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Re: First Song Bias

Anonymous — Fri, 22 Aug 2014 20:05:39 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 08/23/2014 00:05

MrIrrelevant wrote:

Has anybody else noticed that first song's rating is normally a bit inflated? Maybe it's because the artist intentionally puts a better song first, but a lot of the time it seems like the song is just "overrated" because it's first.

No Manic Street Preachers album has had the best song first. Well apart from It's Not War Just The End Love, that song was class. Lonesome Day is also best on The Rising. Wuthering Heights is not best on The Kick Inside. Japandroids Celebration Rock no House Of The Built Love is first out. Les Miz... no, Sparks albums? No Sparks album started with the best first until Dick Around showed up.

Yeah something about overrated saying things are overrated just doesn't jive. Artists usually put the best song first.

Re: First Song Bias

Necharsian — Fri, 22 Aug 2014 17:16:27 GMT

Author: Necharsian

Posted: 08/22/2014 21:16

sp4cetiger wrote:

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Re: First Song Bias

Anonymous — Fri, 22 Aug 2014 16:49:04 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 08/22/2014 20:49

Necharsian wrote:

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Re: First Song Bias

Necharsian — Fri, 22 Aug 2014 16:34:21 GMT

Author: Necharsian

Posted: 08/22/2014 20:34

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Re: First Song Bias

Anonymous — Fri, 22 Aug 2014 15:51:57 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 08/22/2014 19:51

MrIrrelevant wrote:

Yep. In fact, the rating tends to drop steadily as the album goes along. Lots of discussion here:

Do albums tend to get worse towards the end?

I'm still not sure how much of this is listener bias and how much is the artist just choosing to put their best stuff early in the album. I really think there's at least a little of both going on.

EDIT: Actually, I looked into the "debut album" bias too:

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Re: First Song Bias

Listmeister — Fri, 22 Aug 2014 15:42:58 GMT

Author: Listmeister

Posted: 08/22/2014 19:42

MrIrrelevant wrote:

Also, there is first album bias IMO. People love artists' first few albums, and then start to hate them saying "they changed".

Which is kind of silly, because even if a band loses youthful passion, they will gain in musical skill. I find that a bands' later albums will be better than their earlier one because they're just better musicians. This assumes they haven't gotten tired or started killing each other.

Re: First Song Bias

MrIrrelevant — Fri, 22 Aug 2014 15:16:33 GMT

Author: MrIrrelevant

Posted: 08/22/2014 19:16

Also, there is first album bias IMO. People love artists' first few albums, and then start to hate them saying "they changed".

First Song Bias

MrIrrelevant — Fri, 22 Aug 2014 15:13:55 GMT

Author: MrIrrelevant

Posted: 08/22/2014 19:13

Has anybody else noticed that first song's rating is normally a bit inflated? Maybe it's because the artist intentionally puts a better song first, but a lot of the time it seems like the song is just "overrated" because it's first.