappear Completely is a perfectly great ambient/indie rock song on the absolute offensively pretentious disasterpiece Kid A. Yes I said it.

That Coldplay album was another example I was thinking of when coming up with this discussion, that particular track's average score is way higher than everything else on it and the album has an average score lower than 60 at time of writing (which usually suggests it's not very good at all).

I've seen a couple of tracks off Be Here Now mentioned too, personally I think the only good one on it is 'Stand by Me' which IMO sounds way better when performed live, and probably wouldn't make my top 20 Oasis tracks.

Re: Terrible albums with one amazing song

DommeDamian — Thu, 14 Jul 2022 16:09:37 GMT

Author: DommeDamian

Posted: 07/14/2022 20:09

wizardalien wrote:

I'm not part of the angry mob that will inevitably chase you out of town with pitchforks and torches for holding that opinion!

Re: Terrible albums with one amazing song

CharlieBarley — Wed, 13 Jul 2022 17:21:20 GMT

Author: CharlieBarley

Posted: 07/13/2022 21:21

MadhattanJack wrote:

I personally wouldn't go quite that far, but FWIW I remember reading some guy's blog once where he'd resequenced Presence with "Nobody's Fault" as the leadoff track, and "Achilles Last Stand" as the closer (the full sequence was Nobody's Fault, Hots On, Tea for One, Royal Orleans, For Your Life, Candy Store Rock, Achilles Last Stand). So I listened to it like that, and it was a lot better — I was really surprised at how much better it was. Since then I've had the belief that track sequencing is a genuine art form, almost as important as songwriting itself, if not more so in some cases.

I think the blog has since 404'd itself, but there's a Youtube video.

Link

Sounds great!
Will check it out later

Re: Terrible albums with one amazing song

MadhattanJack — Wed, 13 Jul 2022 16:46:04 GMT

Author: MadhattanJack

Posted: 07/13/2022 20:46

CharlieBarley wrote:

Also, though not perfect, I prefer Led Zep's Presence album to their bloated and boring Physical Graffiti (Kashmir aside).

Re: Terrible albums with one amazing song

CharlieBarley — Wed, 13 Jul 2022 16:20:49 GMT

Author: CharlieBarley

Posted: 07/13/2022 20:20

D' You Know What I Mean? was the great song on Oasis' Be Here Now (bloated) album imho. Not a good album.

Stand By Me was ace too, but has been used to death on a British TV advert.
All Around The World was pants (trash) to me.
Just sounds like Liam whining, as does the much feted Wonderwall. Don't Look Back In Anger is their best song, obvs...

Kid A is very hit and miss for me. The National Anthem is the best song on it I reckon.
But for me it's not a classic album.

And I am going to say it:
Hot Space is a good Queen album.
I enjoy it.
Also, though not perfect, I prefer Led Zep's Presence album to their bloated and boring Physical Graffiti ( Kashmir aside).

Re: Terrible albums with one amazing song

wizardalien — Wed, 13 Jul 2022 12:34:27 GMT

Author: wizardalien

Posted: 07/13/2022 16:34

DommeDamian wrote:

Oh in that case maybe I've missed the point of the thread then.

I've not listened to any Coldplay albums past Ghost Stories, their output just kept getting worse and worse I thought, but maybe I need to try out their recent stuff as overall they are one of the best bands we've produced this century.

Ouch on Kid A though! I cant agree with that. But I want you to know I'm not part of the angry mob that will inevitably chase you out of town with pitchforks and torches for holding that opinion!

Although I do quite like the word disasterpiece. Might have to nick that.

Re: Terrible albums with one amazing song

Anonymous — Wed, 13 Jul 2022 12:28:46 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 07/13/2022 16:28

theblueboy wrote:

I’d say Shape of You from that album works for this. Castle on the Hill is 2nd or 3rd tier U2 imho.

shape of you is just ed sheeran it is stolen melodies and is about his lust this is a sick song ed is a great guy but some of the producers have to much control this is one of the basest of human emotions he is singing about worse than material girl by madonna that is from the rock age at least if you lived in la that was a blast i will not live past the next rock age i am so stoked

Re: Terrible albums with one amazing song

DommeDamian — Wed, 13 Jul 2022 11:15:04 GMT

Author: DommeDamian

Posted: 07/13/2022 15:15

wizardalien wrote:

Yep, not by me though. Too much "We luv deez hoes" and all that nonsense that is everything wrong with rap music. To me Aquemini is far far superior in every aspect.

Re: Terrible albums with one amazing song

Jimmy Dread — Wed, 13 Jul 2022 10:32:26 GMT

Author: Jimmy Dread

Posted: 07/13/2022 14:32

The one that immediately springs to mind is:

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Generation Terrorists by Manic Street Preachers

I actually had a first UK pressing of this in my hand about 3 weeks ago and was all ready to buy it… and then remembered, apart from Motorcycle Emptiness it’s choc-full of filler, hair metal riffs and inscrutable narcissism. I’m sure it has its devotees, but I ain’t one of them.

