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Re: 'How the Beatles Destroyed Rock 'N' Roll' by Elijah Wald

Hayden — Mon, 19 Dec 2011 17:41:56 GMT

Author: Hayden

Posted: 12/19/2011 22:41

....Does it ever mention how old this dude is? 😕

Cause if he's in university, I don't really blame him for being wrong. But if he's like, 60-sumfin, and was alive at the time, he has no excuse for being wrong. 😐

Re: 'How the Beatles Destroyed Rock 'N' Roll' by Elijah Wald

alelsupreme — Mon, 19 Dec 2011 13:50:02 GMT

Author: alelsupreme

Posted: 12/19/2011 18:50

Exactly. This guy says the beatles experimentation led to The Velvet Underground (which it definetly didn't) In what world is this a bad one? Sounds to me mlike this guy just has a serious hard on for 60's R&B.

Re: 'How the Beatles Destroyed Rock 'N' Roll' by Elijah Wald

Jackwc — Mon, 19 Dec 2011 13:21:42 GMT

Author: Jackwc

Posted: 12/19/2011 18:21

I hate these fucking music anti-evolutionists and traditionalists... what have we ever gained from living in the past, aside from several wars and the Black Crowes?

Re: 'How the Beatles Destroyed Rock 'N' Roll' by Elijah Wald

alelsupreme — Mon, 19 Dec 2011 12:53:44 GMT

Author: alelsupreme

Posted: 12/19/2011 17:53

Apparently Elijah. Apparently he wants music to never advance past 1962.

Re: 'How the Beatles Destroyed Rock 'N' Roll' by Elijah Wald

Jackwc — Mon, 19 Dec 2011 12:40:22 GMT

Author: Jackwc

Posted: 12/19/2011 17:40

Actually, if anything, the schism between white and black musicians worked out great. All that schism did was CREATE MORE GENRES. Who the fuck doesn't want that?

Re: 'How the Beatles Destroyed Rock 'N' Roll' by Elijah Wald

Facetious — Mon, 19 Dec 2011 11:23:35 GMT

Author: Facetious

Posted: 12/19/2011 16:23

itsit wrote:

Oh fucking hell, another hipster with white guilt.

The original Rock n Roll died by itself, and who cares if The Beatles destroyed whats left, they created so much more.

The other thing that annoys me about this is that it makes it seem like only black people make good music, its acting as if blacks made rock without any input. has this guy forgotten about Jerry lee Lewis, Buddy holly, Elvis Presley and Bill haley, or the fact that rock and roll had two big almost completely white influences in the form of Bluegrass and Country?

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Re: 'How the Beatles Destroyed Rock 'N' Roll' by Elijah Wald

alelsupreme — Mon, 19 Dec 2011 11:07:32 GMT

Author: alelsupreme

Posted: 12/19/2011 16:07

Oh fucking hell, another hipster with white guilt.

The original Rock n Roll died by itself, and who cares if The Beatles destroyed whats left, they created so much more.

The other thing that annoys me about this is that it makes it seem like only black people make good music, its acting as if blacks made rock without any input. has this guy forgotten about Jerry lee Lewis, Buddy holly, Elvis Presley and Bill haley, or the fact that rock and roll had two big almost completely white influences in the form of Bluegrass and Country?

Re: 'How the Beatles Destroyed Rock 'N' Roll' by Elijah Wald

Facetious — Mon, 19 Dec 2011 04:38:54 GMT

Author: Facetious

Posted: 12/19/2011 09:38

Midas wrote:

'How the Beatles Destroyed Rock 'N' Roll' by Elijah Wald

Say You Want a Revolution…
The British Invasion that began with the Beatles' record-setting American debut on the Ed Sullivan Show not only transformed rock 'n' roll but in some ways marked the end of pop music as it had existed for the previous seventy years

Wald explains that the Beatles did in fact destroy rock 'n' roll by creating a schism between white and black music that's only grown farther apart in the decades since the dawn of Beatlemania (see: disco, soul, hip-hop). Like many early rock bands, the Beatles were rooted in the music of Chuck Berry and Little Richard. As the band found its creative voice, its members abandoned their early influences. The results included "the effetely sentimental ballad" "Yesterday," a song that Wald claims "diffused" rock's energy and opened the door for milquetoasts such as Simon and Garfunkel, Crosby, Stills and Nash, Billy Joel and Elton John. With the "Sgt. Pepper" album, the band draped their music "in a robe of arty mystification, opening the way for the Velvet Underground, Pink Floyd, Yes, and Emerson, Lake and Palmer."

"Rather than being a high point of rock," he continues, "the Beatles destroyed rock 'n' roll, turning it from a vibrant (or integrated) dance music into a vehicle for white pap and pretension." And what, again, was so revolutionary about Pat Boone.

Do you think they destroyed Rock and Roll? Well my opinion of course not they actually saved it.

😲 Wow. Just.........wow.

I mean, just how crazy can you get?

