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Re: nationality and music

albummaster — Fri, 13 Apr 2012 04:48:37 GMT

Author: albummaster

Posted: 04/13/2012 08:48

One useless fact is that flamenco's roots were from Indian music (from gypsies who settled in Andalucia), if you listen to the rhythms you can still hear the similarity. I enjoy listening to a lot Indian music, particularly the percussion and the interesting beats.

Re: nationality and music

RoundTheBend — Fri, 13 Apr 2012 04:05:21 GMT

Author: RoundTheBend

Posted: 04/13/2012 08:05

I speak German and appreciate a lot of German music. But I do agree that I don't "gel" with German music on a whole as well as I do with American/British/Australian/Irish/Canadian/Scottish, etc. music.

I would like to take this a bit further and argue that although we live in an age that understands racism as one of the worst paradigms one could waste their time viewing the world from, we have kinda gone back to the days of the 50s when white people listened to white music and well, you get the point.

There is a thread on here about hip-hop being under appreciated, and I think it is because whitey can't play the funky music. I remember going to see U2 with Black Eyed Peas opening for them. That didn't mix with the crowd well because "hip-hop" is black folk music and not on par with U2. We look to artists like Jimi Hendrix and Little Richard and say, oh ya, I like black musicians, but it is more like, I like the white accepted black musicians.

Don't get me wrong- I am sure every white person on here could name a black artist they like. I am not saying that they couldn't. What I am saying is, is I think there is still a prejudice and segregation with "white" music and "black" music.

Re: nationality and music

Chemical Smile — Thu, 12 Apr 2012 17:53:41 GMT

Author: Chemical Smile

Posted: 04/12/2012 21:53

lancashirearab wrote:

I have bumped this old topic because I feel that I have a strong affection to Scottish bands in comparison to other UK bands. I have asked the mods to consider splitting the UK nationality into one each for the 4 home nations. What do you
think? My charts have a heavy weighting towards Scottish bands in relation to Scotland's small population. It would be nice to be able to show that on the site.

I'm half Scottish (me & my brother being the only born outside the ol' country), 2 of my favourite bands are from Scotland: Frightened Rabbit & Idlewild.
Growing up in NZ i have a huge passion for NZ music - specifically from the '90's - and despite Polythene Pams immature, misguided views on those artists, i strongly urge people to check out said artists - i still listen to most of them to this day!

Re: nationality and music

RyanF1 — Thu, 12 Apr 2012 16:09:19 GMT

Author: RyanF1

Posted: 04/12/2012 20:09

I think I definitely do show some bias towards Scottish albums, I'm one of only 10 people to have High Land, Hard Rain by Aztec Camera on my chart 🤣 but it's only natural to favour artists from your own country. Being Scottish, there's [;enty of good music to choose from 😉

Re: nationality and music

Facetious — Wed, 11 Apr 2012 23:57:39 GMT

Author: Facetious

Posted: 04/12/2012 03:57

Mind Movie wrote:

I listen to a lot of hindustani classical music.

I listen to that a bit only. Mostly to get a taste of what the classics from the countries around me are too.

Re: nationality and music

Anonymous — Wed, 11 Apr 2012 14:55:30 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 04/11/2012 18:55

I listen to a lot of hindustani classical music.

Re: nationality and music

Anonymous — Wed, 11 Apr 2012 13:38:19 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 04/11/2012 17:38

I think everyone should expand his/her taste of music, but the kind of music which is popular everywhere today, i.e. western pop/rock music, has its roots in a certain culture and these genres are represented better in the west and specially in the English language. So trying to find better albums of these genres in Eastern countries, IMO, won't be so fruitful. But other genres, specially national/traditional music can provide us with great stuff, such as Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan and Alim Qasimov.

I live in Iran and I can assure you that there is no album in pop/rock genres worth listening to here, so don't search for it. No Persian rock album can get a 20 out of 100 rating from me.

Re: nationality and music

junodog4 — Wed, 11 Apr 2012 13:34:57 GMT

Author: junodog4

Posted: 04/11/2012 17:34

I know I'm nationalistic regarding Canadian albums. They are scattered throughout my chart, and I feel all warm and fuzzy when non-Canadians like them. We have this weird fixation on whether America recognizes our music. Sadly, apart from Arcade Fire and the classics (Neil Young, Joni Mitchell, Leonard Cohen), most of the stuff that crosses the border is shite (Celine Dion, Nickleback, Justin Beiber, Bryan Adams). There's so much quality here beyond Arcade Fire, you can forgive me if I flog it a bit too much.

