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Re: Music Diaries Subforum

Anonymous — Thu, 12 Nov 2015 07:24:25 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 11/12/2015 12:24

Gowi wrote:

Just add a table of contents (maybe with a link to the post specifically each) to your OP.

This is what I did with my history thread way back when. It takes a bit of work, but I agree it's a good alternative if the forum mod isn't possible. You could also create your own blog and have your thread posts link to that. That's basically what these threads are after all.

Re: Music Diaries Subforum

albummaster — Thu, 12 Nov 2015 06:48:42 GMT

Author: albummaster

Posted: 11/12/2015 11:48

Gowi wrote:

Just add a table of contents (maybe with a link to the post specifically each) to your OP.

Sounds like a good workaround

Re: Music Diaries Subforum

mickilennial — Wed, 11 Nov 2015 21:00:30 GMT

Author: mickilennial

Posted: 11/12/2015 02:00

dividesbyzero wrote:

hey so I was thinking maybe we could give users moderater privileges over their own diary threads? Would give people the option of deleting some sections of more or less meandering chit-chat (of which I am guilty) so as to make it easier to get to the actual diary posts

Just add a table of contents (maybe with a link to the post specifically each) to your OP.

Re: Music Diaries Subforum

Anonymous — Wed, 11 Nov 2015 17:04:02 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 11/11/2015 22:04

albummaster wrote:

As Tap mentioned, the problem with doing this is phpbb. I don't think a mod exists that provides this kind of functionality. I think, reading between the lines, people are really wanting more of a blogging platform where each post is distinct and has its own comments and people can moderate their own comments. There might exist a phpbb mod more along those lines than a straight security mod. I'll have a check into this.

Thanks AM. No worries if it's not possible within the current framework. Btw what's the ETA on premium accounts? I want an excuse to give you my money

Re: Music Diaries Subforum

albummaster — Wed, 11 Nov 2015 09:14:03 GMT

Author: albummaster

Posted: 11/11/2015 14:14

dividesbyzero wrote:

Re: Music Diaries Subforum

Skinny — Wed, 11 Nov 2015 01:54:52 GMT

Author: Skinny

Posted: 11/11/2015 06:54

I like the thread titles, they often give a flavour of what's to come, or entice me in. It's still obvious whose diary it is (the name of the user who started the thread is visible), and I think a list of slight variations on a generic title would look boring and colourless.

Re: Music Diaries Subforum

Anonymous — Tue, 10 Nov 2015 22:50:07 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 11/11/2015 03:50

Romanelli wrote:

I would have individuals request to have a thread opened for them (granted based on points), with the mod priveledges set up at that time and with a generic thread title.

Minus the generic thread title, this was the format of the process on the forum from which I got this idea, for the record. I understand though that the current incarnation (seemingly) wasn't very labor-intensive for am, and I am very glad it's open at all. These are tweaks and modifications that can come as they're possible or desirable.

Re: Music Diaries Subforum

Romanelli — Tue, 10 Nov 2015 22:38:04 GMT

Author: Romanelli

Posted: 11/11/2015 03:38

Satie wrote:

I wasn't the first, much less only, person to say something negative about that thread, so I'm not entirely sure why I was quoted. I tend to avoid the thread myself and don't care if other people use it. No need to give such an impassioned defense. It was musing on several users' part several days ago that hasn't amounted to anything or resulted in any increased pressure.

I'm curious about your problem with personalized titles for the Music Diaries, if you want to offer it. I'm also interested in your perspective as a moderator on dbz's idea that users be given personal thread moderation privileges to better curate their music diaries.

You were the one who used the words "point farm". That's why.

I simply find the creative thread titles to be annoying. Just my opinion, but I would have gone with having a generic thread title ("Romanelli's Music Diary", "Satie's Music Diary") in the same way that the non-custom charts on BEA have generic titles. I find the thread titles to be distracting and unecessary. The creative content should be inside the thread...not outside. My opinion.

I am surprised that the diaries are open to all users...I thought that it was supposed to have been something that required a certain number of points to unlock. I would not have a problem with users being able to moderate their own diaries (I do not know how easy it would be to set up to give moderator abilities on a thread by thread basis). Again, if it were me, and single thread moderator priveledges could be done, I would have individuals request to have a thread opened for them (granted based on points), with the mod priveledges set up at that time and with a generic thread title.

Re: Music Diaries Subforum

Anti — Tue, 10 Nov 2015 22:34:10 GMT

Author: Anti

Posted: 11/11/2015 03:34

I'm not exactly a man of many words, so my entires could just end up being a few sentences. Plus, I think it looks neater if I wrote an entry per album (or concert for my matter), just like how I write a new page in a journal for each entry, despite it being within the same day. That's just me, though.

Re: Music Diaries Subforum

Anonymous — Tue, 10 Nov 2015 22:16:10 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 11/11/2015 03:16

I wasn't the first, much less only, person to say something negative about that thread, so I'm not entirely sure why I was quoted. I tend to avoid the thread myself and don't care if other people use it. No need to give such an impassioned defense. It was musing on several users' part several days ago that hasn't amounted to anything or resulted in any increased pressure.

I'm curious about your problem with personalized titles for the Music Diaries, if you want to offer it. I'm also interested in your perspective as a moderator on dbz's idea that users be given personal thread moderation privileges to better curate their music diaries.

Re: Music Diaries Subforum

Romanelli — Tue, 10 Nov 2015 20:50:36 GMT

Author: Romanelli

Posted: 11/11/2015 01:50

Satie wrote:

If people even wrote like one sentence about what they were listening to, it wouldn't be an issue, but no one ever wants to discuss music. That thread is just this bloated points farm at this point.

No, it's not a bloated "points farm". Even if people just post what they are listening to without talking about it, there is value in it. It's actually interesting to see what people are listening to, and it's become kind of the center of the forums...after all, listening to albums is why we're here, and the thread is a big part of it. The diaries (the titles of which I am not a big fan of, but whatever) are seperate, in a seperate forum, and shoud stay that way. It's also probably the easiest source for recs on the site, and is, to me anyway, the forum symbol of what BEA is for.

A bloated "points farm" would be something where you could, say, rate every song on multiple albums quickly and easily. Most people don't post on the Album thread more than 3 or 4 times a day, which results in a whopping, what, 8 points? You may not like the thread, but there are people here who do, and who probably don't really appreciate it being called a bloated points farm. It's over 8500 pages long, and just about everyone who has ever posted here has contributed to it. I think it deserves better. I see it as an icon of BEA. We can have both the diaries in its own forum and the Albums thread in the music forum.

Re: Music Diaries Subforum

Tap — Tue, 10 Nov 2015 17:40:40 GMT

Author: Tap

Posted: 11/10/2015 22:40

i'm not sure if phpbb has that kind of functionality. we could always just have a general discussion thread in that forum and ppl can say "dont post in my thread post in there" if they want? i dont mind posts in mine personally but i can see why itd be good to have it exclusive if you wanted

Re: Music Diaries Subforum

Anonymous — Tue, 10 Nov 2015 14:12:25 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 11/10/2015 19:12

Thirded

Re: Music Diaries Subforum

Anonymous — Tue, 10 Nov 2015 13:55:35 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 11/10/2015 18:55

dividesbyzero wrote:

Second this motion (and also guilty).

Re: Music Diaries Subforum

Anonymous — Tue, 10 Nov 2015 13:40:03 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 11/10/2015 18:40

hey so I was thinking maybe we could give users moderater privileges over their own diary threads? Would give people the option of deleting some sections of more or less meandering chit-chat (of which I am guilty) so as to make it easier to get to the actual diary posts

Re: Music Diaries Subforum

Mercury — Thu, 5 Nov 2015 15:57:18 GMT

Author: Mercury

Posted: 11/05/2015 20:57

Bloody brilliant! Thanks Albummaster

Re: Music Diaries Subforum

Norman Bates — Thu, 5 Nov 2015 15:29:21 GMT

Author: Norman Bates

Posted: 11/05/2015 20:29

Thank you very much AM. To me this seems like a real expansion on what BEA's always been about, and I expect some great reads, as well as a good opportunity to ramble on. Great idea all 'round boys.

Re: Music Diaries Subforum

Anonymous — Thu, 5 Nov 2015 15:09:50 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 11/05/2015 20:09

Gowi wrote:

We should let that thread die.

If people even wrote like one sentence about what they were listening to, it wouldn't be an issue, but no one ever wants to discuss music. That thread is just this bloated points farm at this point.

Re: Music Diaries Subforum

RockyRaccoon — Thu, 5 Nov 2015 15:01:36 GMT

Author: RockyRaccoon

Posted: 11/05/2015 20:01

So for the formatting of these things, should each user (who's interested) create a thread (something like "[user name] - Listening Log") and just continuously update that as time goes on and as they feel like it? Or is there another format in mind?

Re: Music Diaries Subforum

RockyRaccoon — Thu, 5 Nov 2015 15:00:06 GMT

Author: RockyRaccoon

Posted: 11/05/2015 20:00

Gowi wrote:

RockyRaccoon wrote:

dividesbyzero wrote:

the beginning of the end of the most abused thread in BEA history

thanks AM!

Would it be better to have that thread in that forum do you think?

Maybe for someone who wants to post what they're listening to but doesn't want to write up a whole thing about it? Or perhaps we should just let the thread die

We should let that thread die.

Probably for the best