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Re: The published lists for 2010

Anonymous — Thu, 23 Dec 2010 03:18:09 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 12/23/2010 08:18

still haven't listened to Joanna Jewsom, Black Keys, Caribou, or Drake. I'm most surprised by Drake's appearance on several charts: is it really that good? I was not impressed at all by the singles from Drake...

Re: The published lists for 2010

Anonymous — Wed, 22 Dec 2010 13:28:00 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 12/22/2010 18:28

http://features.metacritic.com/features/2010/music-critic-top-ten-lists-best-of-2010/

not sure if everyone has seen this (I'm sure a lot of you have) but it is very interesting to look at. It is Metacritic's (the review aggregator) collating of critic's top ten for 2010 and assigning a point system in order to rank the highest rated albums of the year. There is something like 80 lists taken into consideration so far, including the excellent one by Resident Advisor just mentioned..

Re: The published lists for 2010

cartoken — Wed, 22 Dec 2010 12:05:18 GMT

Author: cartoken

Posted: 12/22/2010 17:05

for change, an electronic selection from Resident Advisor :

20. Prins Thomas - Prins Thomas [Full Pupp]
19. The Black Dog - Music for Real Airports [Soma]
18. Lindstrom & Christabelle - Real Life Is No Cool [Smalltown Supersound]
17. Peter Van Hoesen - Entropic City [Time To Express]
16. ASC - Nothing Is Certain [NonPlus+]
15. Darkstar - North [Hyperdub]
14. Bonobo - Black Sands [Ninja Tune]
13. Oneohtrix Point Never - Returnal [Mego]
12. Virgo - Virgo [Rush Hour]
11. LCD Soundsystem - This is Happening [DFA]
10. Matthew Dear - Black City [Ghostly International]
09. Mount Kimbie - Crooks & Lovers [Hotflush]
08. Scuba - Triangulation [Hotflush]
07. Four Tet - There Is Love In You
06. Pantha Du Prince - Black Noise [Rough Trade]
05. John Roberts - Glass Eights [Dial]
04. Actress - Splazsh [Honest Jons]
03. Shed - The Traveller [Ostgut Ton]
02. Flying Lotus - Cosmogramma [Warp]
01. Caribou - Swim [City Slang]

Re: The published lists for 2010

Anonymous — Tue, 21 Dec 2010 18:47:30 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 12/21/2010 23:47

@Mr. Shankly. yeah I've watched some of that needle drop guy's stuff before and I don;t understand the appeal. He doesn't seem very insightful.

Re: The published lists for 2010

Mr. Shankly — Tue, 21 Dec 2010 18:37:35 GMT

Author: Mr. Shankly

Posted: 12/21/2010 23:37

So here's another list and a You Tube channel worth checking out if you like under the radar stuff:

http://www.youtube.com/user/theneedledrop#p/u/2/yWE3o_6l-WA

Re: The published lists for 2010

maxperenchio — Mon, 20 Dec 2010 16:35:29 GMT

Author: maxperenchio

Posted: 12/20/2010 21:35

Ha ha ha. "P4k" is complicated. We all know it isn't exactly what it was a few years ago. The fact that it has grown so influential kind of changed its function from the glue that held together a bunch of fractured indie scenes of bearded weirdos to a sort of lame authoritarian brand and sole taste-maker fraught with its own boring predictable tendencies. Don't get me wrong- as much as I, personally, am at odds with their narrow tastes and generally humorless nature, it's totally necessary that they maintain it for the sake of their brand. After all, they had the foresight to realize that helping break international acts like Arcade Fire and BSS in conjunction with paying attention to fringe local scenes would create a unified homebase for an essentially heterogeneous culture. Throw in some good reviews for select aggressively vapid mainstream hip hop to target some common white-guilt and keep things interesting, and you've got yourself an ideological force capable of attracting any girl with bangs.

Align yourself ideologically with brands like Urban Outfitters, and watch your little engine-that-could propitiously navigate to high school football parties and sorority houses everywhere! Before you know it you have Flunitrazepam-addled girls named Lauren and Tiffany arguing the merits of Karen O's stage banter, and screaming "That's Not My Name!" as they refill the cups. It's a genius operation they got over there; you'll always be successful if you successfully market non-conformity. And someone mentioned it before, if you have the Kanye-effect on yourside, where even your enemies are obsessively whispering about it, you have a very valuable power in your hands.

Anyways, I don't keep up with it anymore. I found that once I admitted I don't have cool or "correct" tastes everything got a lot easier and more fun. IMO their ideology generally sacrifices great songs for cool textures, very generally speaking (there are a lot of staffers there by now). And who the hell values them as an authority on urban music? That still slays me. I'll still read Allmusic.com in a heartbeat over P4k, but I will probably still follow their business ventures because it's interesting to me. At the end of the day my qualms with P4k aren't too different from my qualms with music criticism in general (bad English majors writing about MUSIC!) and I wish them the best. Vampire Weekend still sucks though.

Re: The published lists for 2010

Anonymous — Mon, 20 Dec 2010 12:24:01 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 12/20/2010 17:24

Pitchfork is fucking gay, and anyone who reads that shit simultaneously looks down at their dick to make sure it's not too small; they'll all grow up to be serial killers and shit. I mean, who the fuck is Deerhunter or Ariel Pink, the movie was better and get a name that doesn't sound like a pornstar, bitch. Everyone always be checkin' Pitchfork to reassure themselves that the shit no one else wants to hear is good, they might as well be checkin' their asshole to make sure they weren't abused as a child... I don't know, shit, what do you think max?

Re: The published lists for 2010

sleepwalker87 — Mon, 20 Dec 2010 10:47:42 GMT

Author: sleepwalker87

Posted: 12/20/2010 15:47

I loved Pitchfork when I first found out about it. Then I started to really hate it. And now I’ve come to some sort of complacent medium.

For me, the critics on the site are more interested in sounding smart, using colorful words, and being funny than in actually telling you what they think of an album. I’ve noticed that their reviews can usually be condensed into one or two paragraphs, instead of the three to five paragraphs you usually get.

That being said, I often agree with their opinions, and occasionally, they reveal things about an album I hadn’t previously considered. I like the layout of their site, compared to that of other music sites, and I find that they report news about artists I actually care about.

I don’t think too much about the reviews themselves, though; I only read a review after I’m familiar with an album, because otherwise, it’s difficult for me to hear the music without thinking about what critics have said about it. It’s a serious problem I have, but that’s how it is. I use the site mainly for news, actually.

Love them or hate them, I think the people at Pitchfork are getting just what they want – music-lovers like us to talk about them and their opinions. Kind of a Kanye strategy. But now we’re critiquing the critics… and critiquing each other’s critiques of the critics. One would think it has to stop somewhere…

Anyway, regarding Pitchfork’s list, I was amazed to see The Suburbs so low, but I was really happy to see The Monitor so high. Kind of a surprising list. The end.

Re: The published lists for 2010

Anonymous — Mon, 20 Dec 2010 02:17:13 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 12/20/2010 07:17

lethalnezzle wrote:

Pitchfork is ok. No better than you or me when it comes to music judgement.

very well put. I think this goes for every critic.

lethalnezzle wrote:

Maybe they'll realise the new Kanye album wasn't that good.

or maybe you'll realise it was (hopefully).

Re: The published lists for 2010

Anonymous — Sun, 19 Dec 2010 20:51:33 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 12/20/2010 01:51

Pitchfork is ok. No better than you or me when it comes to music judgement. Their list is poor. Maybe next year it will be better. Maybe they'll realise the new Kanye album wasn't that good. Maybe they'll realise the 'Tron OST' was far better than 5.5. Maybe they'll give Ghost the 9+ his new album deserves. It always makes for an interesting read, and I tend to agree with them when it comes to James Blake and Pavement amongst others. I can't understand how Drake and Gucci Mane both got 8+. I certainly can't understand how they missed Roc Marcy's album out of their list, especially after giving 8+ earlier in the year. But they're just another music site. I treat them like I treat the Bible. Take them both with a pinch of salt.

Re: The published lists for 2010

maxperenchio — Sun, 19 Dec 2010 20:34:35 GMT

Author: maxperenchio

Posted: 12/20/2010 01:34

40footwolf wrote:

I feel like blind allegiance to an online zine that serves as a Rolling Stone Magazine substitute for people with fixie bikes is a poor way to expand your musical horizons. Your own judgement should come first no matter what.

Hahaha. Fixie bikes. I mean, as grumpy as you sound here, wolf, so true. Anyone wanna start an old-school heated Pitchfork bashing thread, y'know, rustle some feathers up 'roundheya?

Re: The published lists for 2010

thomas697 — Sun, 19 Dec 2010 01:31:06 GMT

Author: thomas697

Posted: 12/19/2010 06:31

40footwolf wrote:

thomas697 wrote:

Jhereko wrote:

thomas697 wrote:

Jhereko wrote:

Pitchfork's Top 50 Of 2010

1 My Beautiful Dark Fantasy - Kanye West
2 This Is Happening - LCD Soundsystem
3 Halcyon Digest - Deerhunter
4 Sir Lucious Left Foot: The Son Of Chico Dusty - Big Boi
5 Teen Dream - Beach House
6 Contra - Vampire Weekend
7 Have One On Me - Joanna Newsom
8 The Bells Sketch EP/CMYK EP/Klavierwerke EP - James Blake
9 Before Today - Ariel Pink's Haunted Graffiti
10 The Monitor - Titus Andronicus
11 The Suburbs - Arcade Fire
12 The Archandroid - Janelle Monae
13 Everything In Between - No Age
14 Cosmogramma - Flying Lotus
15 Body Talk - Robyn
16 Treats - Sleigh Bells
17 Swim - Caribou
18 New Amerykah Part Two: Return Of The Ankh
19 Love Remains - How To Dress Well
20 Returnal - Oneohtrix Point Never
21 Lisbon - The Walkmen
22 Broken Dreams Club EP - Girls
23 Sit Down, Man - Das Racist
24 One Life Stand - Hot Chip
25 The Age Of Adz - Sufjan Stevens
26 Forget - Twin Shadow
27 There Is Love In You - Four Tet
28 High Violet - The National
29 Play It Strange - The Fresh And Onlys
30 Love King - The-Dream
31 At Echo Lake - Woods
32 Bastard - Tyler, The Creator
33 The Wild Hunt - The Tallest Man On Earth
34 Crystal Castles - Crystal Castles
35 Plastic Beach - Gorillaz
36 Does It Look Like I'm Here - Emeralds
37 Stridulum EP - Zola Jesus
38 Teflon Don - Rick Ross
39 Crazy For You - Best Coast
40 Crush - Abe Vigoda
41 Subiza - Delorean
42 Thank Me Later - Drake
43 Innerspeaker - Tame Impala
44 Spiral Shadow - Kylesa
45 I'm New Here - Gil Scott-Heron
46 Black City - Matthew Dear
47 Public Strain - Women
48 Dagger Paths - Forest Swords
49 Gemini - Wild Nothing
50 King Of The Beach - Wavves

Naturally disagree with a lot of their ordering but my biggest gripe is that they fucked over 'Heartland' and 'The Golden Archipelago'. Also 'Sisterworld' got snubbed as an honorary mention and 'Gemini', 'Thank Me Later' and the humongous crap that is 'Crazy For You' got in. Glad to see 'High Violet' didn't touch the top 20. But I don't get why P4k have such a boner for James Blake. Anyway thats my 2 cents.

This is the list that ive been waiting for. Sorry that you have your gripes with it, but for me this is the be all and end all of annual music lists. In Pitchfork I Trust.

no i agree they're probably one of the better if not the best music publications out there. I think that's why I have way more specific gripes with their lists than any other critics. I expect a lot from them.

ha ha fair enough. The way I see it is, if I disagree with pitchfork, it's because I am wrong and I dont see it yet. but yeah, lists for this year are going to be a bit wonky because lets face it, it wasnt a fantastic year for music, so not many lists will be satisfying.

It's a bit of levity .. cheer up

Re: The published lists for 2010

40footwolf — Sat, 18 Dec 2010 22:18:06 GMT

Author: 40footwolf

Posted: 12/19/2010 03:18

thomas697 wrote:

Jhereko wrote:

thomas697 wrote:

Jhereko wrote:

This is the list that ive been waiting for. Sorry that you have your gripes with it, but for me this is the be all and end all of annual music lists. In Pitchfork I Trust.

Re: The published lists for 2010

Anonymous — Sat, 18 Dec 2010 19:43:52 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 12/19/2010 00:43

thomas, you know I love pitchfork too and highly trust their ratings (I automatically buy their 9.0+ rated albums even if I've never heard of the artist) but the above comment is an exercise in douche-baggery

Re: The published lists for 2010

thomas697 — Sat, 18 Dec 2010 07:34:35 GMT

Author: thomas697

Posted: 12/18/2010 12:34

Jhereko wrote:

thomas697 wrote:

Jhereko wrote:

This is the list that ive been waiting for. Sorry that you have your gripes with it, but for me this is the be all and end all of annual music lists. In Pitchfork I Trust.

Re: The published lists for 2010

videoheadcleaner — Fri, 17 Dec 2010 22:44:45 GMT

Author: videoheadcleaner

Posted: 12/18/2010 03:44

Sorry, that was Uncut's list.

Re: The published lists for 2010

Anonymous — Fri, 17 Dec 2010 22:05:57 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 12/18/2010 03:05

harkan wrote:

1 Joanna Newsom – Have One on Me
2 Neil Young – Le Noise
3 Paul Weller – Wake Up the Nation
4 Arcade Fire – The Suburbs
5 Robert Plant – Band of Joy
6 Ariel Pink’s Haunted Graffiti – Before Today
7 John Grant – Queen of Denmark
8 Ali Farka Toure and Toumani Diabate – Ali and Toumani
9 LCD Soundsystem – This Is Happening
10 Grinderman – Grinderman II
11 Drive-By Truckers – The Big To-Do
12 These New Puritans – Hidden
13 Vampire Weekend – Contra
14 The National – High Violet
15 Field Music – Field Music (Measure)
16 Gil Scott-Heron – I’m New Here
17 The Fall – Your Future, Our Clutter
18 Gorillaz – Plastic Beach
19 Manic Street Preachers – Postcards from a Young Man
20 Oneohtrix Point Never – Returnal
21 Hans Chew – Tennessee and Other Stories
22 Spoon – Transference
23 Teenage Fanclub – Shadows
24 Alasdair Roberts – Too Long in This Condition
25 Gayngs – Related
26 Los Lobos – Tin Can Trust
27 Voice of the Seven Thunders – Voice of the Seven Thunders
28 The Black Keys – The Black Keys
29 Afrocubism – Afrocubism
30 Flying Lotus – Cosmogramma
31 Richard Thompson – Dream Attic
32 The Duke & The King – Long Live The Duke & The King
33 Edywn Collins – Losing Sleep
34 Dylan LeBlanc- Pauper’s Field
35 Roky Erickson and Okkervil River – True Love Cast Out All Evil
36 The Hold Steady – Heaven Is Whenever
37 Corinne Bailey Rae – The Sea
38 Wyatt, Atzmon, Stephen – For the Ghosts Within
39 Yeasayer – Odd Blood
40 Trembling Bells – Abandoned Love
41 Steve Mason – Boys Outside
42 Blitzen Trapper – Destroyers of the Void
43 Janelle Monae – The ArchAndroid
44 Hot Chip – One Life Stand
45 Toro Y Moi – Causers of This
46 Sleigh Bells – Treats
47 Solar Bears – She Was Colored In
48 Zola Jesus – Stridulum II
49 Olof Arnalds – Innundir Skinni
50 Kings of Leon – Come Around Sundown

Interesting positions for Arcade Fire and National.