Re: nationality and music

Anonymous — Wed, 11 Apr 2012 13:15:32 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 04/11/2012 17:15

At the moment, my overall music knowledge is poor but.. as someone born and raised in America (and therefore being most exposed to American music), today I only remain a strong liking to three of their bands/artists: Neutral Milk Hotel, Joanna Newsom, and Liars. I sort of like Sonic Youth, Flaming Lips, and Pixies and listen to them on occasion but it seems that none of their albums will ultimately make my chart. Maybe Sonic Youth.

So far I'm too ashamed to make my chart public but... right now it slightly favors the UK. I've grown tired of English speaking music as of late though, so I'm spending more time checking out other countries. I absolutely love the band Boredoms from Japan. Highly, highly underrated in the overall bands and albums charts.

Re: nationality and music

Facetious — Wed, 11 Apr 2012 13:04:00 GMT

Author: Facetious

Posted: 04/11/2012 17:04

Pakistan is not exactly know for making the most brilliant albums 😕

Some Pakistani artists have become famous (Junoon, Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan, etc.) but the focus is more on songs and single tracks, not albums. Which is why original albums of artists are really hard to find here.

Re: nationality and music

lancashirearab — Wed, 11 Apr 2012 12:48:08 GMT

Author: lancashirearab

Posted: 04/11/2012 16:48

I have bumped this old topic because I feel that I have a strong affection to Scottish bands in comparison to other UK bands. I have asked the mods to consider splitting the UK nationality into one each for the 4 home nations. What do you
think? My charts have a heavy weighting towards Scottish bands in relation to Scotland's small population. It would be nice to be able to show that on the site.

Re: nationality and music

Anonymous — Sat, 11 Jun 2011 13:38:06 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 06/11/2011 17:38

also saw the Ruby Suns live once and they're a pretty great NZ band.
Link

Re: nationality and music

Anonymous — Sat, 11 Jun 2011 10:26:01 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 06/11/2011 14:26

Chemical Smile wrote:

Hayden wrote:

Polythene Pam wrote:

It's strange and sad that most of us have a reasonably good understanding of American and British music and then our own particular country (provided you are not from the main two) and then not much else.

Having said that, not much music is made here that I like and the "Classic" New Zealand albums are awful

What are some examples of classic New Zealand albums? Might check some out for fun :)

Being a kiwi myself, i can't agree with the statement about classic NZ albums being awful! During the 90's there was a huge variety of different types of music - bands/artisits that had they been in either UK or US would have been very popular, but given that NZ is a small country and there wasn't much money in the music industry most of these groups never broke out of their home country - some not even getting nation airplay even. I think the last 10 years more and more NZ bands/artists have broken out onto the international circuit and found some success.
Some of my favourite music is from 80's/90's NZ bands, if anyone's interested, i defnitely recommend the following:

Straitjacket Fits - from Dunedin, 1986-94. This is one of those bands that had they been English or American would have been huge. They had some international success, but not as much as they deserve - check out "Life In One Chord", "She Speeds" and the amazingly beautiful "Down in Splendour"

Garageland - from Auckland, 1994-2001. Their debut album is on my chart and continues to be one of my favourites of all time.

Bailterspace - from Christchurch, 1987-2001. Noisy shoe-gaze of My Bloody Valentine with the poppier side of Sonic Youth. The loudest band I have ever seen live! From wikipedia: "When they played at the same size venue as Motörhead they required four extra P.A. sound systems".
Best songs are 'X', 'Splat', 'Retro'

Shihad - Wellington, 1988- . Easily NZ's biggest and best band. Well known for their live sets - easily the best live band i've ever seen. They have also changed their style from album to album, first 2 albums are very heavy/industrial to more poppy rock of the 3rd. To hear them live, check out their live album "Pacifier Live".

Others worth checking out:

Indie/Rock/Punk
Weta
Superette 🙁
Stereobus/JPS Experience
The Bats
The Clean
Split Enz 🙁
Toy Love
Exponents 🙁
The Feelers 🙁
Head Like A Hole 🙁
Mutton Birds 🙁
Phoenix Foundation 😄
Supergroove 🙁

Solo Artists
Chris Knox 🙁
Dave Dobbin 🙁 🙁 🤬 😠
Tin Finn 🙁
Bic Runga 😄
Liam Finn 🙁
Anika Moa 🙁

Drum+Bass/Dub/Electronic
Fat Freddys Drop 😎
Salmonella Dub 😄
Shapeshifter 🙁
Pitch Black
Concord Dawn 😄
State Of Mind
MT Eden Dubstep 🤬
Strawpeople

Reggae/Roots
Black Seeds 🙁
Katchafire 😄
Kora 🙁
Rhombus 🙁
Trinity Roots 🙁
Unity Pacific 🙁

