Best Ever Albums

Re: Astral Weeks vs. Any Bob Dylan Album

leechris — Mon, 25 Jan 2016 11:52:06 GMT

Author: leechris

Posted: 01/25/2016 16:52

This album would beat most other artists. I would give it to Dylan based on Highway 61 Revisited which has far more impact then Astral Weeks. Indeed, not sure Astral Weeks would be possible without Dylan. Madame George wouldn't exist without Desolation Row.

Re: Astral Weeks vs. Any Bob Dylan Album

Grzywa — Mon, 25 Jan 2016 02:54:01 GMT

Author: Grzywa

Posted: 01/25/2016 07:54

odinoo wrote:

Van Morrison >>>> Bob Dylan >>>>>>>>>>>> The Beatles

Rolling Stones fans think Rolling Stones are better then Beatles
Pink Floyd fans think Pink Floyd are better then Beatles
Led Zeppelin fans think Led Zeppelin are better then Beatles
Radiohead fans think Radiohead are better then Beatles
Bob Dylan fans think Bob Dylan are better then Beatles
and now Van Morrison fans think Van Morrison are better then Beatles

... for some reason, it's always The Beatles. I love how they come up even in a Van Morrison vs. Dylan thread 🤣

Re: Astral Weeks vs. Any Bob Dylan Album

odinoo — Sun, 24 Jan 2016 16:22:24 GMT

Author: odinoo

Posted: 01/24/2016 21:22

Grzywa wrote:

The Beatles >/= Dylan > Van Morrison.

Van Morrison >>>> Bob Dylan >>>>>>>>>>>> The Beatles

Re: Astral Weeks vs. Any Bob Dylan Album

Grzywa — Sun, 24 Jan 2016 02:29:40 GMT

Author: Grzywa

Posted: 01/24/2016 07:29

The Beatles >/= Dylan > Van Morrison.

Re: Astral Weeks vs. Any Bob Dylan Album

alelsupreme — Sat, 23 Jan 2016 23:33:58 GMT

Author: alelsupreme

Posted: 01/24/2016 04:33

I prefer Astral Weeks to anything by Dylan (and indeed to pretty much almost every album I've ever heard) but like I wouldn't say that Dylan's 60's work is an obvious thing to compare Astral Weeks with. Musically, Astral is softer, more freeform, and very informed by jazz. Dylan's meanwhile is more conventional, with a more obvious rock influence. Lyrically too, Van is more about the emotional impact of the words, whereas Dylan focuses much more on narrative, and even when he goes for more abstract lyrical structures they still have a poetic quality to them.

Re: Astral Weeks vs. Any Bob Dylan Album

eclab — Sat, 23 Jan 2016 21:51:49 GMT

Author: eclab

Posted: 01/24/2016 02:51

For me it's Moondance > Highway 61 Revisited > Astral Weeks > Blood on the Tracks > the rest

Re: Astral Weeks vs. Any Bob Dylan Album

odinoo — Sat, 23 Jan 2016 21:05:29 GMT

Author: odinoo

Posted: 01/24/2016 02:05

Patman360 wrote:

I feel that Veedon Fleece/Astral Weeks/Highway 61 Revisited/Blonde On Blonde/The Freewheelin' Bob Dylan/Desire/Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band/Rubber Soul are all albums I rate as 100/100 perfect and how I rank them will vary based on my mood and so on.

I don't think the Beatles are comparable to Morrison/Dylan - the music has always been a bit contrived in my opinion, especially Sgt. Pepper's. Morrison recently called The Beatles "peripheral" to musicians in the 60's and that's how I've always thought of The Beatles. Influential and understandably successful in popular music, but peripheral to what songwriters like Morrison/Dylan and their music simply wasn't as good.

Re: Astral Weeks vs. Any Bob Dylan Album

Patman360 — Sat, 23 Jan 2016 19:26:01 GMT

Author: Patman360

Posted: 01/24/2016 00:26

I feel that Veedon Fleece/Astral Weeks/Highway 61 Revisited/Blonde On Blonde/The Freewheelin' Bob Dylan/Desire/Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band/Rubber Soul are all albums I rate as 100/100 perfect and how I rank them will vary based on my mood and so on.

Re: Astral Weeks vs. Any Bob Dylan Album

Anonymous — Sat, 23 Jan 2016 18:57:34 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 01/23/2016 23:57

I'll approach this subject like this: In the US, Astral Weeks only reached gold while both Bob Dylan and The Beatles have platinum albums - The Beatles even has some diamond albums. So that right there says that the masses wouldn't say that Astral Weeks is better than any album in either Bob Dylan's or The Beatles' discographies. Now, as far as me, these artists aren't really what I would normally listen to, but I would turn on a Bob Dylan or Beatles' record before Astral Weeks.

Re: Astral Weeks vs. Any Bob Dylan Album

AAL2014 — Sat, 23 Jan 2016 18:33:04 GMT

Author: AAL2014

Posted: 01/23/2016 23:33

babyBlueSedan wrote:

Blood on the Tracks is better than Astral Weeks, if only because I find it more relatable. Musically Astral Weeks probably wins but it doesn't have Idiot Wind or Tangled Up in Blue. Or Simple Twist of Fate. Or Buckets of Rain. Or...

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Re: Astral Weeks vs. Any Bob Dylan Album

AAL2014 — Sat, 23 Jan 2016 18:31:22 GMT

Author: AAL2014

Posted: 01/23/2016 23:31

I think Astral Weeks is fantastic but there are three or four Dylan records that continually blow my mind. Not saying in fact they are better than Astral Weeks but I go back to them much more often.

Re: Astral Weeks vs. Any Bob Dylan Album

babyBlueSedan — Sat, 23 Jan 2016 16:39:01 GMT

Author: babyBlueSedan

Posted: 01/23/2016 21:39

Blood on the Tracks is better than Astral Weeks, if only because I find it more relatable. Musically Astral Weeks probably wins but it doesn't have Idiot Wind or Tangled Up in Blue. Or Simple Twist of Fate. Or Buckets of Rain. Or...

I'd probably take Astral Weeks over any other Dylan album though, except maaaaaybe Bringing It All Back Home.

Re: Astral Weeks vs. Any Bob Dylan Album

louisjwyatt — Sat, 23 Jan 2016 15:36:41 GMT

Author: louisjwyatt

Posted: 01/23/2016 20:36

If we're just arbitrarily comparing these albums, I think Highway 61 is better than all of them.

Re: Astral Weeks vs. Any Bob Dylan Album

odinoo — Sat, 23 Jan 2016 15:08:21 GMT

Author: odinoo

Posted: 01/23/2016 20:08

badseed wrote:

Wut?

Yeah this is silly.

Astral Weeks goes back and forth with whatever my favorite Dylan album is at the time. Perfection is perfection.

Astral Weeks > Highway 61, Times They Are a-Changin', Blonde on Blonde > Any Beatles Album

I don't think Dylan's best record is level with Astral Weeks.

Re: Astral Weeks vs. Any Bob Dylan Album

odinoo — Sat, 23 Jan 2016 14:47:22 GMT

Author: odinoo

Posted: 01/23/2016 19:47

He's underrated in total impact and importance in music history, where The Beatles are overrated.

Morrison had a significant impact on rock music and notably Jim Morrison of The Doors - who emulated his performing and singing style from Them, after touring together. Many people would list Springsteen as a more influential artist than Morrison, who likewise emulated his songwriting style and hired musicians from Astral Weeks.

Dylan is Morrison's peer and a great artist, but Morrison's best record and songwriting is still in a different category than Dylan's, in my opinion. And the extent of Morrison's influence is not accurately noted by many.

Re: Astral Weeks vs. Any Bob Dylan Album

Skinny — Sat, 23 Jan 2016 13:27:27 GMT

Author: Skinny

Posted: 01/23/2016 18:27

Maybe Veedon Fleece. Not Astral Weeks.

Re: Astral Weeks vs. Any Bob Dylan Album

RoundTheBend — Sat, 23 Jan 2016 13:24:23 GMT

Author: RoundTheBend

Posted: 01/23/2016 18:24

I personally would take the MUSIC of Morrison over Dylan any day.

Lyrics... well Dylan any day.

I still voted Astral Weeks. I'd prefer to listen to Astral Weeks, then Moondance, and then The Times Are A Changin' (my favorite Dylan album).

Re: Astral Weeks vs. Any Bob Dylan Album

Anonymous — Sat, 23 Jan 2016 13:21:18 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 01/23/2016 18:21

badseed wrote:

Wut?

Yeah this is silly.

sure, but only because Dylan was still releasing music in the '80s and filled his discography with some truly abysmal records. i would take any Dylan album from the sixties over any Beatles record by a wide, wide margin.

Re: Astral Weeks vs. Any Bob Dylan Album

badseed — Sat, 23 Jan 2016 13:19:34 GMT

Author: badseed

Posted: 01/23/2016 18:19

odinoo wrote:

Any Bob Dylan Album > Any Beatles Album

Wut?

Yeah this is silly.

Astral Weeks goes back and forth with whatever my favorite Dylan album is at the time. Perfection is perfection.

Re: Astral Weeks vs. Any Bob Dylan Album

louisjwyatt — Sat, 23 Jan 2016 13:01:31 GMT

Author: louisjwyatt

Posted: 01/23/2016 18:01

And yeah, Van Morrison is incredibly popular. Underrated isn't really a word that comes to mind. If being less popular than Bob Dylan makes you underrated basically every artist, save maybe the Beatles, would be considered underrated.