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Re: GENRES defined by links to a single band.

bobbyb5 — Tue, 1 Aug 2017 12:32:03 GMT

Author: bobbyb5

Posted: 08/01/2017 16:32

Captain_Dude wrote:

Yep. That's what I figured would happen.... sigh.

The whole reason why I just said "garage" music (notice that music is not part of the quoted area) is that I didn't want ten people telling me that the Ramones aren't "garage rock."

But, then again, Little Steven doesn't call his station "Little Steven's Underground All-Things-Related-to-How-the-Ramones-Got-Their-Sound-and-Influenced-Others Station"

I thought after giving the Black Sabbath example, it'd be clear.

Oh, well...I tried for a conversation...

And you did succeed in starting a conversation We had a conversation about garage bands and about Garage Band compilations and Nuggets and oldies radio and all kinds of shit. 😎

Re: GENRES defined by links to a single band.

bobbyb5 — Tue, 1 Aug 2017 11:55:19 GMT

Author: bobbyb5

Posted: 08/01/2017 15:55

Captain_Dude wrote:

Yeah, but what about my example about the folk rock thing? And bob dylan? What about that? 🤔

Re: GENRES defined by links to a single band.

Captain_Dude — Tue, 1 Aug 2017 11:32:48 GMT

Author: Captain_Dude

Posted: 08/01/2017 15:32

Yep. That's what I figured would happen.... sigh.

The whole reason why I just said "garage" music (notice that music is not part of the quoted area) is that I didn't want ten people telling me that the Ramones aren't "garage rock."

But, then again, Little Steven doesn't call his station "Little Steven's Underground All-Things-Related-to-How-the-Ramones-Got-Their-Sound-and-Influenced-Others Station"

I thought after giving the Black Sabbath example, it'd be clear.

Oh, well...I tried for a conversation...

Re: GENRES defined by links to a single band.

bobbyb5 — Tue, 1 Aug 2017 08:10:59 GMT

Author: bobbyb5

Posted: 08/01/2017 12:10

[quote="bobbyb5"]

Jimmy Dread wrote:

Err... no.

Garage 'rock' would go right back to the 60s with (as the name would suggest) self-starting proto-punk outfits making a racket in whatever rehearsal space they could find (such as their garage, for example). See here.

As such you're talking about bands like The Monks, The Sonics, The Count Five et al. Raw rock 'n' roll, far from the polished stuff that some of the British Invasion bands were coming up with. This kind of thing (in fact this album is one of my all-time favourite compys):

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'Garage' music as you define it originated at the Paradise Garage club - to explain it simply, it's house music with a bit more soul/R&B feel, although its history is far more complex than that.

I don't know if you're familiar with the Nuggets album, but it's the greatest collection of garage band singles ever. I picked it up when I was a teenager in the late 80s and I was so thrilled to have a collection of all the songs i remembered hearing on oldies radio when I was a little kid. Then I started buying all its imitators, which werent quite as great but still pretty good.

Re: GENRES defined by links to a single band.

bobbyb5 — Tue, 1 Aug 2017 07:36:10 GMT

Author: bobbyb5

Posted: 08/01/2017 11:36

Jimmy Dread wrote:

Oh okay. He was talking about garage BANDS, not garage music. I dont know why I didn't make the connection. probably because nobody used the term "garage music"to refer to garage bands. Nobody said " The Kingsmen make garage music". They just said " Theyre a garage band".

Re: GENRES defined by links to a single band.

Jimmy Dread — Tue, 1 Aug 2017 07:35:43 GMT

Author: Jimmy Dread

Posted: 08/01/2017 11:35

bobbyb5 wrote:

Oh okay. He was talking about garage BANDS, not garage music. I dont no wife know why I didn't make the connection probably because nobody used the terms garage music to refer to garage bands

I think you'll find garage 'rock' is a genre with a long lineage, from The Sonics down to Jay Reatard and beyond...

Re: GENRES defined by links to a single band.

bobbyb5 — Tue, 1 Aug 2017 07:32:58 GMT

Author: bobbyb5

Posted: 08/01/2017 11:32

Jimmy Dread wrote:

Oh okay. He was talking about garage BANDS, not garage music. I dont no wife know why I didn't make the connection probably because nobody used the terms garage music to refer to garage bands

Re: GENRES defined by links to a single band.

Jimmy Dread — Tue, 1 Aug 2017 07:27:51 GMT

Author: Jimmy Dread

Posted: 08/01/2017 11:27

bobbyb5 wrote:

Im not QUITE sure I grasp the concept here. Garage is a type of house music, as in UK Garage or NY Garage. So right off the bat I'm confused as to why he calls Ramones garage music. but anyway, is this what you mean? something like this?

Re: GENRES defined by links to a single band.

bobbyb5 — Tue, 1 Aug 2017 07:17:57 GMT

Author: bobbyb5

Posted: 08/01/2017 11:17

Im not QUITE sure I grasp the concept here. Garage is a type of house music, as in UK Garage or NY Garage. So right off the bat I'm confused as to why he calls Ramones garage music. but anyway, is this what you mean? something like this?

Bob Dylan is linked to folk-rock and country-rock because he made the first examples of these that started entire trends and entire genres. He had a link to the Byrds who were the first Superstars of, first, folk rock and then country-rock. And they in turn inspired groups like Crosby Stills Nash & Young which led to the whole Folk and country rock genres that lasted throughout the entire seventies. Am i grasping the idea or no?

Re: GENRES defined by links to a single band.

Komorebi-D — Tue, 1 Aug 2017 04:01:42 GMT

Author: Komorebi-D

Posted: 08/01/2017 08:01

Deerhunter describe themselves as "ambient punk" on these albums (& EP):

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Cryptograms by Deerhunter

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Fluorescent Grey by Deerhunter

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Microcastle by Deerhunter

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Weird Era Cont. by Deerhunter

I don't know any other band that would either view themselves in this way or pull off the same blend of noise, krautrock, shoegaze, post-punk, ambient & neo-pysch so well. Is this what you're looking for?

Re: GENRES defined by links to a single band.

carpents — Mon, 31 Jul 2017 20:44:23 GMT

Author: carpents

Posted: 08/01/2017 00:44

GbVfi, pretty much the definition of what you're asking!

GENRES defined by links to a single band.

Captain_Dude — Mon, 31 Jul 2017 20:23:09 GMT

Author: Captain_Dude

Posted: 08/01/2017 00:23

I was listening to the SIRIUS XM station (#21) Little Steven's Underground Garage. Little Steven came on and was talking about how many people ask him to define the "garage" music his station plays. His reply was that all of the "garage" music on his station has something in common...it's all connected to the Ramones! It's either music that has inspired the Ramones or music that has been inspired by the Ramones.

I liked his simple definition of "garage" music. I know the Ramones are considered "punk." But, there's a lot of truth to what Little Steven said.

I thought this leads to a good question to ask the group.

Can you think of other bands who provide the same link to a genre as the Ramones did in Little Steven's example?

I think another logical example would be for "heavy metal." Black Sabbath is the link. Listen to XM Radio's Ozzy's Boneyard. Everything they play on there either inspired Black Sabbath (Hendrix, Blue Cheer, Cream) or was inspired by Black Sabbath (Metallica, Alice In Chains, Kyuss)

Okay, can you think of other essential links out there to specific genres?? I think this would be a great discussion. 😁 (Try to spend more effort of coming up with the link and less time over arguing how the genre should be defined, okay? Sheesh...I know how you folks get. lol)