Re: Terrible albums with one amazing song

wizardalien — Wed, 13 Jul 2022 05:18:39 GMT

Author: wizardalien

Posted: 07/13/2022 09:18

DommeDamian wrote:

But Stankonia, generally, is viewed as a masterpiece that was ahead of its time.

Yep, not by me though. Too much "We luv deez hoes" and all that nonsense that is everything wrong with rap music. To me Aquemini is far far superior in every aspect.

Re: Terrible albums with one amazing song

DommeDamian — Wed, 13 Jul 2022 05:03:00 GMT

Author: DommeDamian

Posted: 07/13/2022 09:03

wizardalien wrote:

First album that comes to mind is Stankonia. For me Ms Jackson is superb but the rest is total trash.

But Stankonia, generally, is viewed as a masterpiece that was ahead of its time.

Re: Terrible albums with one amazing song

Graeme2 — Sat, 9 Jul 2022 15:30:28 GMT

Author: Graeme2

Posted: 07/09/2022 19:30

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A Change Of Heart by Golden Avatar
Not a great album but "time for going home" is fantastic. Sixto Rodriguez meets CSN with a Moog

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Full Circle by Forest (UK)
A decent if not average folky thing but "graveyard" an incredible track

Re: Terrible albums with one amazing song

wizardalien — Sat, 9 Jul 2022 14:58:25 GMT

Author: wizardalien

Posted: 07/09/2022 18:58

First album that comes to mind is Stankonia. For me Ms Jackson is superb but the rest is total trash.

Re: Terrible albums with one amazing song

Fischman — Sat, 9 Jul 2022 14:33:14 GMT

Author: Fischman

Posted: 07/09/2022 18:33

MadhattanJack wrote:

The one that immediately occurs to me is "Achilles' Last Stand" from Led Zeppelin's Presence album. That was a long time ago, though...

I guess the last several U2 albums have been like that too, really.

But Nobody's Fault but Mine is also excellent.

Re: Terrible albums with one amazing song

DommeDamian — Fri, 8 Jul 2022 08:07:31 GMT

Author: DommeDamian

Posted: 07/08/2022 12:07

MadhattanJack wrote:

I agree — you'd have to limit this to albums that were actually anticipated, like the follow-up to a huge blockbuster LP or maybe the first solo album by someone who was in a hugely-successful band, and for which there were actual bad reviews published in actual media outlets. Otherwise, you could probably just list two-thirds of the albums that were ever released, really.

To that end, another example that occurred to me today is "All Around The World" from Oasis's Be Here Now.

True, for personal preference All Around The World is quite frankly one of the most annoying songs I've ever heard, especially from the 90s, bar none.

Re: Terrible albums with one amazing song

MadhattanJack — Thu, 7 Jul 2022 18:54:35 GMT

Author: MadhattanJack

Posted: 07/07/2022 22:54

A Google search on the phrase "good songs on bad albums" returns quite a few articles, most of which are pretty much clickbait, but many of them do agree on "Under Pressure." Others that pop up on multiple lists include "Blue Jean" from Bowie's Tonight album, and "This Is England" from The Clash's Cut The Crap. One of them even claims Radiohead's "Creep" qualifies (i.e., they don't like the rest of Pablo Honey), so that should get a few BEA members up in arms at least. 😄

Also, the redeeming song from Oasis's Be Here Now is apparently supposed to be "Don’t Go Away," not "All Around the World" because the latter is too long. (And it's true, it is in fact too long.) So I guess I was one track off on that one.

Re: Terrible albums with one amazing song

mrmcrook — Thu, 7 Jul 2022 17:10:15 GMT

Author: mrmcrook

Posted: 07/07/2022 21:10

The Triumph Of Steel by Manowar

For me it's this. Always liked Manowar. First track I heard off this was Ride The Dragon. Loved it. So much I instantly went and bought the album. Very disappointed. Some other songs on it's alright but as an album it stinks. Hence I find it only has one decent song.

Re: Terrible albums with one amazing song

pctrooper — Thu, 7 Jul 2022 17:01:28 GMT

Author: pctrooper

Posted: 07/07/2022 21:01

Since I've Been Loving You is maybe my favorite song and definitely superior but I think Tea For One is actually pretty good as well.

Achilles Last Stand is probably my #2 favorite Led Zeppelin song but for me apart from that and Tea for one everything else is some of their worst material.

Re: Terrible albums with one amazing song

AAL2014 — Thu, 7 Jul 2022 15:23:05 GMT

Author: AAL2014

Posted: 07/07/2022 19:23

MadhattanJack wrote:

The one that immediately occurs to me is "Achilles' Last Stand" from Led Zeppelin's Presence album.

This is an excellent choice. Achilles is the only song close to outstanding on that record. I guess Nobody’s Fault is good enough but the rest of the record is bland and way less interesting takes on sounds that defined the band’s previous periods. Tea For One isn’t even dollar store quality compared to Since I’ve Been Loving You.