Also found this link. Haven't looked through yet. http://www.albumoftheyear.org/lists.php

whose list?

Re: The published lists for 2010

videoheadcleaner — Fri, 17 Dec 2010 21:44:31 GMT

Author: videoheadcleaner

Posted: 12/18/2010 02:44

1 Joanna Newsom – Have One on Me
2 Neil Young – Le Noise
3 Paul Weller – Wake Up the Nation
4 Arcade Fire – The Suburbs
5 Robert Plant – Band of Joy
6 Ariel Pink’s Haunted Graffiti – Before Today
7 John Grant – Queen of Denmark
8 Ali Farka Toure and Toumani Diabate – Ali and Toumani
9 LCD Soundsystem – This Is Happening
10 Grinderman – Grinderman II
11 Drive-By Truckers – The Big To-Do
12 These New Puritans – Hidden
13 Vampire Weekend – Contra
14 The National – High Violet
15 Field Music – Field Music (Measure)
16 Gil Scott-Heron – I’m New Here
17 The Fall – Your Future, Our Clutter
18 Gorillaz – Plastic Beach
19 Manic Street Preachers – Postcards from a Young Man
20 Oneohtrix Point Never – Returnal
21 Hans Chew – Tennessee and Other Stories
22 Spoon – Transference
23 Teenage Fanclub – Shadows
24 Alasdair Roberts – Too Long in This Condition
25 Gayngs – Related
26 Los Lobos – Tin Can Trust
27 Voice of the Seven Thunders – Voice of the Seven Thunders
28 The Black Keys – The Black Keys
29 Afrocubism – Afrocubism
30 Flying Lotus – Cosmogramma
31 Richard Thompson – Dream Attic
32 The Duke & The King – Long Live The Duke & The King
33 Edywn Collins – Losing Sleep
34 Dylan LeBlanc- Pauper’s Field
35 Roky Erickson and Okkervil River – True Love Cast Out All Evil
36 The Hold Steady – Heaven Is Whenever
37 Corinne Bailey Rae – The Sea
38 Wyatt, Atzmon, Stephen – For the Ghosts Within
39 Yeasayer – Odd Blood
40 Trembling Bells – Abandoned Love
41 Steve Mason – Boys Outside
42 Blitzen Trapper – Destroyers of the Void
43 Janelle Monae – The ArchAndroid
44 Hot Chip – One Life Stand
45 Toro Y Moi – Causers of This
46 Sleigh Bells – Treats
47 Solar Bears – She Was Colored In
48 Zola Jesus – Stridulum II
49 Olof Arnalds – Innundir Skinni
50 Kings of Leon – Come Around Sundown

Interesting positions for Arcade Fire and National.

Also found this link. Haven't looked through yet. http://www.albumoftheyear.org/lists.php

Re: The published lists for 2010

Anonymous — Fri, 17 Dec 2010 20:39:51 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 12/18/2010 01:39

thomas697 wrote:

Jhereko wrote:

This is the list that ive been waiting for. Sorry that you have your gripes with it, but for me this is the be all and end all of annual music lists. In Pitchfork I Trust.

Re: The published lists for 2010

thomas697 — Fri, 17 Dec 2010 19:13:57 GMT

Author: thomas697

Posted: 12/18/2010 00:13

Jhereko wrote:

This is the list that ive been waiting for. Sorry that you have your gripes with it, but for me this is the be all and end all of annual music lists. In Pitchfork I Trust.