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Re: Johnny Marr or Robert Smith?

RoundTheBend — Tue, 6 Feb 2018 23:13:32 GMT

Author: RoundTheBend

Posted: 02/07/2018 04:13

Tilly wrote:

Robert Smith is pretty much the answer to every question.

Robert Smith is 42.

Re: Johnny Marr or Robert Smith?

bobbyb5 — Tue, 6 Feb 2018 20:00:22 GMT

Author: bobbyb5

Posted: 02/07/2018 01:00

I always hated the Cure.

Re: Johnny Marr or Robert Smith?

CharlieBarley — Tue, 6 Feb 2018 19:19:26 GMT

Author: CharlieBarley

Posted: 02/07/2018 00:19

Jimmy Dread wrote:

Instantly made me think of this skit from the 90s (Christ I feel old now):

Link

Man that takes me back a bit Jimmy! I remember watching that and cracking up.
I remember Baddiel & Newman were like rock stars then and filled stadiums on their tour. The other two were funny too.

Re: Johnny Marr or Robert Smith?

HoldenM — Tue, 6 Feb 2018 18:10:38 GMT

Author: HoldenM

Posted: 02/06/2018 23:10

I mean, they're great for different reasons. Johnny Marr is perhaps among the ten greatest guitarists of the late 20th century. His guitar style is, much like Morrissey's voice, immediately synonymous with The Smiths.

Robert Smith is, instead, a jack of all trades. He'll turn a ragged post punk outfit, turn them into an innovative goth outfit, bring them pop superstars, create an arena-sized magnum opus, and then coast somewhere down the middle for a while.

So, I don't know. I guess I'll go with Robert Smith--especially since I've been on a real Cure kick lately, but honorable mention to Johnny Marr's post-Smiths career, which includes respectable work with Electronic, Modest Mouse, Hans Zimmer, The Cribbs, and others.

Re: Johnny Marr or Robert Smith?

Jimmy Dread — Tue, 6 Feb 2018 11:06:07 GMT

Author: Jimmy Dread

Posted: 02/06/2018 16:06

Stover75 wrote:

So my vote goes to Robert Smith. God of Goth.

Instantly made me think of this skit from the 90s (Christ I feel old now):

Link

Re: Johnny Marr or Robert Smith?

CharlieBarley — Tue, 6 Feb 2018 04:39:59 GMT

Author: CharlieBarley

Posted: 02/06/2018 09:39

Wow. This is like having to choose between cheese and chocolate.

If I were going to start a band I would say Johnny Marr because I would want to be the singer/frontman and I can't play guitar and Mr Marr is brilliantly talented.

But being brutally honest I prefer Robert Smith. As has been said he is a passionate singer, a damned fine lyricist and a good guitarist and all round great musician. Plus he can manage a band well. He has good organisational skills and while not very rock n roll that matters when you're in a band lol.

So my vote goes to Robert Smith. God of Goth.

Re: Johnny Marr or Robert Smith?

travelful — Mon, 5 Feb 2018 20:32:20 GMT

Author: travelful

Posted: 02/06/2018 01:32

Robert Smith and The Cure are far better in my opinion. To me The Smiths are another one of those bands that hipsters bust a nut over but are pretty overrated as a whole. I find Robert Smith lyrics a little more impactful and the atmospheric moody vocals and production much more appealing. Marr is a good guitarist and musician but the songs have little to no variation in strumming styles and are overall fairly predictable and underwhelming. I definitely recognize the influence The Smiths have made in the history of music and they have a good (borderline great) discography. The lyrics aren't nearly as clever and captivating to me as people claim. Jangle pop as a whole isn't really my thing I have found. I honestly would likely enjoy The Smiths much more if people didn't constantly hype them up so much, because now I have this huge expectation from the band that they never lived up to.

Re: Johnny Marr or Robert Smith?

indieshins — Mon, 5 Feb 2018 18:42:47 GMT

Author: indieshins

Posted: 02/05/2018 23:42

I'm not really qualified to answer properly, as I know very little of The Cure's work, but Johnny Marr was my favourite guitarist for a while. His compositional skill on the guitar surpasses a lot of more technically flashy players - he was of equal, if not greater importance to The Smiths sound than Morrissey. Some of the most memorable guitar hooks of the '80's. That being said, I'm going to take a stab and say Robert Smith is a better lyricist and vocalist - and has been mentioned, more diverse.

Re: Johnny Marr or Robert Smith?

Anonymous — Mon, 5 Feb 2018 17:00:06 GMT

Author: Anonymous

Posted: 02/05/2018 22:00

it depends if you want to be the band's frontman or not

I voted Robert Smith

elo269megv — Mon, 5 Feb 2018 16:23:43 GMT

Author: elo269megv

Posted: 02/05/2018 21:23

LedZep wrote:

Both are some of my favourite bands, but The Cure is more diverse and Robert Smith is the sole constant member and songwriter for over 40 years. From goth masterpieces, atmospheric and dark albums to art pop to pure pop singles. And he's done them all brilliantly. Love Marr though, I think he's more responsible for the phenomenon known as "The Smiths" than Morrissey; also today's Morrissey is cringe worthy at times (not the music, rather his actions). Marr is still the coolest guy and fantastic songwriter.

Don't know if I could say it better myself, speaks for itself coming from one such as LedZep... I would take Robert Smith based on longevity of career and creative influence within the Cure. Furthermore, I much prefer the broodiness and dark atmospherics of the Cure compared to that of the jangly guitars of The Smiths.

Re: Johnny Marr or Robert Smith?

Repo — Mon, 5 Feb 2018 15:31:26 GMT

Author: Repo

Posted: 02/05/2018 20:31

Robert Smith is pretty much the answer to every question.

Re: Johnny Marr or Robert Smith?

LedZep — Mon, 5 Feb 2018 15:27:54 GMT

Author: LedZep

Posted: 02/05/2018 20:27

Both are some of my favourite bands, but The Cure is more diverse and Robert Smith is the sole constant member and songwriter for over 40 years. From goth masterpieces, atmospheric and dark albums to art pop to pure pop singles. And he's done them all brilliantly. Love Marr though, I think he's more responsible for the phenomenon known as "The Smiths" than Morrissey; also today's Morrissey is cringe worthy at times (not the music, rather his actions). Marr is still the coolest guy and fantastic songwriter.

Johnny Marr or Robert Smith?

Gageham36 — Mon, 5 Feb 2018 13:13:07 GMT

Author: Gageham36

Posted: 02/05/2018 18:13

My friends and I were having a little debate over who they think is a better musician. When comparing the careers of Johnny Marr of The Smiths and Robert Smith of The Cure. Both hugely successful musicians and respected in their communities so it isn't a question of which band you prefer. It's a question of who and why you think they are a better of musician. Whether it's their ear for a melody, composition ability, lyric writing, critical acclaim, cultural influence, or however you judge their greatness. This isn't a place for hostility, it is a place for a thought provoking discussion. And if it seems to difficult of a decision, if you were starting a band, would you prefer having Robert Smith or Johnny Marr as a member.