Best Ever Albums

Re: BEA History / THE GOOD OL' DAYS

19loveless91 — Mon, 23 Nov 2015 05:19:08 GMT

Author: 19loveless91

Posted: 11/23/2015 10:19

At this rate, BEA in 2016 will be split in two sections, Satie's Music Diary and Hayden's Film Log.

Re: BEA History / THE GOOD OL' DAYS

Anonymous — Mon, 23 Nov 2015 04:06:59 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 11/23/2015 09:06

Saoirse wrote:

This thread is turning into a really bad The Far Side joke

🤣

on a more relevant note your new sig has me forcing back tears damn you

Re: BEA History / THE GOOD OL' DAYS

Anonymous — Mon, 23 Nov 2015 04:03:28 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 11/23/2015 09:03

This thread is turning into a really bad The Far Side joke

Re: BEA History / THE GOOD OL' DAYS

Norman Bates — Mon, 23 Nov 2015 03:15:38 GMT

Author: Norman Bates

Posted: 11/23/2015 08:15

Oh OK. Cue taken. Sorry. Rave on.

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Anonymous — Mon, 23 Nov 2015 03:06:21 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 11/23/2015 08:06

i think it's just spelled "DJ," and no, i think people were making rap music because of UB40, but interesting angle! 🤔

Re: BEA History / THE GOOD OL' DAYS

Norman Bates — Mon, 23 Nov 2015 02:56:19 GMT

Author: Norman Bates

Posted: 11/23/2015 07:56

Satie wrote:

(...) rap, or as i like to call it, a genre derived from African American folk tradition (...)

by which I suppose you mean deejay reggae

Re: BEA History / THE GOOD OL' DAYS

Applerill — Sun, 22 Nov 2015 22:17:28 GMT

Author: Applerill

Posted: 11/23/2015 03:17

Satie wrote:

only if it's twenty-five years old and has a saxophone in there somehere?
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What if it's from a blue-collar white man who makes nursery rhymes for serious grown-ups? Surely those geniuses make as many "best ever albums" as any of those black people you're talking about.

Re: BEA History / THE GOOD OL' DAYS

Anonymous — Sun, 22 Nov 2015 21:54:20 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 11/23/2015 02:54

WHO THE FUCK CARES indeed, MrFrogger, FroggerEsq, if I can call you that, for you are clearly a learned man. i am still at the beginning of my journey, but i already feel this sentiment rising from my chest like the sound of my soul being unshackled - first a whisper, then a roar - WHO THE FUCK CARES

WHO THE FUCK CARES about albums not formed fully in the minds of geniuses, as perfect syntheses of popular trends and artistic ambition for the consumption and appreciation of all?
WHO THE FUCK CARES about assessing albums based on anti-democratic, non-aggregated metrics?
WHO THE FUCK CARES about venturing into the postmodern, nihilistic void of subjectivity when sales figures (up to but not including the years after the Great Collapse of Album Civilization in the early '90s, when the great prophets Pearl Jam were betrayed by the masses and the evil Ticket Master) exist to validate TRUE artistic credibility and influence?
WHO THE FUCK CARES about rap, or as i like to call it, a genre derived from African American folk tradition in reaction to sustained structural oppression in the Reagan-era '80s that i owe respect but only occasional listening time... but only if it's twenty-five years old and has a saxophone in there somehere?

these are the questions we should be asking, and i am not afraid to ask them anymore.

Re: BEA History / THE GOOD OL' DAYS

Applerill — Sun, 22 Nov 2015 21:37:48 GMT

Author: Applerill

Posted: 11/23/2015 02:37

MrFrogger wrote:

Oh wait, sorry, I got the two threads mixed up. I thought the Romanelli thing was a continuation of Satie's new disdain for adding meaningless music to the database.

Also, wait: if the "Best Ever Albums" are holy and infallible, then what's the cutting-off point on the overall chart in terms of making one "best ever"? Is it like a factorial sort of superiority an album has from each one before it?

Re: BEA History / THE GOOD OL' DAYS

Gigantic — Sun, 22 Nov 2015 21:31:52 GMT

Author: Gigantic

Posted: 11/23/2015 02:31

Quote:

I'm arranging to have myself, Applerill, and the still-living spirits of Thurston Moore and Stravinsky (he's alive right?) to get you to go back to just being yourself because this newfound sarcasm is unbecoming

no continue this has been great and the joke needs to go further pls

Re: BEA History / THE GOOD OL' DAYS

MrFrogger — Sun, 22 Nov 2015 21:08:07 GMT

Author: MrFrogger

Posted: 11/23/2015 02:08

Applerill wrote:

....Wait, Tortoise is obscure and poptimist?

Re: BEA History / THE GOOD OL' DAYS

Applerill — Sun, 22 Nov 2015 19:33:55 GMT

Author: Applerill

Posted: 11/23/2015 00:33

....Wait, Tortoise is obscure and poptimist?

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Anonymous — Sun, 22 Nov 2015 18:53:51 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 11/22/2015 23:53

sp4cetiger wrote:

So what did we tell you they were? It's hard to imagine Romanelli and I agreeing on this.

i would not seek the blaspheme the Church of BEA by offering my amateurish neophyte readings of the sacred texts. like all good converts, i am merely in a step of self-denial, eschewing all attempts at "clarifying a position" and "differing in viewpoint" in exchange for the kinds of wit and wisdom happily spake from the mouths of gods and their prophets.

Quote:

i, too, was once lost, but now i am found. you and Charlie have to come to the light, too. can't you see? consideration of politics in popular music is nothing but wasted time never to be regained. it is also off-putting to attracting new converts to the Masonic Order of Best Albums Ever Made On This Planet And The Internet. listening to musicians that aren't on the charts can only be done to broadcast eclecticism, but it is dangerous to chart such things, for earthly temptations abound in the works of heretics. without tonality, where would we be? we would be in a very bad place indeed. a very pretentious one, if you ask me.

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Anonymous — Sun, 22 Nov 2015 18:01:05 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 11/22/2015 23:01

Satie wrote:

I had a vision this morning. sp4cetiger, Romanelli, and the disembodied spirits of John Lennon and Miles Davis (he's dead, right?) came to me in a dream and told me that my opinions were ruining everything and that I had no idea what the Best Ever Albums were. Suddenly, my charade came crashing to the floor. It is my mission now to make sure that this forum acknowledges the TRUTH.

Re: BEA History / THE GOOD OL' DAYS

Anonymous — Sun, 22 Nov 2015 17:28:43 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 11/22/2015 22:28

Satie wrote:

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So what did we tell you they were? It's hard to imagine Romanelli and I agreeing on this.

Re: BEA History / THE GOOD OL' DAYS

alelsupreme — Sun, 22 Nov 2015 17:16:01 GMT

Author: alelsupreme

Posted: 11/22/2015 22:16

Satie wrote:

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Re: BEA History / THE GOOD OL' DAYS

Anonymous — Sun, 22 Nov 2015 16:20:25 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 11/22/2015 21:20

I had a vision this morning. sp4cetiger, Romanelli, and the disembodied spirits of John Lennon and Miles Davis (he's dead, right?) came to me in a dream and told me that my opinions were ruining everything and that I had no idea what the Best Ever Albums were. Suddenly, my charade came crashing to the floor. It is my mission now to make sure that this forum acknowledges the TRUTH.

Re: BEA History / THE GOOD OL' DAYS

alelsupreme — Sun, 22 Nov 2015 14:17:37 GMT

Author: alelsupreme

Posted: 11/22/2015 19:17

Gigantic wrote:

what we have with titles is better, but i do kinda miss having easy-to-see hierarchies of members so we could oppress the novices

#bealuminatti #intheshadows

Re: BEA History / THE GOOD OL' DAYS

Gigantic — Sun, 22 Nov 2015 12:32:29 GMT

Author: Gigantic

Posted: 11/22/2015 17:32

Necharsian wrote:

aw man I miss having those giant gold star under my name

what we have with titles is better, but i do kinda miss having easy-to-see hierarchies of members so we could oppress the novices

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albummaster — Sun, 22 Nov 2015 05:11:12 GMT

Author: albummaster

Posted: 11/22/2015 10:11

Gigantic wrote:

first off: who misses gary and naples? a lot of people apparently, this website's activity peaked around right before they were banned. is it possible that bea's confrontational nature and drama was what was actually drawing people to the site, as opposed to the then-over-curated threads. and what do you guys make of these dips in the site's traffic on specific months?

Alexa's stats are not at all reliable (their stats are not measured directly but just based on a sample of people who have installed their toolbar). The site activity since those people were banned hasn't suffered, if anything it has improved in terms of the quality of discussion (it's now more centred on music). In terms of volume, the forums have been quieter the past few months but in the run up to the end of year, activity generally increases as people seek out end of year lists etc.

sp4cetiger wrote:

I dunno, I've been on several forums where users kept insisting everything was fine until the post rates dwindled to nothingness. Maybe they were fine with that too, I dunno.

Forums do die, and falling post rates are as good an indicator as you'll find. That's not to say that change is bad; in fact, I'd say it's necessary to keep things fresh. However, inactivity and ambivalence are seldom good harbingers for the future. I hope the diaries succeed in bringing back some life to BEA in the short term, but ultimately, the BEA forums are tied to the fate of the main site. If albummaster unveils that big update he's been talking about, I bet that we'll see a revival of interest in the forums... :wink:

The update is something I've been working on throughout the year, and I'm hoping to finish this as soon as I can because I'm extremely aware that the site needs a big overhaul. However, my day job has been very hectic this year which has meant that I've had far less free time available than in previous years to work on BEA and the site update is an extremely large piece of work. I'm still committed to finishing it, it's just taking a lot longer than it should.