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Re: Genre Extravaganza: INDUSTRIAL TECHNO

Anonymous — Mon, 26 Jan 2015 16:44:04 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 01/26/2015 21:44

There, the OP is fixed. This reminds me of an article I read recently that discussed the importance of proofreading and noted that it's actually very common to leave out the actual central thesis of an article before an editor takes a look and only sees digressions from a central point that isn't there. Thanks for pointing that out, Norman and dbz.

Re: Genre Extravaganza: INDUSTRIAL TECHNO

Anonymous — Mon, 26 Jan 2015 16:36:13 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 01/26/2015 21:36

Good thread 😄 Well done. I'll listen to some albums on here when I can

Re: Genre Extravaganza: INDUSTRIAL TECHNO

Anonymous — Mon, 26 Jan 2015 16:35:07 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 01/26/2015 21:35

i am a complete moron and did very little to connect the dots cleanly with Industrial music proper. there are a lot of ethos and stylistic similarities, but the distinction is that Industrial Techno does, in fact, err more on the side of techno (same as Industrial Rock leaning more on rock music and thus having almost more to do with noise rock than with the avant-garde stylings of a Throbbing Gristle, for example, but that gets murky cause the parent genre of early industrial music is loosely punk rock being re-synthesized with mid-20th century art music). i'm gonna add a section to influences real quick to correct the error

Re: Genre Extravaganza: INDUSTRIAL TECHNO

Anonymous — Mon, 26 Jan 2015 02:01:13 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 01/26/2015 07:01

Fantastic thread Satie. So is it safe to say that industrial techno as a genre takes more from the "techno" end of the spectrum? (i.e. has negligible influence from the likes of Throbbing Gristle and Cabaret Voltaire)

Also does Einstürzende Neubauten fall anywhere within the sphere of influences on the genre?

Re: Genre Extravaganza: INDUSTRIAL TECHNO

Norman Bates — Sun, 25 Jan 2015 13:02:24 GMT

Author: Norman Bates

Posted: 01/25/2015 18:02

Do you think EBM could be counted as an influence then?

Re: Genre Extravaganza: INDUSTRIAL TECHNO

Anonymous — Sun, 25 Jan 2015 12:44:32 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 01/25/2015 17:44

Norman Bates wrote:

Will listen, thanks! I know nothing about this. You do make it sound like it's very cerebral and #abstractqualities, can you still dance to it?

yeah, it's very danceable. the percussion is just a lot more angular, and the beats are pretty frantic, so you get a lot of opportunities to be creative/dehydrated

Re: Genre Extravaganza: INDUSTRIAL TECHNO

meccalecca — Sun, 25 Jan 2015 08:10:26 GMT

Author: meccalecca

Posted: 01/25/2015 13:10

JoD wrote:

Love what you've done here, can't wait to delve into this stuff. I always assumed NIN were industrial..

Amen. When I hear the words industrial and techno, I think NIN, Skinny Puppy, Throbbing Gristle, The Electric Hellfire Club, etc. But that's me mixing up industrial rock with industrial techno.

Thanks Satie. I know nothing about any of these bands/albums, so I'm looking forward to checking them out

Re: Genre Extravaganza: INDUSTRIAL TECHNO

Anonymous — Sun, 25 Jan 2015 07:55:06 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 01/25/2015 12:55

It looks interesting, I'll check some of these out. Don't know much about it or I'd contribute more.

Re: Genre Extravaganza: INDUSTRIAL TECHNO

pa — Sun, 25 Jan 2015 07:08:41 GMT

Author: pa

Posted: 01/25/2015 12:08

very useful thread, industrial techno is an unknown genre to me
thanks for sharing this 😁

Re: Genre Extravaganza: INDUSTRIAL TECHNO

Anonymous — Sun, 25 Jan 2015 04:42:49 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 01/25/2015 09:42

Love what you've done here, can't wait to delve into this stuff. I always assumed NIN were industrial..

Don't be sad, not many of us around on Saturday evening 😄

Re: Genre Extravaganza: INDUSTRIAL TECHNO

Norman Bates — Sun, 25 Jan 2015 04:37:09 GMT

Author: Norman Bates

Posted: 01/25/2015 09:37

Will listen, thanks! I know nothing about this. You do make it sound like it's very cerebral and #abstractqualities, can you still dance to it?

Re: Genre Extravaganza: INDUSTRIAL TECHNO

Anonymous — Sun, 25 Jan 2015 02:24:03 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 01/25/2015 07:24

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Genre Extravaganza: INDUSTRIAL TECHNO

Anonymous — Sat, 24 Jan 2015 16:01:31 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 01/24/2015 21:01

INDUSTRIAL TECHNO

"My music is very visceral, it's a confrontation in itself, it's not very palatable, it certainly isn't easy listening, it fits uncomfortably within techno. That's the kind of disturbance I bring. I don't have to do anything special to make interference happen. It's natural." – Karl O'Connor (Regis)

"Sometimes people need a great intensity to feel something if they are disconnected from themselves. Also, overload is a very effective hypnotic technique." – Anthony Child (Surgeon)

"Desocialization waves desolate telecommercial space, until impending human extinction becomes accessible as a dance-floor. What is the scale of now? It isn't a matter of informing the mind, but of deprogramming the body. Amongst the strobes, artificial cool, and inorganic attack beat, dark-side K-war machinery resiliently persists, luring the forces of monopolism down into free-fire zones of fatal intensity, where promiscuous anorgasmic sexualities slide across tactile space, meandering fractally into wet electric distributed conflicts continuous with their terminal consequences." – Nick Land, Fanged Noumena

It was always going to end up like this sooner or later. Once the afrofuturistic ambitions of techno originators Juan Atkins, Derrick May, and Kevin Saunderson had to go toe to toe with a bleak reality where even voting the bad guys out of office wasn't a tenable solution for the horrors of Reagan and Thatcher's neoliberalism, their music, intrinsically political and dissociative itself, was morphed into something even more stunningly nihilistic, raw, and pent up. As visions of the future changed from Afronauts funkitizing galaxies, in the words of George Clinton's Starchild, to hyperreal dystopias with accelerated production and consumption cycles, and the final flame of revolution was gently blown out by the Berlin Wall and late capitalism's anti-Nostradamus, Francis Fukuyama, the machine whirr became the backing beat for a terrifying, bone-crunching new sound: Industrial Techno.

THE INFLUENCES
Industrial techno borrows a lot of its aesthetic from early proto-techno electronic performers like Kraftwerk, but without the same bright colors and sickeningly sweet irony. In industrial techno, die mensch maschine is much more likely to be something of a compactor for Soylent Green than it is a manufacturer of fine automobiles in which one can fahren fahren fahren auf der Autobahn. Of course, more direct influences include the aforementioned Belleville Three in 1980s Detroit. Two directly preceding movements, minimal and dub techno, had very similar aesthetic goals in their darkening of techno themes until they were sparsely present, just riding on stripped down, confrontational beats. For reference, here are a few precursors to the Industrial Techno sound: