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Re: Moderator, New Forum for Tournaments

Anonymous — Thu, 25 Sep 2014 11:23:53 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 09/25/2014 15:23

I don't think a tourney forum is necessary. How many non-tourney games do we have going on now? I mean,. I'm sure the interest in those games would raise a little if we had one, but the games forum was made for tournaments. I'd rather see a sports forum, because we get a few of those now and then and I think more sports threads would be a good idea.

Re: Moderator, New Forum for Tournaments

Skinny — Thu, 25 Sep 2014 09:00:10 GMT

Author: Skinny

Posted: 09/25/2014 13:00

It's not something I feel is entirely necessary, but it certainly wouldn't hurt, and people have given some pretty good reasons for splitting the two (potential participants not being able to find the games threads due to them being buried, etc.), so why not? I voted yes. And as for a tournament moderator, I generally think that's a pretty good idea too. One or two people that could just keep things ticking along, and remind users to post polls or whatever. All sounds pretty helpful to me.

Re: Moderator, New Forum for Tournaments

albummaster — Thu, 25 Sep 2014 08:45:43 GMT

Author: albummaster

Posted: 09/25/2014 12:45

ShaneSpear wrote:

I think 2 tournaments at a time is very reasonable, considering they've been a major part of BEA for years now and almost always generate a lot of participation.

I agree with this, I think a maximum of two tournaments at one time is the right level (any more than that just becomes difficult for everyone else to keep on top of). However, tournaments do generate a lot of threads, and I think, for this reason, I'm coming around to the idea of separating tournaments into their own sub-forum which could then be moderated separately by whichever people want to do this. It's far easier to separate out tournaments from games than for any of the other forums (e.g. trying to do the same thing with the Music forum is next to impossible). This would then leave all other games in their own forum where people can follow them more easily.

I think there's more benefit to change things than keeping them the same as it's clearly an issue for quite a few people. However, as suggested in this thread, a vote is in order as I don't think anything should be changed unless there's a consensus.

EDIT: Added a poll to the original post in this thread.

Re: Moderator, New Forum for Tournaments

RockyRaccoon — Wed, 24 Sep 2014 17:55:32 GMT

Author: RockyRaccoon

Posted: 09/24/2014 21:55

satiemaniac wrote:

i think the album/song below/above you thing should just be stickied in the Games forum as a big archive of recommendations back and forth between users since it's not really a "game" per se, but a different way of picking out what one listens to

I'm a fan of this idea

Re: Moderator, New Forum for Tournaments

Anonymous — Wed, 24 Sep 2014 17:34:09 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 09/24/2014 21:34

ShaneSpear wrote:

I just looked at the games forum, and there are still many threads on the page where the last post was "one day ago" (and one even that was "3 days ago")

If you have a game or want to participate in a non-tourney game and keep it at the top...all you have to due is post. When you post, magically the thread is at the top of the forum.

I think 2 tournaments at a time is very reasonable, considering they've been a major part of BEA for years now and almost always generate a lot of participation. To call for a "boycott" for this just because you don't like seeing all the tourney posts (bearing in mind everybody individually has control over the content in the forum by posting/participating/bumping) is silly.

All of this, especially considering that one or more of our tournaments have gone on for over six months...

Re: Moderator, New Forum for Tournaments

ShaneSpear — Wed, 24 Sep 2014 16:11:34 GMT

Author: ShaneSpear

Posted: 09/24/2014 20:11

nutso42 wrote:

Now the Games forum is an afterthought for me since I'm getting bloody sick of seeing something posted and a day later being shoved off the page

Re: Moderator, New Forum for Tournaments

Anonymous — Wed, 24 Sep 2014 14:39:06 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 09/24/2014 18:39

Listmeister wrote:

That's exactly my point. Tournaments have completely taken over the Games Forum. Games don't happen in the Games forum anymore because they're overwhelmed by the volume of Tournament Traffic.

Agree. When I first came to BEA, the Games forum was hopping with original ideas that I'd check out daily. Now the Games forum is an afterthought for me since I'm getting bloody sick of seeing something posted and a day later being shoved off the page by "Best of 1974: Semifinals: Kimono My House v. Rock Bottom
Best Ever Guitarist: Duane Allman vs. Neil Halstead
[Closed] Best Ever Guitarist: Carlos Santana vs. Ira Kaplan
Pokémon tourney #2 : explanations, brackets, etc.
Best of 1974 4BG: Here Come the Warm Jets v. On the Beach"

There's only two things on the Games forum front page that aren't tourneys. I mean seriously, at least restrict it to one at a time.

If we can't get a moderator for the tourneys, at least boycott the tournament thread until the last one is completed.

