Best Ever Albums

Re: Top 10+ Music, Movies, and Visual Art of the Week (2020 - 2026)

theredkrayola — Fri, 21 Aug 2026 15:40:45 GMT

Author: theredkrayola

Posted: 08/21/2026 19:40

A couple of observations about Freewheelin’. First, how does Girl from the North Country - a relatively trivial love song more or less plagiarized from an English folk ballad - warrant the same score as the savage and poetic Masters of War and Blowin in the Wind?
Second, it’s interesting to note that it doesn’t feel like Scaruffi’s take on this album is too different from other critics, despite the wildly different ratings. Other critics give it 5 stars, seeing it as a great and revolutionary album. Scaruffi rates it 5/10, seeing it as an album with three great and revolutionary songs surrounded by junk. Two different ways of looking at the same thing.
This does not apply for Revolver, A Rush of Blood to the Head, or probably any other album Scaruffi rates 5/10 that is lauded by critics: a critic who loves A Rush of Blood to the Head has a serious disagreement with Scaruffi. Yet somehow it doesn’t feel like a critic giving Freewheelin 5 stars contradicts Scaruffi very much

Re: Top 10+ Music, Movies, and Visual Art of the Week (2020 - 2026)

AfterHours — Tue, 18 Aug 2026 13:07:20 GMT

Author: AfterHours

Posted: 08/18/2026 17:07

EXPLANATION: WHAT IS THIS LOG??? Go here: https://www.besteveralbums.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=571094#571094

For my criteria page, go here: http://www.besteveralbums.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=15503

To visit my Main lists, go here:
Greatest Classical Music Works: https://www.besteveralbums.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=15098
Greatest Albums (Rock & Jazz): https://www.besteveralbums.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=15276
Greatest Songs/Tracks/Movements: https://www.besteveralbums.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=15246
Greatest Films: https://www.besteveralbums.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=15558
Greatest Paintings, Sculpture and Architecture: https://www.besteveralbums.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=15560
Greatest Works of Art: https://www.besteveralbums.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=16117

Various (in progress) genre lists, listed in order of how recently I've worked on them:
Best Action/Adventure Films: https://www.besteveralbums.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=749761#749761
Best Comedy Films: https://www.besteveralbums.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=748991#748991
Greatest Literature: https://www.besteveralbums.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=691617#691617
Best Teen and/or Coming of Age Films: https://www.besteveralbums.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=683219#683219
Best Gangster and/or Hood Films: https://www.besteveralbums.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=682513#682513
Best Editing/Structure in Film History: https://www.besteveralbums.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=667443#667443
Best Visuals (Color) / Best Visuals (Black and White): https://www.besteveralbums.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=666231#666231
Best Horror Films: https://www.besteveralbums.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=656102#656102
Best Hip Hop/R & B/Soul/Funk Albums: https://www.besteveralbums.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=650323#650323
Best Animated Films: https://www.besteveralbums.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=647884#647884
Best Comic Book/Superhero Films: https://www.besteveralbums.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=646189#646189

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Bold + Italics = Was already listed but recently upgraded/downgraded

Top 10+ Music, Movies, and Visual Art of the Week(s): 8-17-26 - 8-23-26
Nostalghia - Andrei Tarkovsky (1983) …upgraded 8.8+
Piano Sonata No. 32 in C Minor (1822) …probably a slight downgrade to 8.8 (not totally decided, not updated on all lists yet)
Symphony No. 9 in E Minor "From the New World" - Antonin Dvorak (1893) …probably a slight downgrade to 8.8 (not totally decided, not updated on all lists yet)
Symphony No. 3 in E-flat Major "Eroica" - Ludwig van Beethoven (1804) …probably a slight downgrade to 8.8 (not totally decided, not updated on all lists yet)
Elektra - Richard Strauss (1909) …probably a slight downgrade to 8.8 (not totally decided, not updated on all lists yet)
Piano Sonata No. 23 in F Minor "Appassionata" (1805) …probably a slight downgrade to 8.6 (not totally decided, not updated on all lists yet)

Top 10+ SONGS/TRACKS for the Week(s)

FAMILIAR ROCK/JAZZ ALBUMS - RE-RATED:
SEE HERE FOR RECENT UPDATES: https://www.besteveralbums.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=758644#758644

NEWLY LISTENED - ROCK/JAZZ ALBUMS - RATED:

NEWLY LISTENED - CLASSICAL WORKS - RATED:

FAMILIAR CLASSICAL WORKS - RE-RATED:

FAMILIAR SONGS/TRACKS/MOVEMENTS - RE-RATED:

NEWLY LISTENED - SONGS/TRACKS/MOVEMENTS - RATED:

FAMILIAR FILMS - RE-RATED:
SEE HERE FOR RECENT “ACTION/ADVENTURE” UPDATES: https://www.besteveralbums.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=752087#752087

NEWLY WATCHED FILMS - RATED:

FAMILIAR PAINTINGS/VISUAL ART - RE-RATED:
SEE HERE FOR RECENT “PAINTINGS/VISUAL ART” UPDATES:
https://www.besteveralbums.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=753512#753512

NEWLY VIEWED PAINTINGS/VISUAL ART - RATED:

FAMILIAR LITERATURE - RE-RATED:

NEWLY READ LITERATURE - RATED:

Not Rated to /10
Not Rated to /10
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TOP 50 WORKS OF ART OF THE YEAR (2026)
A Love Supreme - John Coltrane (1964)
The Last Supper - Leonardo da Vinci (circa 1495 - 1498) / Santa Maria delle Grazie, Milan, Italy [Painting]
Sistine Chapel Ceiling and The Last Judgment - Michelangelo Buonarroti (1508 - 1512; 1535 - 1541) / Sistine Chapel, Vatican City, Rome, Italy [Painting]
Notre-Dame de Paris - Main construction principally directed under Bishop Maurice de Sully (1163 - 1260, main construction; various additions, updates, restorations thereafter; reconstruction of fleche and roof from fire damages: 2019 - 2024) / Parvis Notre-Dame – Place Jean-Paul-II, Paris, France [Architecture, including Stained Glass and Structural Sculpture]
Through Silver in Blood - Neurosis (1996)[
Rock Bottom - Robert Wyatt (1974)
Have One On Me - Joanna Newsom (2010)
Spirit of Eden - Talk Talk (1988)
Spiderland - Slint (1991)
Suicide - Suicide (1977)
Geek the Girl - Lisa Germano (1994)
Down Colorful Hill - Red House Painters (1992)
Yerself is Steam - Mercury Rev (1991)
St. Peter's Basilica - Principal Architects: Donato Bramante (Original design and began construction of central Greek Cross plan: 1503 - 1514); Michelangelo Buonarroti (Revised plan and construction with updated Greek Cross design heavily informing the final result less the later addition of Maderno's Nave and Facade; revision and main design of the central Dome: 1546 - 1564); Carlo Maderno (Revised to Latin Cross plan with addition of central Nave; addition of Facade: 1603 - 1629); Gian Lorenzo Bernini (Revision of St. Peter's Square, addition of Colonnade: 1656 - 1667) (Building completed and opened by 1626; various revisions and additions thereafter) / Vatican City, Rome, Italy [Architecture, including Structural Sculpture]
The Survivors Suite - Keith Jarrett (1976)
Temple Of The Morning Star - Today is the Day (1997)
Blue - Joni Mitchell (1971)
Remnants of a Deeper Purity - Black Tape for a Blue Girl (1996)
Improvisie - Paul Bley (1971)
The Doors - The Doors (1966)
The Black Saint and the Sinner Lady - Charles Mingus (1963)
Piano Sonata No. 32 in C Minor - Ludwig van Beethoven (1822)
Highway 61 Revisited - Bob Dylan (1965)
The Jazz Composer's Orchestra - Michael Mantler (1968) [aka, "The Jazz Composer’s Orchestra - The Jazz Composer's Orchestra (1968)"]
Y - Pop Group (1979)
Guernica - Pablo Picasso (1937) / Museo Reina Sofía, Madrid, Spain [Painting]
Piano Sonata No. 30 in E Major - Ludwig van Beethoven (1820)
Volunteers - Jefferson Airplane (1969)
Hejira - Joni Mitchell (1976)
A Genuine Tong Funeral - Carla Bley and Gary Burton (1967)
Millions Now Living Will Never Die - Tortoise (1995)
Out to Lunch - Eric Dolphy (1964)
Bad Moon Rising - Sonic Youth (1985)
Fire of Love - Gun Club (1981)
Master Of Puppets - Metallica (1986)
Exile On Main Street - The Rolling Stones (1972)
Sahara – McCoy Tyner (1972)
Good - Morphine (1992)
Fun House - The Stooges (1970)
Lady of the Mirrors - Anthony Davis (1980)
Chartres Cathedral - Master of Chartres (Anonymous French Architect) (early phase of construction from 1120s - circa 1165, with only the crypt, towers and West Facade surviving a fire of 1194; thereafter the main Gothic structure as currently seen was largely established structurally from 1194 - 1221; further completion and details from circa 1221 - circa 1250 with consecration in 1260; various modifications and additions thereafter) / Chartres, France [Architecture, including Stained Glass and Structural Sculpture]
The Velvet Underground and Nico - The Velvet Underground (1966)
Bullet in the Head - John Woo (1990)
Faust - Faust (1971)
Salisbury Cathedral

Re: Top 10+ Music, Movies, and Visual Art of the Week (2020 - 2026)

TiggaTrigga — Sun, 16 Aug 2026 13:18:06 GMT

Author: TiggaTrigga

Posted: 08/16/2026 17:18

DommeDamian wrote:

TiggaTrigga wrote:

AfterHours wrote:

TiggaTrigga wrote:

AfterHours wrote:

Thanks - Im more focused on other genres/subgenres but I still may get to those this round

Track rating differentials would be tough with both, especially Takes a Nation

Understandable. I'm always unsure which track from It Takes a Nation is "definitively" the best. Maybe Bring the Noise or Louder Than a Bomb. Scaruffi specifically highlights She Watch Channel Zero in some old list but no idea why.

Me as well. Last I revisited (maybe 5 years ago?) I recall the quality being very consistently similar throughout with none standing way above or below the rest. All 3 of those occurred to me as among its best if I had to choose but I would have to revisit to be sure of any of it, including whether or not my upgrade back then to 8.1 would still hold

It truly is one of a kind. Hard to say if any hip hop album will top it, though some have gotten fairly close.

As far as The Marshall Mathers LP goes, Kim is definitely the standout, followed by probably Stan.

No. As far as MMLP goes, I think Public Service Announcement 2000, Kill You, Stan, the Paul skit, Who Knew, the Steve Berman skit, The Way I Am, The Real Slim Shady, Remember Me, I'm Back, Marshall Mathers, the Ken Kaniff skit ( 😎 😎 😎 ), Drug Ballad, Amityville, Bitch Please 2, Kim, Under The Influence and Criminal are the standouts, followed by probably The Kids.

@DommeDamian That's true every song on the album is the best on the album lol

@AfterHours Just listened to some of Public Enemy again and if I had to make a guess, this would be my very very rough ranking. It's amazing how every song (even the short ones) though is pretty expressive in and of itself and contributes to the overall greatness of the album

1. Bring the Noise
2. Night of the Living Baseheads
3. Louder Than a Bomb
4. Rebel Without a Pause
5. Black Steel in the Hour of Chaos
6. Party for Your Right to Fight
7. She Watch Channel Zero?!
8. Terminator X to the Edge of Panic
9. Show Em Whatcha Got
10. Don't Believe the Hype
11. Cold Lampin with Flavor
12. Prophets of Rage
13. Caught, Can We Get a Witness?
14. Mind Terrorist
15. Security of the First World
16. Countdown to Armageddon (which is still a perfect intro for the album that flows great into Bring the Noise)

Re: Top 10+ Music, Movies, and Visual Art of the Week (2020 - 2026)

DommeDamian — Sun, 16 Aug 2026 10:13:43 GMT

Author: DommeDamian

Posted: 08/16/2026 14:13

TiggaTrigga wrote:

AfterHours wrote:

TiggaTrigga wrote:

AfterHours wrote:

Thanks - Im more focused on other genres/subgenres but I still may get to those this round

Track rating differentials would be tough with both, especially Takes a Nation

Re: Top 10+ Music, Movies, and Visual Art of the Week (2020 - 2026)

TiggaTrigga — Sat, 15 Aug 2026 23:28:13 GMT

Author: TiggaTrigga

Posted: 08/16/2026 03:28

AfterHours wrote:

TiggaTrigga wrote:

AfterHours wrote:

Thanks - Im more focused on other genres/subgenres but I still may get to those this round

Track rating differentials would be tough with both, especially Takes a Nation

Re: Top 10+ Music, Movies, and Visual Art of the Week (2020 - 2026)

AfterHours — Sat, 15 Aug 2026 15:21:41 GMT

Author: AfterHours

Posted: 08/15/2026 19:21

TiggaTrigga wrote:

AfterHours wrote:

Thanks - Im more focused on other genres/subgenres but I still may get to those this round

Track rating differentials would be tough with both, especially Takes a Nation

Re: Top 10+ Music, Movies, and Visual Art of the Week (2020 - 2026)

TiggaTrigga — Sat, 15 Aug 2026 15:14:23 GMT

Author: TiggaTrigga

Posted: 08/15/2026 19:14

AfterHours wrote:

Thanks - Im more focused on other genres/subgenres but I still may get to those this round

Track rating differentials would be tough with both, especially Takes a Nation

Re: Top 10+ Music, Movies, and Visual Art of the Week (2020 - 2026)

AfterHours — Sat, 15 Aug 2026 10:06:21 GMT

Author: AfterHours

Posted: 08/15/2026 14:06

TiggaTrigga wrote:

With you currently rating album tracks, I'm curious how you'd rate the songs on one of the all time hip hop greats like Marshall Mathers LP or It Takes a Nation of Millions or something,

Thanks - Im more focused on other genres/subgenres but I still may get to those this round

Track rating differentials would be tough with both, especially Takes a Nation

Re: Top 10+ Music, Movies, and Visual Art of the Week (2020 - 2026)

TiggaTrigga — Fri, 14 Aug 2026 20:16:53 GMT

Author: TiggaTrigga

Posted: 08/15/2026 00:16

With you currently rating album tracks, I'm curious how you'd rate the songs on one of the all time hip hop greats like Marshall Mathers LP or It Takes a Nation of Millions or something,

Re: Top 10+ Music, Movies, and Visual Art of the Week (2020 - 2026)

AfterHours — Thu, 13 Aug 2026 16:48:58 GMT

Author: AfterHours

Posted: 08/13/2026 20:48

EXPLANATION: WHAT IS THIS LOG??? Go here: https://www.besteveralbums.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=571094#571094

For my criteria page, go here: http://www.besteveralbums.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=15503

To visit my Main lists, go here:
Greatest Classical Music Works: https://www.besteveralbums.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=15098
Greatest Albums (Rock & Jazz): https://www.besteveralbums.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=15276
Greatest Songs/Tracks/Movements: https://www.besteveralbums.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=15246
Greatest Films: https://www.besteveralbums.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=15558
Greatest Paintings, Sculpture and Architecture: https://www.besteveralbums.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=15560
Greatest Works of Art: https://www.besteveralbums.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=16117

Various (in progress) genre lists, listed in order of how recently I've worked on them:
Best Action/Adventure Films: https://www.besteveralbums.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=749761#749761
Best Comedy Films: https://www.besteveralbums.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=748991#748991
Greatest Literature: https://www.besteveralbums.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=691617#691617
Best Teen and/or Coming of Age Films: https://www.besteveralbums.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=683219#683219
Best Gangster and/or Hood Films: https://www.besteveralbums.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=682513#682513
Best Editing/Structure in Film History: https://www.besteveralbums.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=667443#667443
Best Visuals (Color) / Best Visuals (Black and White): https://www.besteveralbums.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=666231#666231
Best Horror Films: https://www.besteveralbums.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=656102#656102
Best Hip Hop/R & B/Soul/Funk Albums: https://www.besteveralbums.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=650323#650323
Best Animated Films: https://www.besteveralbums.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=647884#647884
Best Comic Book/Superhero Films: https://www.besteveralbums.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=646189#646189

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Bold + Italics = Was already listed but recently upgraded/downgraded

Top 10+ Music, Movies, and Visual Art of the Week(s): 8-3-26 - 8-16-26
Remnants of a Deeper Purity - Black Tape for a Blue Girl (1996)
Live at Reading - Nirvana (rec: 1992; rel: 2009)
Rock Bottom - Robert Wyatt (1974)
The Velvet Underground & Nico - The Velvet Underground (1966)
Miss America - Mary Margaret O'Hara (1984) [released 1988]
I Could Live in Hope - Low (1994)
Inside Out - John Martyn (1973)
Eye of the Hunter - Brendan Perry (1999)
Machine Gun - Peter Brotzmann (1968)
Rickie Lee Jones - Rickie Lee Jones (1979)
Brilliant Corners - Thelonious Monk (1956)
Kind of Blue - Miles Davis (1959)
Cosmic Interception - Von Lmo (1994)
The Lion and the Cobra - Sinead O'Connor (1987)
Howlin’ Wolf - Howlin’ Wolf (1962)
The "Chirping" Crickets - The Crickets (1957)
My Own Prison - Creed (1997)
A Rush of Blood to the Head - Coldplay (2002)
Bo Diddley - Bo Diddley (rec: 1955-58; rel: 1958) [Compilation]
Automatic For The People - R.E.M (1992)
Rock N' Roll Stage Show - Bill Haley and His Comets (1956)
Revolver - The Beatles (1966)
Rubber Soul - The Beatles (1965)
A Hard Day's Night - The Beatles (1964)
Beatles For Sale - The Beatles (1964)
Help! - The Beatles (1964)
Hot Fuss - The Killers (2007)
Forever Your Girl - Paula Abdul (1988)
Please Please Me - The Beatles (1963)
Meet The Beatles - The Beatles (1963)
With The Beatles - The Beatles (1963)
Out of the Blue - Debbie Gibson (1987)
Spice - Spice Girls (1996)
Music For The People - Marky Mark and the Funky Bunch (1991)
Sugar and Spice - The Searchers (1963)
How Do You Like It? - Gerry and the Pacemakers (1963)
Elvis Presley - Elvis Presley (1956)
Tiffany - Tiffany (1987)
Peter Paul & Mary - Peter Paul & Mary (1962)
Surfin' USA - Beach Boys (1963)
Surfin' Safari - Beach Boys (1962)

Top 10+ SONGS/TRACKS for the Week(s)

FAMILIAR ROCK/JAZZ ALBUMS - RE-RATED:
SEE HERE FOR RECENT UPDATES: https://www.besteveralbums.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=758644#758644

NEWLY LISTENED - ROCK/JAZZ ALBUMS - RATED:

NEWLY LISTENED - CLASSICAL WORKS - RATED:

FAMILIAR CLASSICAL WORKS - RE-RATED:

FAMILIAR SONGS/TRACKS/MOVEMENTS - RE-RATED:

NEWLY LISTENED - SONGS/TRACKS/MOVEMENTS - RATED:

FAMILIAR FILMS - RE-RATED:
SEE HERE FOR RECENT “ACTION/ADVENTURE” UPDATES: https://www.besteveralbums.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=752087#752087

NEWLY WATCHED FILMS - RATED:

FAMILIAR PAINTINGS/VISUAL ART - RE-RATED:
SEE HERE FOR RECENT “PAINTINGS/VISUAL ART” UPDATES:
https://www.besteveralbums.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=753512#753512

NEWLY VIEWED PAINTINGS/VISUAL ART - RATED:

FAMILIAR LITERATURE - RE-RATED:

NEWLY READ LITERATURE - RATED:

Not Rated to /10
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TOP 50 WORKS OF ART OF THE YEAR (2026)
A Love Supreme - John Coltrane (1964)
The Last Supper - Leonardo da Vinci (circa 1495 - 1498) / Santa Maria delle Grazie, Milan, Italy [Painting]
Sistine Chapel Ceiling and The Last Judgment - Michelangelo Buonarroti (1508 - 1512; 1535 - 1541) / Sistine Chapel, Vatican City, Rome, Italy [Painting]
Notre-Dame de Paris - Main construction principally directed under Bishop Maurice de Sully (1163 - 1260, main construction; various additions, updates, restorations thereafter; reconstruction of fleche and roof from fire damages: 2019 - 2024) / Parvis Notre-Dame – Place Jean-Paul-II, Paris, France [Architecture, including Stained Glass and Structural Sculpture]
Through Silver in Blood - Neurosis (1996)
Rock Bottom - Robert Wyatt (1974)
Have One On Me - Joanna Newsom (2010)
Spirit of Eden - Talk Talk (1988)
Spiderland - Slint (1991)
Suicide - Suicide (1977)
Geek the Girl - Lisa Germano (1994)
Down Colorful Hill - Red House Painters (1992)
Yerself is Steam - Mercury Rev (1991)
St. Peter's Basilica - Principal Architects: Donato Bramante (Original design and began construction of central Greek Cross plan: 1503 - 1514); Michelangelo Buonarroti (Revised plan and construction with updated Greek Cross design heavily informing the final result less the later addition of Maderno's Nave and Facade; revision and main design of the central Dome: 1546 - 1564); Carlo Maderno (Revised to Latin Cross plan with addition of central Nave; addition of Facade: 1603 - 1629); Gian Lorenzo Bernini (Revision of St. Peter's Square, addition of Colonnade: 1656 - 1667) (Building completed and opened by 1626; various revisions and additions thereafter) / Vatican City, Rome, Italy [Architecture, including Structural Sculpture]
The Survivors Suite - Keith Jarrett (1976)
Temple Of The Morning Star - Today is the Day (1997)
Blue - Joni Mitchell (1971)
Improvisie - Paul Bley (1971)
The Doors - The Doors (1966)
The Black Saint and the Sinner Lady - Charles Mingus (1963)
Piano Sonata No. 32 in C Minor - Ludwig van Beethoven (1822)
Highway 61 Revisited - Bob Dylan (1965)
The Jazz Composer's Orchestra - Michael Mantler (1968) [aka, "The Jazz Composer’s Orchestra - The Jazz Composer's Orchestra (1968)"]
Ys - Joanna Newsom (2006)
Y - Pop Group (1979)
Guernica - Pablo Picasso (1937) / Museo Reina Sofía, Madrid, Spain [Painting]
Piano Sonata No. 30 in E Major - Ludwig van Beethoven (1820)
Volunteers - Jefferson Airplane (1969)
Hejira - Joni Mitchell (1976)
A Genuine Tong Funeral - Carla Bley and Gary Burton (1967)
Millions Now Living Will Never Die - Tortoise (1995)
Out to Lunch - Eric Dolphy (1964)
Bad Moon Rising - Sonic Youth (1985)
Fire of Love - Gun Club (1981)
Master Of Puppets - Metallica (1986)
Exile On Main Street - The Rolling Stones (1972)
Sahara – McCoy Tyner (1972)
Good - Morphine (1992)
Fun House - The Stooges (1970)
Lady of the Mirrors - Anthony Davis (1980)
Chartres Cathedral - Master of Chartres (Anonymous French Architect) (early phase of construction from 1120s - circa 1165, with only the crypt, towers and West Facade surviving a fire of 1194; thereafter the main Gothic structure as currently seen was largely established structurally from 1194 - 1221; further completion and details from circa 1221 - circa 1250 with consecration in 1260; various modifications and additions thereafter) / Chartres, France [Architecture, including Stained Glass and Structural Sculpture]
The Velvet Underground and Nico - The Velvet Underground (1966)
Bullet in the Head - John Woo (1990)
Faust - Faust (1971)
Salisbury Cathedral

Re: Top 10+ Music, Movies, and Visual Art of the Week (2020 - 2026)

AfterHours — Wed, 12 Aug 2026 13:44:36 GMT

Author: AfterHours

Posted: 08/12/2026 17:44

The fact that…

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Don’t take the “hate” too seriously… I’m poking fun at them yes, but also both sides of the argument, simultaneously satirical and serious…

Yes, I think they’re very overrated, and the ratings below ARE what I really think, however I do rate them a little bit better than Scaruffi and do think he (kind of) overstates some of his points even if I feel they are more accurate than not — even where he exaggerates or over-generalizes, I still get what’s “correct” about it and where he is coming from, especially in relation to the rather widespread assertions that they are “clearly the greatest band (artists, etc) of all time” — a very ridiculous notion in my view (sorry here comes added dose of elitism…) if one consumes and compares with the greatest music/art of all time

Note: ratings subject to change. I’ll probably go through a portion, maybe all of the early ones, in two rounds to fine tune… It usually takes me a few Beatles albums to get acclimated to rating, especially their largely superficial early fluff with more and more (hopefully?) accuracy. The energy and melody is of course pretty much its (only) attraction as most of it amounts to very very little “emotional, conceptual, thematic content” behind that (they are by and large pointless little songs, where almost “nothing” of note is experienced, saying literally “nothing” about anything that isn’t a dime a dozen in every single art form, any given year, from almost any random collection of mainstream or chart topping artists one could name — just minor, silly variations of — basically — a very superficial layer of energy and melody about love when you get right down to it — virtually no creative insight, depth, experiential content about…) besides all of it being about almost the same god damn thing over and over again 🫢 This dichotomy (sorta entertaining, occasionally mildly arresting at its very best, cheery energy vs more or less “empty” content) offers very little import, significance, “content” to grasp and to observe, to listen to, with a good sense of a finite rating — basically because there is so little there. In a sense, these very low ratings can be a similar phenomena as the higher ratings (an advancement towards an infinitude of meaning, emotional, conceptual, creative depth) however it is in reverse the lower you go towards an “infinitude” of empty, pointless, superficial emotions, concepts, creativity, minimal significance, minimal depth, increasingly inconsequential … etc.

So in a way they can be similarly difficult to get a qualitative grip on. Maybe these are really just masterpieces on the order of The Divine Comedy after all? 🤥

EARLY ROCK, THE BEATLES AND CONTEMPORARIES (DATE ORDER)

Rock N' Roll Stage Show - Bill Haley and His Comets (1956) 4.5/10 to 5.1/10; 5.1/10 to 5.2/10 / SCARUFFI: unofficial 5/10 from a very old list but no listed ratings in bio or otherwise
Elvis Presley - Elvis Presley (1956) 2.9/10 to 3.2/10 / SCARUFFI: 3/10 Tracks: 1: 3.8 / 2: 3.0 / 3: 3.3 / 4: 3.1 / 5: 3.4 / 6: 2.9 / 7: 2.9 / 8: 2.9 / 9: 2.9 / 10: 2.9 / 11: 3.3 / 12: 3.1
The "Chirping" Crickets - The Crickets (1957) 4.5/10 to 5.8/10 / SCARUFFI: unofficial 6/10 from a very old list but no listed ratings in bio or otherwise
Bo Diddley - Bo Diddley (rec: 1955-58; rel: 1958) [Compilation] 4.9/10 to 5.6/10 / SCARUFFI: unofficial 6/10 from a very old list but no listed ratings in bio or otherwise
After School Session - Chuck Berry (1958) 4.8/10 to 5.7/10 / SCARUFFI: unofficial 6/10 from a very old list but no listed ratings in bio or otherwise
Twist & Shout - The Isley Brothers (1962) 3.3/10 to 3.9/10 / SCARUFFI: unofficial 4/10 from a very old list but no listed ratings in bio or otherwise
Peter Paul & Mary - Peter Paul & Mary (1962) Not Rated to 3.0/10 / SCARUFFI: unofficial 3/10 from a very old list but no listed ratings in bio or otherwise
Howlin’ Wolf - Howlin’ Wolf (1962) Not Rated to 6.2/10 / SCARUFFI: unofficial 6/10 from a very old list but no listed ratings in bio or otherwise
Surfin' Safari - Beach Boys (1962) Maintained 2.8/10 / SCARUFFI: 3/10 Tracks: 1: 3.2 / 2: 3.2 / 3: 2.7 / 4: 2.7 / 5: 2.7 / 6: 2.6 / 7: 2.6 / 8: 2.6 / 9: 2.7 / 10: 2.7 / 11: 2.8 / 12: 2.7
Surfin' USA - Beach Boys (1963) Not Rated to 3.0/10 / SCARUFFI: 3/10 Tracks: 1: 3.5 / 2: 3.1 / 3: 2.9 / 4: 2.5 / 5: 3.1 / 6: 2.9 / 7: 2.8 / 8: 2.5 / 9: 2.6 / 10: 3.1 / 11: 3.1 / 12: 2.9
Please Please Me - The Beatles (1963) 3.5/10 to 3.9/10 / SCARUFFI: 3/10 Tracks: 1: 5.1 / 2: 3.5 / 3: 3.6 / 4: 3.3 / 5: 3.7 / 6: 3.2 / 7: 4.3 / 8: 4.8 / 9: 3.1 / 10: 3.1 / 11: 2.9 / 12: 3.7 / 13: 3.0 / 14: 4.5
The Freewheelin' Bob Dylan - Bob Dylan (1963) 5.5/10 to 5.6/10; 5.6/10 to 5.4/10 / SCARUFFI: 5/10 Tracks: 1: 6.0 / 2: 6.0 / 3: 6.0 / 4: 4.0 / 5: 4.0 / 6: 6.2 / 7: 5.8 / 8: 4.2 / 9: 3.1 / 10: 4.8 / 11: 3.3 / 12: 3.9 / 13: 4.6
Sugar and Spice - The Searchers (1963) TBD … first revisit in years, but probably 3, 3.5, 4… / SCARUFFI: unofficial 3/10 from a very old list but no current bio or listed ratings otherwise
How Do You Like It? - Gerry and the Pacemakers (1963) 3.0/10 to 3.5/10 / SCARUFFI: unofficial 3/10 from a very old list but no current bio or listed ratings otherwise Tracks: 1: 3.8 / 2: 3.5 / 3: 3.1 / 4: 2.9 / 5: 3.1 / 6: 3.1 / 7: 3.4 / 8: 3.0 / 9: 3.2 / 10: 3.5 / 11: 3.5 / 12: 3.2 / 13: 3.4 / 14: 3.6
With The Beatles - The Beatles (1963) 3.7/10 to 3.9/10 / SCARUFFI: 3/10 Tracks: 1: 5.2 / 2: 3.4 / 3: 3.6 / 4: 3.0 / 5: 3.6 / 6: 3.3 / 7: 4.8 / 8: 4.2 / 9: 3.2 / 10: 3.0 / 11: 4.3 / 12: 3.1 / 13: 3.0 / 14: 3.7
Meet The Beatles - The Beatles (1963) 4.4/10 to 4.2/10 / SCARUFFI: 4/10 Tracks: 1: 4.1 / 2: 5.1 / 3: 3.6 / 4: 5.2 / 5: 3.4 / 6: 3.6 / 7: 3.0 / 8: 3.6 / 9: 3.3 / 10: 4.2 / 11: 4.3 / 12: 3.0
Surfin’' Bird - The Trashmen (1964) 3.3/10 (WTF??? Must’ve had this confused with some other “surf” album or Trashmen CD when I rated this?) …to 5.9/10 / SCARUFFI: unofficial 6/10 from a very old list but no listed ratings in bio or otherwise
A Hard Day's Night - The Beatles (1964) Maintained 5.2/10 / SCARUFFI: 5/10 Tracks: 1: 6.0 / 2: 4.2 / 3: 3.9 / 4: 3.0 / 5: 4.8 / 6: 4.8 / 7: 5.4 / 8: 5.1 / 9: 4.6 / 10: 4.5 / 11: 5.1 / 12: 4.8 / 13: 5.0
Beatles For Sale - The Beatles (1964) 3.0/10 to 4.3/10; 4.3/10 to 4.4/10 / SCARUFFI: 3/10 1: 5.9 / 2: 4.3 / 3: 4.4 / 4: 4.4 / 5: 4.6 / 6: 4.0 / 7: 3.6 / 8: 5.3 / 9: 3.0 / 10: 3.4 / 11: 3.4 / 12: 4.1 / 13: 3.5 / 14: 3.2
Mr Tambourine Man - Byrds (1965) Maintained 7.0/10 / SCARUFFI: 7/10 Tracks coming
Help! - The Beatles (1965) 4.4/10 to 4.6/10 / SCARUFFI: 3/10 Tracks: 1: 6.1 / 2: 4.2 / 3: 5.5 / 4: 2.9 / 5: 3.0 / 6: 4.5 / 7: 5.8 / 8: 3.2 / 9: 4.6 / 10: 2.9 / 11: 3.4 / 12: 4.1 / 13: 5.8 / 14: 3.8
Rubber Soul - The Beatles (1965) 5.5/10 to 5.4/10 / SCARUFFI: 5/10 Tracks: 1: 5.0 / 2: 5.8 / 3: 4.4 / 4: 5.7 / 5: 4.5 / 6: 4.2 / 7: 5.7 / 8: 3.2 / 9: 5.7 / 10: 4.1 / 11: 5.2 / 12: 4.4 / 13: 5.2 / 14: 5.1
Revolver - The Beatles (1966) Maintained 5.5/10 / SCARUFFI: 5/10 Tracks: 1: 5.8 / 2: 5.8 / 3: 5.8 / 4: 5.1 / 5: 4.0 / 6: 5.1 / 7: 5.1 / 8: 4.0 / 9: 4.5 / 10: 4.4 / 11: 3.8 / 12: 4.5 / 13: 4.5 / 14: 6.8
The Velvet Underground & Nico - The Velvet Underground (1966) Maintained 9.2/10 / SCARUFFI: 9/10 Tracks (maybe … so much their “own art form” that they are difficult to rate): 1: 6.8 / 2: 6.9 / 3: 6.4 / 4: 7.6 / 5: 5.9 / 6: 7.2 / 7: 7.6 / 8: 5.8 / 9: 6.1 / 10: 6.8 / 11: 7.4
For Certain Because - Hollies (1966) Not Rated to 5.8/10; 5.8/10 to 5.4/10 / SCARUFFI: /10
The Monkees - The Monkees (1966) 2.9/10 to 4.7/10 / SCARUFFI: /10
Odessey & Oracle - Zombies (1968) 6.7/10 to ??? TBD / SCARUFFI: 7/10 Tracks…

OTHER UPDATES (RATED ORDER):

Rock Bottom - Robert Wyatt (1974) Maintained 9.5/10 … maybe 9.4, depends on which ratings win out, any given listen, for the tracks… / SCARUFFI: 9.5/10 Tracks: 1: 7.2 / 2: 6.8 or 6.9 / 3: 7.0 or 7.1 / 4+5: 8.5 / 6: 7.5 … fwiw: 1st half, 1-3 = 7.9; 2nd half, 4-6 = 9.0; all combined, cumulative overall quality and score: 9.5 or maybe the highest 9.4
Live at Reading - Nirvana (rec: 1992; rel: 2009) Not Rated to 7.6/10
Live - Built to Spill (rec: 1999; rel: 2000) Not Rated to 7.4/10 / SCARUFFI: 7/10
Keep It Like A Secret - Built to Spill (1998) Not Rated to 7.2/10 / SCARUFFI: 7/10
You in Reverse - Built to Spill (2009) Not Rated to 7.1/10 / SCARUFFI: 7/10
Ultimate Alternative Wavers - Built to Spill (1993) Not Rated to 7.0/10 / SCARUFFI: 7/10
Physical Graffiti - Led Zeppelin (1975) 6.3/10 to 6.7/10, possibly 6.8+ SCARUFFI: 6.5/10
Moving Pictures - Rush (1981) Not Rated to 6.7/10 / SCARUFFI: 6.5/10
A Farewell to Kings - Rush (1977) Not Rated to 6.5/10 / SCARUFFI: 6.5/10
Caress of Steel - Rush (1976) Not Rated to 6.3/10 / SCARUFFI: 6.5/10
Jar of Flies - Alice In Chains (1993) 6.0/10 to 6.2/10 … very possibly 6.3+ / SCARUFFI: 6/10
Alice In Chains - Alice In Chains (1995) 5.5/10 to 6.1/10 / SCARUFFI: 6/10
Sea Change - Beck (2002) 5.8/10 to 6.1/10 / SCARUFFI: 6/10
Fly By Night - Rush (1975) Not Rated to 6.0/10 / SCARUFFI: 6/10
DAMN - Kendrick Lamar (2017) 5.4/10 to 5.9/10 / SCARUFFI: 6/10
Frogstomp - Silverchair (1995) Not Rated to 5.9/10 / SCARUFFI: 6/10
Automatic For The People - R.E.M (1992) 5.6/10 to 5.7/10; 5.7/10 to 5.8/10 / SCARUFFI: 5/10 Tracks 1: 6.3 / 2: 5.6 / 3: 5.1 / 4: 5.5 / 5: 4.0 / 6: 5.3 / 7: 4.1 / 8: 4.8 / 9: 4.3 / 10: 5.3 / 11: 5.8 / 12: 5.6
My Own Prison - Creed (1997) 5.4/10 to 5.8/10 … apologies to all who trusted me to remain hip and legit, the only valid explanation and excuse for giving in to this must be that I am old enough to miss the 90s… / SCARUFFI: 6/10 Tracks 1: 5.8 / 2: 5.1 / 3: 5.0 / 4: 5.5 / 5: 4.8 / 6: 4.9 / 7: 5.1 / 8: 5.0 / 9: 5.0 / 10: 4.5
In Rainbows - Radiohead (2007) 5.3/10 to 5.7/10 / SCARUFFI: 5/10
Ancient Melodies of the Future - Built to Spill (2001) Not Rated to 5.7/10 / SCARUFFI: 5.5/10
A Rush of Blood to the Head - Coldplay (2002) 5.1/10 to 5.6/10; 5.6/10 to 5.7/10 / SCARUFFI: 5/10 Tracks: 1: 6.0 / 2: 5.3 / 3: 4.4 / 4: 5.1 / 5: 6.3 / 6: 5.0 / 7: 5.3 / 8: 4.5 / 9: 4.8 / 10: 4.2 / 11: 4.3
Hemispheres - Rush (1978) Not Rated to 5.6/10 / SCARUFFI: 5.5/10
Hot Fuss - The Killers (2007) 5.2/10 to 5.4/10
There's Nothing Wrong With Love - Built to Spill (1994) Not Rated to 5.3/10 / SCARUFFI: 5/10
Rush - Rush (1974) Not Rated to 5.2/10 / SCARUFFI: 5/10
Please Hammer Don't Hurt 'Em - MC Hammer (1990) 3.1/10 to 5.0/10 / SCARUFFI: 5/10
Let's Get It Started - MC Hammer (1988) Maintained 4.8/10 / SCARUFFI: 5/10
Human Clay - Creed (1999) Not Rated to 4.7/10 / SCARUFFI: 4/10
The State - Nickelback (2000) 2.5/10 to 4.5/10 / SCARUFFI: 5/10
Forever Your Girl - Paula Abdul (1988) Maintained 4.4/10
The Fame - Lady Gaga (2008) Not Rated to 4.2/10 / SCARUFFI: 4/10
Out of the Blue - Debbie Gibson (1987) Maintained 3.9/10
Too Legit to Quit - MC Hammer (1991) Not Rated to 3.8/10 / SCARUFFI: 4/10
Spice - Spice Girls (1996) 2.9/10 to 3.8/10
Music For The People - Marky Mark and the Funky Bunch (1991) 2.3/10 to 3.7/10 … so noisily, artificial, and puffed-out-chest-bravado-terrible, that it approaches being almost good (ironically, comically) by sheer force of will … its also hilariously unclear if it’s an intentional joke, even diametrically offensive and racist, or just an artist loudly and completely unaware of his lack of talent and fake social consciousness … does any of that make this the “Trout Mask Replica of Pop Rap” all hip hop fans have been begging for? Scaruffi’s first 9/10 of hip hop?
Tiffany - Tiffany (1987) 2.6/10 to 3.1/10 Tracks: 1: 2.9 / 2: 3.8 / 3: 2.8 / 4: 2.7 / 5: 3.1 / 6: 2.8 / 7: 2.8 / 8: 2.7 / 9: 3.3 / 10: 3.2

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Re: Top 10+ Music, Movies, and Visual Art of the Week (2020 - 2026)

MadhattanJack — Wed, 12 Aug 2026 03:07:30 GMT

Author: MadhattanJack

Posted: 08/12/2026 07:07

DommeDamian wrote:

Yo yo my favorite rapper Captain Beefheart, maaan. You'on wanna start no beef with Beefheart, he's got beef in 'is heart against society.

In case anyone wasn't aware, I think about a year or so ago they made Trout Mask Replica a free download on Bandcamp. My immediate assumption was that they wanted more people to use samples from it in in their own musical works, since having the files makes that a fair bit easier, but there are probably lots of other possible explanations, like "they just got tired of having to sell it."

Re: Top 10+ Music, Movies, and Visual Art of the Week (2020 - 2026)

DommeDamian — Tue, 11 Aug 2026 08:35:04 GMT

Author: DommeDamian

Posted: 08/11/2026 12:35

AfterHours wrote:

@Tigga

See? Better represented than you thought!

Greatest Hip Hop All Time

9.4: Trout Mask Replica - Captain Beefheart (1969)
8.9: Y - The Pop Group (1979)
8.5: Highway 61 Revisited - Bob Dylan (1965)
8.3: Fresh Fruit For Rotting Vegetables - Dead Kennedy's (1980)
8.2: Double Nickels on the Dime - Minutemen (1984)
8.1: It Takes A Nation of Millions To Hold Us Back - Public Enemy (1988)
8.0: Consumer Revolt - Cop Shoot Cop (1990)
7.9: Frizzle Fry - Primus (1990)
7.9: Roots - Sepultura (1995)
7.9: For How Much Longer Do We Tolerate Mass Murder? - The Pop Group (1980)
7.8: White Noise - Cop Shoot Cop (1991)
7.7: I Lie Here Buried With My Rings and My Dresses - Backxwash (2021)
7.6: The Clash - The Clash (1977)
7.6: 77 - Talking Heads (1977)
7.6: The Marshall Mathers LP - Eminem (2000)
7.6: Church Gone Wild/Chirpin' Hard - Hella (2005)
7.6: Fear of Music - Talking Heads (1979)
7.6: Tetsuo & Youth - Lupe Fiasco (2015)
7.5: Korn - Korn (1994)
7.5: The College Dropout - Kanye West (2004)
7.5: My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy - Kanye West (2010)
7.4: Remain in Light - Talking Heads (1980)
7.4: Summertime '06 - Vince Staples (2015)
7.4: Smoke In The Shadows - Lydia Lunch (2004)
7.4: Rage Against the Machine - Rage Against the Machine (1992)
7.4: Clouddead - Clouddead
7.3: Delete Yourself - Atari Teenage Riot (1995)
7.3: The Cold Vein - Cannibal Ox (2001)
7.3: The Miseducation of Lauryn Hill - Lauryn Hill (1998)

You forgot:
Rock Bottom: in Little Red Riding Hood Hit The Hood, the music is rapping and Robert don't like it, so he says "stoooop it"
Suicide: Rev's electro-beats and Alan is talking and making screams as adlibs, basically rap........right?
Spiderland: same as Suicide, just more reserved
White Light/White Heat: "sucking on my ding dong" out of context could be a rap lyric.
The Downward Spiral: Reznor rapper with industrial music reminiscent of hip hop grooves.
For Alto: he is rapping, but through a saxophone.
In The Court of The Crimson King: first song was sampled in Power, by Kanye West, who's a rapper.
Days of Wine And Roses: the drummer made an insane solo album playing with tapes. You know who else plays with tapes? That's right. DJs. Which is rap.
Slow Deep And Hard: this is metal. Metal is music. Rap is music. Therefore this is rap. 🤣

Re: Top 10+ Music, Movies, and Visual Art of the Week (2020 - 2026)

DommeDamian — Tue, 11 Aug 2026 02:39:17 GMT

Author: DommeDamian

Posted: 08/11/2026 06:39

AfterHours wrote:

TiggaTrigga wrote:

AfterHours wrote:

Music For The People - Marky Mark and the Funky Bunch (1991) 2.3/10 to 3.7/10 … so noisily, artificial, and puffed-out-chest-bravado-terrible, that it approaches being almost good (ironically, comically) by sheer force of will … its also hilariously unclear if it’s an intentional joke, even diametrically offensive and racist, or just an artist loudly and completely unaware of his lack of talent and fake social consciousness … does any of that make this the “Trout Mask Replica of Pop Rap” all hip hop fans have been begging for? Scaruffi’s first 9/10 of hip hop?

It could've reached 9/10 territory if it somehow synthesized Public Enemy's It Takes a Nation of Millions, Dalek's Untitled, and maybe Kanye's MBDTF or Impossible Nothing's Phoneminomicon. Those are probably the closest we'll get to a hip hop 9/10. But I think you're right about the lack of talent and fake social consciousness with that guy

Yes!

Or maybe we just haven’t recognized Trout Mask Replica for the Southern Hip Hop album that it really is? :wink:

Yo yo my favorite rapper Captain Beefheart, maaan. You'on wanna start no beef with Beefheart, he's got beef in 'is heart against society.

Re: Top 10+ Music, Movies, and Visual Art of the Week (2020 - 2026)

AfterHours — Mon, 10 Aug 2026 21:50:16 GMT

Author: AfterHours

Posted: 08/11/2026 01:50

@Tigga

See? Better represented than you thought!

Greatest Hip Hop All Time

9.4: Trout Mask Replica - Captain Beefheart (1969)
8.9: Y - The Pop Group (1979)
8.5: Highway 61 Revisited - Bob Dylan (1965)
8.3: Fresh Fruit For Rotting Vegetables - Dead Kennedy's (1980)
8.2: Double Nickels on the Dime - Minutemen (1984)
8.1: It Takes A Nation of Millions To Hold Us Back - Public Enemy (1988)
8.0: Consumer Revolt - Cop Shoot Cop (1990)
7.9: Frizzle Fry - Primus (1990)
7.9: Roots - Sepultura (1995)
7.9: For How Much Longer Do We Tolerate Mass Murder? - The Pop Group (1980)
7.8: White Noise - Cop Shoot Cop (1991)
7.7: I Lie Here Buried With My Rings and My Dresses - Backxwash (2021)
7.6: The Clash - The Clash (1977)
7.6: 77 - Talking Heads (1977)
7.6: The Marshall Mathers LP - Eminem (2000)
7.6: Church Gone Wild/Chirpin' Hard - Hella (2005)
7.6: Fear of Music - Talking Heads (1979)
7.6: Tetsuo & Youth - Lupe Fiasco (2015)
7.5: Korn - Korn (1994)
7.5: The College Dropout - Kanye West (2004)
7.5: My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy - Kanye West (2010)
7.4: Remain in Light - Talking Heads (1980)
7.4: Summertime '06 - Vince Staples (2015)
7.4: Smoke In The Shadows - Lydia Lunch (2004)
7.4: Rage Against the Machine - Rage Against the Machine (1992)
7.4: Clouddead - Clouddead
7.3: Delete Yourself - Atari Teenage Riot (1995)
7.3: The Cold Vein - Cannibal Ox (2001)
7.3: The Miseducation of Lauryn Hill - Lauryn Hill (1998)

Ok ok ok ok ok fine … a bit of a stretch on many of those…

Obviously I am just kind of amusing myself and don’t really think a lot of those are “hip hop” but it’s an amusing exercise that goes to show that the leap from their actual genres over to hip hop isn’t really all that much if you just think about these for a few seconds plus give it a touch of imagination beyond stricter genre trappings…

Re: Top 10+ Music, Movies, and Visual Art of the Week (2020 - 2026)

AfterHours — Mon, 10 Aug 2026 21:19:11 GMT

Author: AfterHours

Posted: 08/11/2026 01:19

TiggaTrigga wrote:

AfterHours wrote:

Yes!

Or maybe we just haven’t recognized Trout Mask Replica for the Southern Hip Hop album that it really is? 😉

Re: Top 10+ Music, Movies, and Visual Art of the Week (2020 - 2026)

TiggaTrigga — Mon, 10 Aug 2026 19:35:09 GMT

Author: TiggaTrigga

Posted: 08/10/2026 23:35

AfterHours wrote:

Re: Top 10+ Music, Movies, and Visual Art of the Week (2020 - 2026)

AfterHours — Mon, 10 Aug 2026 14:47:07 GMT

Author: AfterHours

Posted: 08/10/2026 18:47

DommeDamian wrote:

Link

Ok nice, Blackbird is a nice little song but were you trying to point out that they copied/transposed a passage of Bach so therefore Blackbird and/or White Album = Mass in B Minor (or Goldberg Variations, Well Tempered Clavier, Tocattas and Fugues … or Bourrée in E minor, etc?) Or that this makes them geniuses of a similar order as Bach or other great Classical composers?

For the record, they pretty much do a similar thing in In My Life…

Bach is a cornerstone of pretty much any pianists/keyboardists repertoire and his music is so fundamentally structural and of a perfect order to so much else, and so much a tenet and exemplar of musical form in general that one could probably just as well find it in Metallicas Master of Puppets album with how formally rhythmic it is and its tendency towards Baroque/Classical/cyclic form…

Or as in The Doors basically updating Bachs harpsichord concerto in Light My Fire…

Re: Top 10+ Music, Movies, and Visual Art of the Week (2020 - 2026)

DommeDamian — Mon, 10 Aug 2026 12:17:22 GMT

Author: DommeDamian

Posted: 08/10/2026 16:17

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Re: Top 10+ Music, Movies, and Visual Art of the Week (2020 - 2026)

DommeDamian — Mon, 10 Aug 2026 12:16:43 GMT

Author: DommeDamian

Posted: 08/10/2026 16:16

AfterHours wrote:

Never heard that album but I do want to say it is greatly exaggerated in general that myself, Scaruffi, “Scaruffists” dont like melody or catchy music.

It would be true to say we don’t tend to favor EMPTY (unearned, lacking emotional content, inconsequential, superficial, lacking meaning…) melodic or catchy music. But this would also hold true for ANY style of music (melodious, catchy or dissonant, chaotic…).

Several of the catchiest works ever populate among the highest or exceptional ratings of my lists whether it be In the Aeroplane Over the Sea (among the catchiest albums ever), Springsteens The River (loaded with passionate, vigorous melody), Lisa Germano, Magnetic Fields, Enos forays into pop, Pink Floyd’s Psych Pop (same category as Sgt Pepper, just more psych, more ferocity, more duality, more unique harmonically, more experimental), even Dead Kennedys (harsh yes, but among the most relentlessly catchy albums ever), Husker Du and The Doors in similar category this regard as DK … Jagged Little Pill, The Band, Roxy Music (practically Art Pop), Cyclops Nuclear Submarine Captain, Love, Dummy, Rickie Lee Jones, Julian Cope, Talking Heads, Underwater Moonlight, Arcade Fire, XTC, Belle and Sebastian, Decemberists, Prince, Stone Roses, Kanye West, Michael Jackson, Janelle Monae, Marvin Gaye, The Clash, Olivia Tremor Control… and so on…

Vivaldi’s Four Seasons, Mozarts Don Giovanni or other Opera or his best Symphonies (greatest melodist ever?) or his numerous Piano Concertos (absolutely supreme melodic examples from multiple varieties, themes, emotions), Schubert 9th, 8th, and other masterworks of piano, lieder… Tchaikovsky Symphonies, Piano concerto, Trio, VC … lots of Beethoven… Brahms… Bach Brandenburgs, VCs… Dvorak 9, 8, 7 etc … and so on…

And all sorts “mainstream” or (more or less) accessible “equivalents” in film/visual arts/Jazz like Chaplin, Nolan, Spielberg, Gilliam, Welles, Hitchcock … or Birth of the Cool, Light as a Feather, early Coltrane, Mingus Ah Um, Brilliant Corner … Visual arts a bit harder to compare but I feature highly the most popular artists ever (Michelangelo, Van Gogh, Leonardo, Rembrandt, Picasso, Bernini, Ruebens to an extent, Caravaggio, Bosch, Dali, Monet, Raphael, Botticelli …Munch Scream … etc) … Frank Lloyd Wright, Gaudi, The Taj Mahal, Notre Dame, Eiffel Tower, Sydney Opera House, Golden Gate … and if you want to hold me to Pop Art even F111 and Portrait of the Bourgeois made it above 7.3!

Okay, sorry, I failed: no Harry Potter or Twilight featured for literature!!! 😄

(Hopefully my rep is salvaged by Vonnegut, Gatsby, Orwell, Carroll, Tolkien…!!! 🙏 )

Longer response in coming but I partially agree partially disagree