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Re: a plea to everyone

RoundTheBend — Tue, 7 Feb 2012 20:05:11 GMT

Author: RoundTheBend

Posted: 02/08/2012 01:05

I am also fairly new to the site, and have varying opinions about this. I was told a time or two: hey this thread again!!! I even was given a link to the other one, but didn't get what they were trying to say until later.

1) looking up an old post and reading through it, usually ends my need to post anything- questions or comments. Maybe that is a good thing, and maybe it would be interesting if at a new time and place the same question came up, but under a slightly different light - and maybe even people have changed over that time, and therefore have a different opinion. Looking up old posts can be fun, but at the same time it robs us of urgency. I really liked the post about do I put down the artists I like, or do I put down the cannon artists - or at least I can agree it is a great album, but maybe not a personal fav. There is a post that is pages long that answered all of those questions and then I decided on my own way- my Best of list is my personal choice and my decade charts are a combination of favs and obvious greats.

2) I have been guilty of starting posts that I thought were clever, but in the end were quite stupid. I may have also posted duplicates because I didn't know there was a search feature.

I know I didn't feel terribly welcomed with some of my posts, but at the same time, I am ok with people not understanding me or thinking the way I do, or they just think I am plain stupid. Like my best bands of the 2000s and how indie music has made being great not so great. That didn't turn out very good. Or my list of active artists that are listed as top 100 artists. I thought that would have been interesting to discuss...flop.

But I do really like talking about music and agree that organization is important. Maybe there could be a form kinda thing to help with posts- like a drop down for catagories, bands, vs questions, discussions on a specific album - and then other for all of the random ones. That'd eliminate the million streams about the Beatles - and might be fun to browse topics (like everything about the BAND: The Beatles - or if I wanted to know nothing about the band, I would seach/click on ALBUMS by the beatles, etc. That sounds like a lot of work though... wonder if purple would be up to it? 😄

Re: a plea to everyone

Captain_Dude — Tue, 7 Feb 2012 18:50:10 GMT

Author: Captain_Dude

Posted: 02/07/2012 23:50

We get a lot of new people in here. New people = new ideas.

Does it really hurt anyone if a new member posts about a subject that was discussed many moons ago?

I teach history. I would really hate to tell one of my students that a point he raised had already been discussed at length by my last semester's class and that he should have checked with the members of that class before asking it in the new class.

We deal with opinions here...those change...even opinions voiced by the same person. It's nice to look back on past threads...but, I certainly wouldn't consider past opinions closure.

As long as anyone greets a new member with a "we already discussed that," the whole place will soon be "thread-bare."

Re: a plea to everyone

HigherThanTheSun — Tue, 7 Feb 2012 10:02:40 GMT

Author: HigherThanTheSun

Posted: 02/07/2012 15:02

albummaster wrote:

No offence taken, and I agree with your points.

(But a little tip with the search: If you check 'search for all terms', your 'worst debuts' search returns 18 matches - which is much better.)

Oh, was sure I'd tried that... sorry.

No wait, I wasn't typing in 'worst debuts', I typed 'worst debut' without the s, which still returns 230 results even when I check 'search for all terms'.

Re: a plea to everyone

albummaster — Tue, 7 Feb 2012 09:53:31 GMT

Author: albummaster

Posted: 02/07/2012 14:53

No offence taken, and I agree with your points.

(But a little tip with the search: If you check 'search for all terms', your 'worst debuts' search returns 18 matches - which is much better.)

Re: a plea to everyone

HigherThanTheSun — Tue, 7 Feb 2012 09:08:05 GMT

Author: HigherThanTheSun

Posted: 02/07/2012 14:08

Yeah the search function is pretty crap, no offense. You type in something quite specific (I typed in 'worst debuts' the other day) and you get over 200 results, you want me to search through all of those before I can carry on?

It's easy to bitch about this when you can see the 'similar topics' at the bottom of each thread but that doesn't exist when you're creating one so it's hard to know if it's been covered before (without searching through 200 threads).

Which is why this is a great idea:

albummaster wrote:

I could also add something to show similar posts when somebody posts a new topic. They can then choose to continue posting their topic (if there isn't anything similar), or they could add their post to an existing topic depending on whether existing matches are found. Not sure why it's such an issue either tbh, and I certainly don't mind a great deal.

Not that I much care about duplicate threads but if it is a big issue for some then this might help stop it.

Re: a plea to everyone

albummaster — Tue, 7 Feb 2012 03:43:17 GMT

Author: albummaster

Posted: 02/07/2012 08:43

Mr. Shankly wrote:

I just tried out the search function for the forums, and maybe I'm not adept at using it (that's quite possible), or maybe it's fairly useless in terms of efficiently finding similar threads? If it's the latter, how about we cut the new members a wee bit of slack?

I think you're right about the search. It's just third-party forum software. It could probably be modified, or I could swap it out for Google site search.

I could also add something to show similar posts when somebody posts a new topic. They can then choose to continue posting their topic (if there isn't anything similar), or they could add their post to an existing topic depending on whether existing matches are found. Not sure why it's such an issue either tbh, and I certainly don't mind a great deal.

Re: a plea to everyone

Mr. Shankly — Tue, 7 Feb 2012 02:23:58 GMT

Author: Mr. Shankly

Posted: 02/07/2012 07:23

mancsoulsister wrote:

Yeah you are right Shankly - sorry :oops:

I was directing this mostly at Purple. It seems like such a silly thing to get all up in arms about.

Re: a plea to everyone

Anonymous — Tue, 7 Feb 2012 01:47:43 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 02/07/2012 06:47

Yeah you are right Shankly - sorry 🫢

Re: a plea to everyone

Mr. Shankly — Tue, 7 Feb 2012 01:30:15 GMT

Author: Mr. Shankly

Posted: 02/07/2012 06:30

I just tried out the search function for the forums, and maybe I'm not adept at using it (that's quite possible), or maybe it's fairly useless in terms of efficiently finding similar threads? If it's the latter, how about we cut the new members a wee bit of slack? Is it really worth bitching about this issue on a daily basis? You've made your point already! 😠

Re: a plea to everyone

Anonymous — Tue, 7 Feb 2012 01:07:33 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 02/07/2012 06:07

purple wrote:

http://www.besteveralbums.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=708&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=20

http://www.besteveralbums.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=3217

Yep when I saw the thread this was the first thing I thought!

Re: a plea to everyone

Anonymous — Tue, 7 Feb 2012 00:55:14 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 02/07/2012 05:55

purple wrote:

http://www.besteveralbums.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=708&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=20

http://www.besteveralbums.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=3217

Yeah, that one's definitely a fair call.

Re: a plea to everyone

Anonymous — Mon, 6 Feb 2012 18:54:44 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 02/06/2012 23:54

http://www.besteveralbums.com/phpBB2/vi...p;start=20

http://www.besteveralbums.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=3217

Re: a plea to everyone

pearljammer13 — Mon, 6 Feb 2012 18:42:14 GMT

Author: pearljammer13

Posted: 02/06/2012 23:42

ShaneSpear wrote:

pearljammer13 wrote:

And to drag in another thread that's been hot lately, my chart has quite a bit of more mainstream stuff (Foo Fighters in the top 10 :shock:), and it seemed like that was a little abnormal too, so I was wondering if I'd get less respect for that.

Honestly, your charts are probably most reflective of MY personal tastes moreso than any other charts including my own. 😮

I also like people who comment a lot on the album pages too, so you're more than alright in my book.

The only thing that perplexs (es?) me is that you're six to seven years younger than me. You must have had a big brother or something.

Wow thanks, good to know others have such a similar taste. You're dead right on the big brother thing. I have a brother 3 years older who got me into many of my favorite bands. Also with some bands, I got into them later when I got old enough and went from their current stuff at the time backwards to their old stuff (I only got into Pearl Jam in the early 2000's, although my Dad bought Ten when it came out).

Re: a plea to everyone

HigherThanTheSun — Mon, 6 Feb 2012 17:46:09 GMT

Author: HigherThanTheSun

Posted: 02/06/2012 22:46

Chemical Smile wrote:

purple wrote:

http://www.besteveralbums.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=3208

http://www.besteveralbums.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=1288&start=0

same user, functionally the same topic. anyone else beginning to see the absurdity yet?

yeah fair enough - it was me! 🫢 tbh i'd forgotten about the older thread, and really, who cares? I just wanted to kick start a hip hop thread!

I like the Hip Hop thread. Like I was gonna search through old threads and dig up one that's a year old (and a different subject anyway).

Re: a plea to everyone

ShaneSpear — Mon, 6 Feb 2012 16:40:26 GMT

Author: ShaneSpear

Posted: 02/06/2012 21:40

pearljammer13 wrote:

Re: a plea to everyone

Chemical Smile — Mon, 6 Feb 2012 16:00:35 GMT

Author: Chemical Smile

Posted: 02/06/2012 21:00

purple wrote:

yeah fair enough - it was me! 🫢 tbh i'd forgotten about the older thread, and really, who cares? I just wanted to kick start a hip hop thread!

Re: a plea to everyone

GARY — Mon, 6 Feb 2012 08:09:06 GMT

Author: GARY

Posted: 02/06/2012 13:09

Eggman/Walrus/Taxman wrote:

HigherThanTheSun wrote:

When I joined this was my biggest problem with getting into the forums. When I started reading them it seemed like there was about 10 or so users that were very tight knit...

I know, right? It IS a big problem.

As with any group there will be a click.

Personally, I don't do clicks, never have and never will.

.

Re: a plea to everyone

Facetious — Mon, 6 Feb 2012 05:16:11 GMT

Author: Facetious

Posted: 02/06/2012 10:16

HigherThanTheSun wrote:

When I joined this was my biggest problem with getting into the forums. When I started reading them it seemed like there was about 10 or so users that were very tight knit...

I know, right? It IS a big problem.

Re: a plea to everyone

Facetious — Mon, 6 Feb 2012 05:16:11 GMT

Author: Facetious

Posted: 02/06/2012 10:16

HigherThanTheSun wrote:

When I joined this was my biggest problem with getting into the forums. When I started reading them it seemed like there was about 10 or so users that were very tight knit...

I know, right? It IS a big problem.

Re: a plea to everyone

Mr. Shankly — Sun, 5 Feb 2012 21:05:00 GMT

Author: Mr. Shankly

Posted: 02/06/2012 02:05

[quote="pearljammer13"]

HigherThanTheSun wrote:

When I joined this was my biggest problem with getting into the forums. When I started reading them it seemed like there was about 10 or so users that were very tight knit...

A lot of members on here haven't actually been here that long (I'd say maybe a year for some), so if you post here a lot, make a chart, comment on people's charts etc, you can become a major part of the community very quickly. As a resident veteran, I've seen it happen time and again. Old users go or spend less time here and new people come in. Again, welcome to both of you! 😎