Re: Moderator, New Forum for Tournaments

Anonymous — Tue, 23 Sep 2014 17:34:14 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 09/23/2014 21:34

when i think of music forum games, i think of either tournaments or that obnoxious, awful game where you + and - artists or albums or whatever until one wins. i think the album/song below/above you thing should just be stickied in the Games forum as a big archive of recommendations back and forth between users since it's not really a "game" per se, but a different way of picking out what one listens to

Re: Moderator, New Forum for Tournaments

Anonymous — Tue, 23 Sep 2014 16:51:04 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 09/23/2014 20:51

Patman360 wrote:

I reckon without the tournaments in the there the games forum would probably become obsolete though, the other games outside of tournaments attract nowhere near as much interest, removing them could kill the games forum.

I don't think so. There are lots of games threads that aren't used regularly simply because of the fact that they are buried. But people do love them. The listen to the album below you thread is pretty well-loved by the people who use it. And I think separating games and tournaments would serve to make them both more prolific. I pretty much agree with Listmeister word for word in this case. I think we should at least try it and if it doesn't work then revert back to how it was, or have a vote, or something.

Re: Moderator, New Forum for Tournaments

Patman360 — Tue, 23 Sep 2014 14:54:27 GMT

Author: Patman360

Posted: 09/23/2014 18:54

Listmeister wrote:

That's exactly my point. Tournaments have completely taken over the Games Forum. Games don't happen in the Games forum anymore because they're overwhelmed by the volume of Tournament Traffic.

Re: Moderator, New Forum for Tournaments

Listmeister — Tue, 23 Sep 2014 13:58:24 GMT

Author: Listmeister

Posted: 09/23/2014 17:58

I hate to be argumentative, but I'm going to anyway.

PatMan360 wrote:

I'm all for a tournament moderator, though I don't think there's a need for a separate tournament forum considering how nearly everything that happens in the games forum is a tournament currently, it's not like there's a whole load of games happening besides tournaments.

That's exactly my point. Tournaments have completely taken over the Games Forum. Games don't happen in the Games forum anymore because they're overwhelmed by the volume of Tournament Traffic.

Romanelli wrote:

Tournaments aren't really an official part of the BEA forums...it's something that people just choose to do.

The suggestion is, let's make it an official part of the BEA forums. I'm sure The Lounge wasn't an official part of the BEA forums, until someone made it an official part of the BEA forums. And then The Lounge was part of the BEA forums. Officially.

Romanelli wrote:

The person who used to kind of oversee the whole thing has been absent a lot lately, so it doesn't get maybe the attention to detail that it used to. But I think that it's ultimately up to the community to keep it together.

Of course, if things do get out of hand, posts can be reported the usual way.

The thing is, it's not the individual posts that are getting out of hand, it's the volume. People are suggesting tournaments, fun tournaments, exciting tournaments, and are getting shouted down on the grounds that there a bunch of other tournaments in line ahead. That's the problem I'm trying to solve.

I'm not asking for added tournament functionality, just for a separate forum.

Re: Moderator, New Forum for Tournaments

creator — Tue, 23 Sep 2014 10:38:56 GMT

Author: creator

Posted: 09/23/2014 14:38

I think the games and tournaments can be together, but I think it'd be nice to have a sub forum for the completed/closed tournament threads. If the original poster could have the ability to move the threads into the closed sub forum, I think we'd be set!

Re: Moderator, New Forum for Tournaments

albummaster — Tue, 23 Sep 2014 09:06:45 GMT

Author: albummaster

Posted: 09/23/2014 13:06

Agree with Romanelli that it isn't an official part of BEA so the functionality hasn't been developed. From BEA's side, I'm not sure what functionality can be implemented to facilitate this (do we really need anything else?). We already have threads in the Games forum that people can use to schedule tournaments and discuss the rules for each one, and people are already taking on the responsibility for running their own tournaments (which run very well considering people are juggling their offline lives around them). However, if one or members want to become the people that tie this all together, I haven't got a problem with this.

Re: Moderator, New Forum for Tournaments

Romanelli — Tue, 23 Sep 2014 08:35:17 GMT

Author: Romanelli

Posted: 09/23/2014 12:35

Tournaments aren't really an official part of the BEA forums...it's something that people just choose to do. The person who used to kind of oversee the whole thing has been absent a lot lately, so it doesn't get maybe the attention to detail that it used to. But I think that it's ultimately up to the community to keep it together.

Of course, if things do get out of hand, posts can be reported the usual way.

I don't think we need either one.

Re: Moderator, New Forum for Tournaments

Patman360 — Mon, 22 Sep 2014 11:42:30 GMT

Author: Patman360

Posted: 09/22/2014 15:42

I'm all for a tournament moderator, though I don't think there's a need for a separate tournament forum considering how nearly everything that happens in the games forum is a tournament currently, it's not like there's a whole load of games happening besides tournaments.

Moderator, New Forum for Tournaments

Listmeister — Mon, 22 Sep 2014 11:03:28 GMT

Author: Listmeister

Posted: 09/22/2014 15:03

It has been suggested at http://www.besteveralbums.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=7470&start=220 that we have a Moderator to take charge of scheduling, queuing, planning, etc. of Tournaments.

It might also be a good idea to have a Tournaments forum separate from the Games forum, which is dominated by the tournaments.

Is this do-able?