Re: 'How the Beatles Destroyed Rock 'N' Roll' by Elijah Wald

Facetious — Mon, 19 Dec 2011 04:37:31 GMT

Author: Facetious

Posted: 12/19/2011 09:37

Jhereko wrote:

GARY wrote:

Piss on Elijah Wood!He can just go f*^k himself! Just another jealous no tallent fool craving attention and in a pathetic attempt to get that attention bashes the Beatles.What a lowlife!

whoa lets leave frodo out of this. this is Elijah Wald, a dickhead hipster desperately seeking attention.

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Re: 'How the Beatles Destroyed Rock 'N' Roll' by Elijah Wald

Anonymous — Mon, 24 Jan 2011 20:35:34 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 01/25/2011 01:35

nah, fuck Elijah Wood! I hate midgets!

Re: 'How the Beatles Destroyed Rock 'N' Roll' by Elijah Wald

Anonymous — Sat, 15 Jan 2011 11:00:42 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 01/15/2011 16:00

GARY wrote:

Piss on Elijah Wood!He can just go f*^k himself! Just another jealous no tallent fool craving attention and in a pathetic attempt to get that attention bashes the Beatles.What a lowlife!

whoa lets leave frodo out of this. this is Elijah Wald, a dickhead hipster desperately seeking attention.

Re: 'How the Beatles Destroyed Rock 'N' Roll' by Elijah Wald

GARY — Fri, 14 Jan 2011 22:54:21 GMT

Author: GARY

Posted: 01/15/2011 03:54

Piss on Elijah Wood!He can just go f*^k himself! Just another jealous no tallent fool craving attention and in a pathetic attempt to get that attention bashes the Beatles.What a lowlife!

Re: 'How the Beatles Destroyed Rock 'N' Roll' by Elijah Wald

Anonymous — Thu, 20 Aug 2009 00:29:55 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 08/20/2009 04:29

Listen to Helter Skelter and then tell me that the Beatles destroyed rock, no doubt they were psychadelic bitches of the 60s, but you have to give them credit for their experimentation

Re: 'How the Beatles Destroyed Rock 'N' Roll' by Elijah Wald

40footwolf — Wed, 19 Aug 2009 18:04:05 GMT

Author: 40footwolf

Posted: 08/19/2009 22:04

So what Elijah is saying is pretty much that the Beatles destroyed rock music by being white people.

That is LITERALLY one of the craziest things I've ever heard.

Re: 'How the Beatles Destroyed Rock 'N' Roll' by Elijah Wald

maxperenchio — Thu, 6 Aug 2009 16:55:31 GMT

Author: maxperenchio

Posted: 08/06/2009 20:55

Ripping on the Beatles is probably the easiest way to get people all worked up enough to read more worthless music criticism.

Re: 'How the Beatles Destroyed Rock 'N' Roll' by Elijah Wald

Elston — Thu, 18 Jun 2009 20:05:35 GMT

Author: Elston

Posted: 06/19/2009 00:05

Amen!

Re: 'How the Beatles Destroyed Rock 'N' Roll' by Elijah Wald

bc1991 — Thu, 18 Jun 2009 13:50:15 GMT

Author: bc1991

Posted: 06/18/2009 17:50

Nothing like gross generalizations, inaccurate descriptions and color stereotyping.

Re: 'How the Beatles Destroyed Rock 'N' Roll' by Elijah Wald

Elston — Wed, 17 Jun 2009 18:09:23 GMT

Author: Elston

Posted: 06/17/2009 22:09

Wow, this Mr. Wald has some stunning theories.

Re: 'How the Beatles Destroyed Rock 'N' Roll' by Elijah Wald

Charicature — Wed, 17 Jun 2009 16:06:18 GMT

Author: Charicature

Posted: 06/17/2009 20:06

Rock & Roll destroyed itself by stagnating, but also by inspiring a later generation of more creative artists. It was a new art form in the 50s, but lack of creative room caused it to produce a lot of sound-alike music by the end of the decade. The world was ripe for The Beatles...although it must be pointed out that their original creative influences were Buddy Holly and the Crickets (from whence came the inspiration for "The Beatles" name) and U.S. country artists like Buck Owens, as well as traditional R&B artists (real rhythym and blues, incidentally, not the pop they've called R&B since the 80s) like Berry.

The Beatles were the big draw, but they weren't the only show in town with a new, non-"black" sound. The Beach Boys, Rolling Stones, Dave Clark Five...these weren't really old style rock and roll. Simon and Garfunkel, incidentally, were already performing together prior to the Beatles, having debuted as "Tom and Jerry" in 1957 and scoring a minor hit.

Really, all the Beatles did was make people much more open to different sounds, ostensibly...but I'd argue that people were already craving it by that point.

Re: 'How the Beatles Destroyed Rock 'N' Roll' by Elijah Wald

RFNAPLES — Wed, 17 Jun 2009 12:21:27 GMT

Author: RFNAPLES

Posted: 06/17/2009 16:21

Yes, to a degree The Beatles closed the chapter on the Rock & Roll/Roots style but seeded the evolution of Alternative/Indie-Rock, Art Rock/Experimental, Dance, Hard Rock, Pop/Rock, Punk/New Wave, Soft Rock, Psychedelic/Garage, Europop, and British Invasion styles.