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Re: "Uncool" bands that you happen to love.

glynspsa — Fri, 14 Jul 2017 07:51:25 GMT

Author: glynspsa

Posted: 07/14/2017 11:51

i dont hate dave mathews band, i certainly don't love them but i don't hate them either. i think they are ok. i like circles around the sun, a Neal Casal side project. Their one album interlude for the dead was on 2 different lists i saw for most pointless and worst albums of 2015. I have it in my top 100, it is all instrumental double album of fairly spacey tunes but i LOVE it.

Re: "Uncool" bands that you happen to love.

bobbyb5 — Fri, 14 Jul 2017 05:33:37 GMT

Author: bobbyb5

Posted: 07/14/2017 09:33

buzzdainer wrote:

I'm always hearing people say that Deafheaven are "black metal for people who hate black metal" or "black metal for gay hipsters". And it seems to me that a lot of people are really pissed off that Sunbather was the most critically acclaimed album on Metacritic in 2013.[/quote]

I'm familiar with this line of criticism, so I think I'm persuaded that, at least in some circles, Deafheaven is an uncool band. I'm a fan of Digable Planets, and I remember seeing them at one point in the #1 spot on a list of "hip hop artists for people who don't like hip hop." Which is a concept that just plain confuses me.[/quote]

That concept confused me at one time me, too. Because a few years ago someone was at my house one day and they asked me as they looked through my CDs, ",Is this the only hip hop you have?" And they said that it was the kind of hip-hop that people who don't like hip hop like, and I asked why, but they really didn't have a good explanation. They just said "well this is the kind of Hip Hop for people who don't like hip hop". And I asked if it was considered bad music, and he said "No, it's good. People think it's good". I said " So what's the problem?" And it was just stuff that I really liked at the time like Prince Paul, Handsome Boy Modeling School, Doctor Doom Kool Keith, that type of thing. It confused me. So, I have heard that concept before. I'm not saying I understand it, but I have heard of it before.

Re: "Uncool" bands that you happen to love.

Daydreamer — Fri, 14 Jul 2017 05:13:54 GMT

Author: Daydreamer

Posted: 07/14/2017 09:13

sethmadsen wrote:

Daydreamer wrote:

sethmadsen wrote:

I feel like I'm constantly defending The Beatles and U2.

Both on this site and in real life. Most of real life was: I don't like Twist and Shout so I don't like the Beatles (or I don't like hippies) or I don't like With or Without You, so I don't like U2.

U2 is uncool, but The Beatles I think are not. Not many love them, but everyone respects them.

Beatles in many ways are the antithesis of cool. It's Dadrock. It's stuff your mom listens to... yada yada yada... Well and then here, you have they are just another trash pop group, Scaruffi is god, yada yada yada. I remember it was "fantastic" news that Paul McCartney was kicked out of some rapper's party cause nobody knew who this middle aged man was.

U2 admits they are uncool - when majority in the 80s were hairspray/glamour shot/pop stars, they were wearing the flannel and ripped jeans, and then in the 90s when everyone was wearing ripped jeans and flannel, they were mocking the pop stars of the 80s. But then you have this hatred of Bono (which to be honest I don't REALLY get... I mean I kind of get... but Bono is totally Justin Bieber to most people. Bono might as well be a backstreet boy in the eyes of these people, yet he totally isn't and that part I don't get. Is he a frontman of a big rock band, so he's quite full of himself, you bet... but so are like 504 other frontmen, yet they don't get the label he does. I don't know... I just don't get the U2 is utter garbage mentality and feel I constantly have to defend that. Having said that Coldplay on the other hand... they've totally turned to garbage and I have no qualms stating such. The worst part though is seeing someone rip U2 and then they have an Oasis album on their charts.

I really like U2, but I totally get why people hate Bono. He somehow became bigger than the band, with his charity work and his political views and was in a way to direct and in your face - like he wanted you to think he's such a great great guy. Also I know people who dislike his singing because it's so theatrical and over the top with his wailing and shouting that it sounds insincere. It's a legit opinion, even if I disagree. He does kind of a douchebag to me, but his voice is amazing.

Re: "Uncool" bands that you happen to love.

buzzdainer — Fri, 14 Jul 2017 00:58:19 GMT

Author: buzzdainer

Posted: 07/14/2017 04:58

[/quote]I'm always hearing people say that Deafheaven are "black metal for people who hate black metal" or "black metal for gay hipsters". And it seems to me that a lot of people are really pissed off that Sunbather was the most critically acclaimed album on Metacritic in 2013.[/quote]

I'm familiar with this line of criticism, so I think I'm persuaded that, at least in some circles, Deafheaven is an uncool band. I'm a fan of Digable Planets, and I remember seeing them at one point in the #1 spot on a list of "hip hop artists for people who don't like hip hop." Which is a concept that just plain confuses me.

Re: "Uncool" bands that you happen to love.

RoundTheBend — Fri, 14 Jul 2017 00:02:06 GMT

Author: RoundTheBend

Posted: 07/14/2017 04:02

Daydreamer wrote:

sethmadsen wrote:

U2 is uncool, but The Beatles I think are not. Not many love them, but everyone respects them.

Re: "Uncool" bands that you happen to love.

Daydreamer — Thu, 13 Jul 2017 06:45:32 GMT

Author: Daydreamer

Posted: 07/13/2017 10:45

sethmadsen wrote:

U2 is uncool, but The Beatles I think are not. Not many love them, but everyone respects them.

Re: "Uncool" bands that you happen to love.

RoundTheBend — Wed, 12 Jul 2017 22:17:51 GMT

Author: RoundTheBend

Posted: 07/13/2017 02:17

I feel like I'm constantly defending The Beatles and U2.

Both on this site and in real life. Most of real life was: I don't like Twist and Shout so I don't like the Beatles (or I don't like hippies) or I don't like With or Without You, so I don't like U2.

Re: "Uncool" bands that you happen to love.

Anonymous — Wed, 12 Jul 2017 18:28:30 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 07/12/2017 22:28

LordMark wrote:

And it seems to me that a lot of people are really pissed off that Sunbather was the most critically acclaimed album on Metacritic in 2013.

I mean, this is true enough, but (God help me entering this fray again) Deafheaven isn't really a metal band, so I understand the frustration of people who build their identity around listening to metal music feeling like people are being posers claiming to like metal music and then listing Deafheaven (a post-rock band with weird vocals), Agalloch (a neofolk band with weird vocals), and Alcest (a dream pop band with weird vocals) as their favorite metal bands.

Re: "Uncool" bands that you happen to love.

LordMark — Wed, 12 Jul 2017 18:22:32 GMT

Author: LordMark

Posted: 07/12/2017 22:22

murmur wrote:

it's an online trope that "true" metalheads really dislike Deafheaven and the genre of blackgaze as a whole and deride them as "cheater" bands that people who don't really like metal use to feign interest in black metal, which is a historically insular and challenging genre that you typically wouldn't see on the front page of Pitchfork, for example.

but it's really subjective if people who read a ton of Pitchfork are more or less cool than people who listen to a lot of Immortal

Re: "Uncool" bands that you happen to love.

Anonymous — Wed, 12 Jul 2017 18:02:29 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 07/12/2017 22:02

buzzdainer wrote:

I hear you on most of these, but Deafheaven, really? They seem to be beloved by all the cool metal heads I know. But this brings us back to what we consider "cool," which I know is subjective.

Re: "Uncool" bands that you happen to love.

buzzdainer — Wed, 12 Jul 2017 17:56:04 GMT

Author: buzzdainer

Posted: 07/12/2017 21:56

LordMark wrote:

Arctic Monkeys
Billy Talent
Bush
Coldplay
Deafheaven
Green Day
Marilyn Manson
Oasis
Weezer

I hear you on most of these, but Deafheaven, really? They seem to be beloved by all the cool metal heads I know. But this brings us back to what we consider "cool," which I know is subjective.

Re: "Uncool" bands that you happen to love.

bobbyb5 — Wed, 12 Jul 2017 17:28:31 GMT

Author: bobbyb5

Posted: 07/12/2017 21:28

LordMark wrote:

Arctic Monkeys
Billy Talent
Bush
Coldplay
Deafheaven
Green Day
Marilyn Manson
Oasis
Weezer

Funny how things change so much, because the only one of those bands who were considered uncool at the time of their popularity would be bush. Im surprised to hear that some of these are considered uncool now. And I have to admit I don't know who Billy Talent is so I can't comment on that.