Hip Hop
Scribe 🤬
King Kapisi
Che Fu 🙁
Deceptikonz

There, I've done my bit... 8-[

Just my thoughts

Well you certinaly listen to more NZ music than me 😁

I only like Bailterspace (and not that much) form the paragraph bands though

And I guess the emoticons speak for themselves

Still for a list of NZ bands/artists to checkout this is very good 😁

Re: nationality and music

Chemical Smile — Fri, 10 Jun 2011 05:56:51 GMT

Author: Chemical Smile

Posted: 06/10/2011 09:56

a few youtube videos:

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Re: nationality and music

Chemical Smile — Fri, 10 Jun 2011 05:44:32 GMT

Author: Chemical Smile

Posted: 06/10/2011 09:44

Hayden wrote:

Polythene Pam wrote:

What are some examples of classic New Zealand albums? Might check some out for fun :)

Being a kiwi myself, i can't agree with the statement about classic NZ albums being awful! During the 90's there was a huge variety of different types of music - bands/artisits that had they been in either UK or US would have been very popular, but given that NZ is a small country and there wasn't much money in the music industry most of these groups never broke out of their home country - some not even getting nation airplay even. I think the last 10 years more and more NZ bands/artists have broken out onto the international circuit and found some success.
Some of my favourite music is from 80's/90's NZ bands, if anyone's interested, i defnitely recommend the following:

Straitjacket Fits - from Dunedin, 1986-94. This is one of those bands that had they been English or American would have been huge. They had some international success, but not as much as they deserve - check out "Life In One Chord", "She Speeds" and the amazingly beautiful "Down in Splendour"

Garageland - from Auckland, 1994-2001. Their debut album is on my chart and continues to be one of my favourites of all time.

Bailterspace - from Christchurch, 1987-2001. Noisy shoe-gaze of My Bloody Valentine with the poppier side of Sonic Youth. The loudest band I have ever seen live! From wikipedia: "When they played at the same size venue as Motörhead they required four extra P.A. sound systems".
Best songs are 'X', 'Splat', 'Retro'

Shihad - Wellington, 1988- . Easily NZ's biggest and best band. Well known for their live sets - easily the best live band i've ever seen. They have also changed their style from album to album, first 2 albums are very heavy/industrial to more poppy rock of the 3rd. To hear them live, check out their live album "Pacifier Live".

Others worth checking out:

Indie/Rock/Punk
Weta
Superette
Stereobus/JPS Experience
The Bats
The Clean
Split Enz
Toy Love
Exponents
The Feelers
Head Like A Hole
Mutton Birds
Phoenix Foundation
Supergroove

Solo Artists
Chris Knox
Dave Dobbin
Tin Finn
Bic Runga
Liam Finn
Anika Moa

Drum+Bass/Dub/Electronic
Fat Freddys Drop
Salmonella Dub
Shapeshifter
Pitch Black
Concord Dawn
State Of Mind
MT Eden Dubstep
Strawpeople

Reggae/Roots
Black Seeds
Katchafire
Kora
Rhombus
Trinity Roots
Unity Pacific

Hip Hop
Scribe
King Kapisi
Che Fu
Deceptikonz

There, I've done my bit... 😨

Re: nationality and music

videoheadcleaner — Fri, 10 Jun 2011 03:55:19 GMT

Author: videoheadcleaner

Posted: 06/10/2011 07:55

Went to the North Island for our honeymoon.

Will go back and experience the south soon.

Bought a Split Enz album and The Earlybirds album while I was there.

Re: nationality and music

Anonymous — Thu, 9 Jun 2011 09:44:54 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 06/09/2011 13:44

purple wrote:

No, my thesis advisor just got back from Christchurch a couple weeks ago, he's been telling me stories about what they were doing in the field, the quake that destroyed that city's downtown, etc. And what is uni?

University

So yeah I guess it was what you were talking about

Over here we have primary school

Then College (high school for you guys)

Then University (or College for you guys)

Re: nationality and music

Anonymous — Thu, 9 Jun 2011 09:42:04 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 06/09/2011 13:42

No, my thesis advisor just got back from Christchurch a couple weeks ago, he's been telling me stories about what they were doing in the field, the quake that destroyed that city's downtown, etc. And what is uni?

Re: nationality and music

Anonymous — Thu, 9 Jun 2011 09:36:57 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 06/09/2011 13:36

purple wrote:

where in NZ are you from, Pam?

Wellington, Best city over here 😎

Have you been?

Or is it to do with uni?

(I think I remember you mentioning something)

Re: nationality and music

Anonymous — Thu, 9 Jun 2011 09:30:36 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 06/09/2011 13:30

where in NZ are you from, Pam?