Best Ever Albums

Re: TV On The Radio: Seeds

lightmyway — Mon, 20 Oct 2014 19:37:50 GMT

Author: lightmyway

Posted: 10/20/2014 23:37

I'm looking forward to this, what I've heard so far has me hoping for something better than Nine Types of Light.

Re: TV On The Radio: Seeds

Necharsian — Sun, 19 Oct 2014 16:49:37 GMT

Author: Necharsian

Posted: 10/19/2014 20:49

Romanelli wrote:

You're beautiful.

Re: TV On The Radio: Seeds

Romanelli — Sun, 19 Oct 2014 16:48:35 GMT

Author: Romanelli

Posted: 10/19/2014 20:48

Necharsian wrote:

You're beautiful.

Re: TV On The Radio: Seeds

Necharsian — Sun, 19 Oct 2014 16:44:12 GMT

Author: Necharsian

Posted: 10/19/2014 20:44

Romanelli wrote:

we getting a little over sensitive here?

Re: TV On The Radio: Seeds

Romanelli — Sun, 19 Oct 2014 16:43:38 GMT

Author: Romanelli

Posted: 10/19/2014 20:43

Silver wrote:

Well considering the title of the thread is "TV On The Radio: Seeds" and this specific incident set you off on something you've already talked about and we know your stance on, forgive me for assuming it was just this specific incident you wanted to talk about. I hardly think forum regulars deserve special treatment, I just saw your intro post as pretty accusatory more than discussion opening. If your only intention in opening this thread was just to open a dialogue on these types of incidents rather than venting about this specific one, than I apologize. I just think it's a bit redundant.

Also, I've absolutely never added an album to this site that I haven't heard, which I think is a pretty fair way to approach things here.

I guess once people think they've got you figured out here, the stereotype lives on. My intent was to have a discussion about the topic. Instead, I'm on page two still trying to convince people that I'm not being a dick about this, and want to have a discussion about it.

I used the thread title as an example, because it was an example I had just run across. I'm done venting about this...but I think it's a subject that should be important to BEA users, and wanted to discuss. I diid not mean to come across otherwise.

Re: TV On The Radio: Seeds

Romanelli — Sun, 19 Oct 2014 16:39:25 GMT

Author: Romanelli

Posted: 10/19/2014 20:39

Hayden wrote:

There are people dying.

Yeah. Let's have genre tagging. Let's talk about Radiohead. Better yet, let's delete all forums except for Politics And Religion, remove all charts, and have deep meaningful discussions about people dying.

Sorry this is not relevant to you. You could also not say anything.

Re: TV On The Radio: Seeds

Hayden — Sun, 19 Oct 2014 13:44:37 GMT

Author: Hayden

Posted: 10/19/2014 17:44

There are people dying.

Re: TV On The Radio: Seeds

Anonymous — Sun, 19 Oct 2014 13:20:56 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 10/19/2014 17:20

Romanelli wrote:

I'm not "wagging a finger"...we getting a little over sensitive here? Seems the view right now is that every time I post, I'm putting someone down, which is really unfair.

Pointing out the fact that it wasn't a forum regular who added it is pretty ridiculous. Do forum regulars have special rules? Are people who don't post here not worthy of notice as to what they do on the site?

What I am doing is trying to have a discussion about something that happens a LOT on this site (from "forum regulars probably more than non regulars, if that's important to you). This is intended to be a discussion about whether certain albums should be added to the site or not. Which, I thought, should be a part of what the forums are for.

Re: TV On The Radio: Seeds

Romanelli — Sun, 19 Oct 2014 12:23:05 GMT

Author: Romanelli

Posted: 10/19/2014 16:23

Patman360 wrote:

This is a good point actually, if there were no points for it, people probably wouldn't bother adding albums before they're released.

On the other hand...if no points were given for data moderation, the job would fall onto the small group of people who do it to help the site and not for points. Almost no one would admin their own additions, and the backlog would likely be enormous.

Re: TV On The Radio: Seeds

Romanelli — Sun, 19 Oct 2014 09:55:47 GMT

Author: Romanelli

Posted: 10/19/2014 13:55

Kool Keith Sweat wrote:

Honestly, the primary reason they're probably adding it to the site prematurely is because this site awards points for moderation info. Everything about the album outside of the sounds of two tracks is known, so there's nothing stopping them.

Actually, the reason why I see so many of them is that they are added with no data moderation done. It would make sense, but I don't think that's it.

Re: TV On The Radio: Seeds

Patman360 — Sun, 19 Oct 2014 09:48:35 GMT

Author: Patman360

Posted: 10/19/2014 13:48

Kool Keith Sweat wrote:

This is a good point actually, if there were no points for it, people probably wouldn't bother adding albums before they're released.

Re: TV On The Radio: Seeds

Anonymous — Sun, 19 Oct 2014 09:27:44 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 10/19/2014 13:27

Honestly, the primary reason they're probably adding it to the site prematurely is because this site awards points for moderation info. Everything about the album outside of the sounds of two tracks is known, so there's nothing stopping them.

Re: TV On The Radio: Seeds

Romanelli — Sun, 19 Oct 2014 09:22:30 GMT

Author: Romanelli

Posted: 10/19/2014 13:22

CubaZed wrote:

^point

I literally could not care less. It's not like it would make the top 1000 of the year anyway until people have heard it. Also hasn't it been leaked? I heard it being mentioned that it had when I saw TV On The Radio play last night.

As of yesterday, two tracks had been leaked.

I'm just looking for some understanding as to why someone would add an album to a site like this without having listened to it first.

Re: TV On The Radio: Seeds

Romanelli — Sun, 19 Oct 2014 09:20:00 GMT

Author: Romanelli

Posted: 10/19/2014 13:20

Silver wrote:

Well it's not like any of the forum regulars added it to the site, why wag the finger at us?

Re: TV On The Radio: Seeds

Romanelli — Sun, 19 Oct 2014 09:13:25 GMT

Author: Romanelli

Posted: 10/19/2014 13:13

Patman360 wrote:

The album art is out, as is the track listing and chances are the album will be streaming sooner rather than later. The album is going to be added to the site at some stage, so why not let it be added now considering every detail about it is known, sure, it doesn't need to be on charts yet, but I have no problem with it being on the site, it may even attract new users to the site who go out looking for details about the album.

The point is that while the details of the album are out, no one has actually heard it yet. Yes, it will be added at some point...but why should it be added before anyone has heard it? The question remains...how can it be one of the Best Ever Albums if nobody has yet to even listen to it?

The only way albums can be added is by putting them on charts. There's a reason for that. Kind of the point of BEA is that in order to add an album, you need to have listened to it and decided that it merits being on a chart. How can this album have any value on a chart if it has not yet been heard?

Re: TV On The Radio: Seeds

Anonymous — Sat, 18 Oct 2014 14:50:01 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 10/18/2014 18:50

Silver wrote:

Well it's not like any of the forum regulars added it to the site, why wag the finger at us?

Re: TV On The Radio: Seeds

Anonymous — Sat, 18 Oct 2014 12:48:17 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 10/18/2014 16:48

Well it's not like any of the forum regulars added it to the site, why wag the finger at us?

Re: TV On The Radio: Seeds

Patman360 — Sat, 18 Oct 2014 09:24:08 GMT

Author: Patman360

Posted: 10/18/2014 13:24

The album art is out, as is the track listing and chances are the album will be streaming sooner rather than later. The album is going to be added to the site at some stage, so why not let it be added now considering every detail about it is known, sure, it doesn't need to be on charts yet, but I have no problem with it being on the site, it may even attract new users to the site who go out looking for details about the album.

Re: TV On The Radio: Seeds

Romanelli — Sat, 18 Oct 2014 09:16:54 GMT

Author: Romanelli

Posted: 10/18/2014 13:16

Patman360 wrote:

The album has been on RYM for nearly 3 weeks where it has been added to the wishlists of almost 100 members. I'll be all for a system where we could wish list albums that have yet to be released. Personally, I would genuinely use it more then I use the current wish list format.

Is the goal then to become like RYM? Doesn't having albums on BEA that no one has listened to, and that do not yet exist, go against what BEA was created for?

Re: TV On The Radio: Seeds

Patman360 — Sat, 18 Oct 2014 09:12:31 GMT

Author: Patman360

Posted: 10/18/2014 13:12

The album has been on RYM for nearly 3 weeks where it has been added to the wishlists of almost 100 members. I'll be all for a system where we could wish list albums that have yet to be released. Personally, I would genuinely use it more then I use the current wish list format.