Re: "Uncool" bands that you happen to love.

LordMark — Wed, 12 Jul 2017 14:44:42 GMT

Author: LordMark

Posted: 07/12/2017 18:44

Arctic Monkeys
Billy Talent
Bush
Coldplay
Deafheaven
Green Day
Marilyn Manson
Oasis
Weezer

Re: "Uncool" bands that you happen to love.

bobbyb5 — Wed, 12 Jul 2017 13:20:18 GMT

Author: bobbyb5

Posted: 07/12/2017 17:20

Fischman wrote:

All you youngsters...
...none of these groups can even begin to compare to the levels of uncool of yesteryear

In my day, it took real guts to stand up and declare your love for ... The Carpenters!

You can't go wrong with the Carpenters album called "The Singles (70-73)" or something like that. It only has one or two shitty songs on it and the other 9 or 10 are completely fantastic.

Re: "Uncool" bands that you happen to love.

Fischman — Wed, 12 Jul 2017 12:58:34 GMT

Author: Fischman

Posted: 07/12/2017 16:58

All you youngsters...
...none of these groups can even begin to compare to the levels of uncool of yesteryear

In my day, it took real guts to stand up and declare your love for ... The Carpenters!

Re: "Uncool" bands that you happen to love.

bobbyb5 — Wed, 12 Jul 2017 12:49:17 GMT

Author: bobbyb5

Posted: 07/12/2017 16:49

glynspsa wrote:

I like the Spin Doctors and the Fat Boys, I also like Huey Lewis and the News another band many consider cheesy. Oh and Bobby I just learned U2 was now considered cheesy. I like some of their albums.

I wonder what they mean by cheesy. They think theyre too pop or too old fashioned. Actually, i was surprised when Beautiful Day came out, because i couldnt i believe they made something kind of light and airy and melodic rather than the plodding, bombastic sludge they were famous for.

Re: "Uncool" bands that you happen to love.

Luigii — Wed, 12 Jul 2017 12:31:16 GMT

Author: Luigii

Posted: 07/12/2017 16:31

I also want to add how U2 album in 2014 was added to many itunes owners without even buying the damn thing.
But on the situation of Uncool band that I liked, mine would probably be the Black Eyed Peas. Even thought I do think some of the hatred is justified considering that there album from 2010 was one of the biggest piece of shit that I have ever heard.

Re: "Uncool" bands that you happen to love.

glynspsa — Wed, 12 Jul 2017 12:20:47 GMT

Author: glynspsa

Posted: 07/12/2017 16:20

I like the Spin Doctors and the Fat Boys, I also like Huey Lewis and the News another band many consider cheesy. Oh and Bobby I just learned U2 was now considered cheesy. I like some of their albums.

Re: "Uncool" bands that you happen to love.

bobbyb5 — Wed, 12 Jul 2017 12:15:00 GMT

Author: bobbyb5

Posted: 07/12/2017 16:15

Infinity183 wrote:

They're certainly reviled nowadays, what with their selling out and Bono's extreme pretentiousness, but back in the 1980s, they were easily one of the most respected bands to come out of the post-punk movement.

Well, the reason I'm surprised that U2 are reviled is because I know how respected they used to be back in the 80s. Even in the nineties. And the funny thing is; that's exactly the time period I MYSELF used to revile them. But I decided they weren't worth reviling anymore. I find them a lot less pretentious nowadays then I did back in the eighties. At least their music isn't nearly as pompous as it used to be. Go figure.

Re: "Uncool" bands that you happen to love.

Infinity183 — Wed, 12 Jul 2017 12:04:51 GMT

Author: Infinity183

Posted: 07/12/2017 16:04

bobbyb5 wrote:

I must be so out of touch. I wasn't even aware that U2 were reviled. I know that Coldplay is. I didn't know U2 was tho. Oh well, I'm in my forties: Give me a break 😐 :lol: