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Re: Best Ever Western Films [POLL]

badseed — Fri, 1 Jun 2018 01:10:44 GMT

Author: badseed

Posted: 06/01/2018 05:10

I'm actually busting through this pretty quick. Not many lists and aside from me, Gowi and Chief they're pretty small so I'll see you guys soon.

Re: Best Ever Western Films [POLL]

badseed — Tue, 29 May 2018 08:19:33 GMT

Author: badseed

Posted: 05/29/2018 12:19

No big deal. All I really had to do was subtract 1 point from each of those films' totals.

Anyway yeah sorry for the delay. In between summer hours at work kicking in, Tropical Storm Alberto, and children (and the children's children, aka their grandparents) I've been busy lately. I intended to have everything totaled before the deadline. Anyway let's just let this thread die and then it'll be a pleasant surprise for everyone when the final list randomly shows up in the next couple days.

Re: Best Ever Western Films [POLL]

Hayden — Tue, 29 May 2018 04:51:11 GMT

Author: Hayden

Posted: 05/29/2018 08:51

badseed wrote:

Why did I decide to use a non-erasable pen this time?

Oof. The pain.

Re: Best Ever Western Films [POLL]

CA Dreamin — Tue, 29 May 2018 01:02:56 GMT

Author: CA Dreamin

Posted: 05/29/2018 05:02

badseed wrote:

StreetSpirit wrote:

51. The Proposition (2005)
53. The Sun Shines Bright (1953)

Whoops, let me fix that.

EDIT* Fixed

Re: Best Ever Western Films [POLL]

badseed — Mon, 28 May 2018 22:48:17 GMT

Author: badseed

Posted: 05/29/2018 02:48

StreetSpirit wrote:

51. The Proposition (2005)
53. The Sun Shines Bright (1953)

It took me 5 minutes to figure out why your last place film was receiving 2 points instead of one. Tempted to just put my one of my favorites at #52 just so i dont have to total it again. Why did I decide to use a non-erasable pen this time?

Not sure I have much enthusiasm or patience to do this right now. My son's little brother is being a little shit. I'll have the list posted sometime in the next week or so. Deadline is still extended to midnight tonight.

Re: Best Ever Western Films [POLL]

badseed — Mon, 28 May 2018 15:44:49 GMT

Author: badseed

Posted: 05/28/2018 19:44

badseed wrote:

Sorry guys, we've got a storm on the way. Wound up preparing for it all last night. Haven't even got started yet on the list. I'm not gonna be able to post it til I get off work tonight (if I work, as the weather may not permit it). Im gonna try to crunch some numbers over the next couple hours before i go but if anyone still wants to post or update a list I'm gonna extend the deadline to midnight, eastern standard time tonight. I should have enough time to get everything done and post the list within an hour from the deadline.

Yep. No work tonight. List will be posted in approximately 9 hours.

Re: Best Ever Western Films [POLL]

badseed — Mon, 28 May 2018 13:08:46 GMT

Author: badseed

Posted: 05/28/2018 17:08

Sorry guys, we've got a storm on the way. Wound up preparing for it all last night. Haven't even got started yet on the list. I'm not gonna be able to post it til I get off work tonight (if I work, as the weather may not permit it). Im gonna try to crunch some numbers over the next couple hours before i go but if anyone still wants to post or update a list I'm gonna extend the deadline to midnight, eastern standard time tonight. I should have enough time to get everything done and post the list within an hour from the deadline.

Re: Best Ever Western Films [POLL]

PurpleHazel — Mon, 28 May 2018 03:21:47 GMT

Author: PurpleHazel

Posted: 05/28/2018 07:21

Hadn't thought of that. Been a while since I saw Johnny Guitar. Funny, Marlene Dietrich and Joan Crawford are both these larger-than-life icons who were in their later years when they starred in the movies (Dietrich was 50 and Crawford was probably 49).

Last Train from Gun Hill's quite similar to 3:10 to Yuma -- right down to their titles, both referring to a train's schedule. But LTFGH's suspenseful in its own right.

Re: Best Ever Western Films [POLL]

bobbyb5 — Mon, 28 May 2018 03:15:42 GMT

Author: bobbyb5

Posted: 05/28/2018 07:15

PurpleHazel wrote:

I crammed 7 westerns in the last 9 days. Some interesting parallels:

Both Last Train From Gun Hill and Rancho Notorious open with the main character's wife/fiancee's rape-murder; in the former a young boy witnesses part of it, in the latter a young boy hears it. In Last Train From Gun Hill (1959), the scene's surprisingly explicit for its time and the word "rape" is used. In Rancho Notorious (1952), the fiancee's screams are heard twice before a gunshot, but I wasn't 100% sure a rape took place till a doctor says, "She wasn't spared anything." Later the main character says she was "outraged," euphemism for "raped."

In both Rancho Notorious and For a Few Dollars More, the main character either breaks out of jail with an outlaw or breaks an outlaw out of jail in order to be accepted by and infiltrate a criminal group. Watched consecutively.

The Great Silence (watched yesterday) and Day of the Outlaw (watched today) are both completely set in snowy environments (Utah, Montana) that play a major role in the plots.

The whole premise of Rancho notorious is the same as Johnny Guitar. Basically, a woman runs a hideout for wild and crazy outlaws.

Re: Best Ever Western Films [POLL]

PurpleHazel — Mon, 28 May 2018 03:08:24 GMT

Author: PurpleHazel

Posted: 05/28/2018 07:08

I crammed 7 westerns in the last 9 days. Some interesting parallels:

Both Last Train From Gun Hill and Rancho Notorious open with the main character's wife/fiancee's rape-murder; in the former a young boy witnesses part of it, in the latter a young boy hears it. In Last Train From Gun Hill (1959), the scene's surprisingly explicit for its time and the word "rape" is used. In Rancho Notorious (1952), the fiancee's screams are heard twice before a gunshot, but I wasn't 100% sure a rape took place till a doctor says, "She wasn't spared anything." Later the main character says she was "outraged" as a euphemism for "raped." I can just imagine representative from the Hayes office suggesting the word in place of something slightly stronger.

In both Rancho Notorious and For a Few Dollars More, the main character either breaks out of jail with an outlaw or breaks an outlaw out of jail in order to be accepted by and infiltrate a criminal group. Watched consecutively.

The Great Silence (watched yesterday) and Day of the Outlaw (watched today) are both completely set in very snowy environments (Utah, Montana) that play a major role in the plots.

Re: Best Ever Western Films [POLL]

PurpleHazel — Mon, 28 May 2018 01:39:48 GMT

Author: PurpleHazel

Posted: 05/28/2018 05:39

Final list:

1. Man of the West
2. McCabe & Mrs. Miller
3. The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance
4. 3:10 to Yuma (1957)
5. The Tall T
6. The Searchers
7. Rio Bravo
8. The Naked Spur
9. Stagecoach (1939)
10. The Good, the Bad and the Ugly
11. Red River
12. The Wild Bunch
13. Johnny Guitar
14. El Topo
15. The Gunfighter
16. Rancho Notorious
17. Ride the High Country
18. For a Few Dollars More
19. The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford
20. High Noon
21. The Shooting
22. Seven Men From Now
23. Unforgiven
24. The Ox-Bow Incident
25. Hud
26. Last Train From Gun Hill
27. Once Upon a Time in the West
28. Day of the Outlaw
29. Shane
30. My Darling Clementine
31. Django
32. Pursued
33. Winchester ’73
34. Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid
35. True Grit (2010)
36. Blazing Saddles
37. El Dorado
38. Wagon Master
39. Lonely are the Brave
40. The Great Silence
41. Yellow Sky
42. Bend of the River
43. Django Unchained
44. The Man From Laramie
45. One-Eyed Jacks
46. Buchanan Rides Alone
47. Hombre
48. The Misfits
49. Heaven’s Gate
50. The Magnificent Seven (1960)

Re: Best Ever Western Films [POLL]

bobbyb5 — Mon, 28 May 2018 01:33:18 GMT

Author: bobbyb5

Posted: 05/28/2018 05:33

PurpleHazel wrote:

Sierra Madre's definitely borderline. I assumed Giant was later because of the oil rigs, but me no know history well.

I put an oil rig movie on my list too. But to be honest I never really thought about when it took place. The actors are wearing really old looking clothes, so I guess I just assumed it took place quite a long time ago. But if it's about oil rigs it couldn't be all that long ago. Heh heh. I'm going to have to research that.

Re: Best Ever Western Films [POLL]

PurpleHazel — Mon, 28 May 2018 01:27:06 GMT

Author: PurpleHazel

Posted: 05/28/2018 05:27

StreetSpirit wrote:

Giant and Treasure of Sierra Madre take place in the 1920s, so they're certainly borderline Westerns. Giant spans 20-30 years and actually leads into the 1950s if I'm not mistaken. So yeah, I considered removing Giant but I didn't feel like re-typing the numbers.

Sierra Madre's definitely borderline. I assumed Giant was later because of the oil rigs, but me no know history well.

Re: Best Ever Western Films [POLL]

CA Dreamin — Sun, 27 May 2018 22:56:18 GMT

Author: CA Dreamin

Posted: 05/28/2018 02:56

PurpleHazel wrote:

Really good list! Technically Giant and Treasure of Sierra Madre are neo-westerns, but classic ones, not contemporary ones, which are definitely more palatable to me (the only kind I include on my list as well). Kudos for including The Wind -- seeing someone else including it is tempting me to add it to my list too.

Re: Best Ever Western Films [POLL]

PurpleHazel — Sun, 27 May 2018 22:17:50 GMT

Author: PurpleHazel

Posted: 05/28/2018 02:17

Really good list! Technically Giant and Treasure of Sierra Madre are neo-westerns, but classic ones, not contemporary ones, which are definitely more palatable to me (the only kind I include on my list as well). Kudos for including The Wind -- seeing someone else including it is tempting me to add it to my list too.

Re: Best Ever Western Films [POLL]

CA Dreamin — Sun, 27 May 2018 21:58:21 GMT

Author: CA Dreamin

Posted: 05/28/2018 01:58

Got through Warlock and Rio Bravo today. No Neo-Westerns or Sci Fi-Westerns. They simply don't look right on this list. So many Westerns I still need to see. Anyway, here's my crappy list:

1. High Noon (1952)
2. The Ox-Bow Incident (1943)
3. The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly (1966)
4. Stagecoach (1939)
5. Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid (1969)
6. The Wild Bunch (1969)
7. Dances with Wolves (1990)
8. Unforgiven (1992)
9. McCabe and Mrs. Miller (1971)
10. The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance (1962)
11. Once Upon a Time in the West (1968)
12. For a Few Dollars More (1965)
13. Rio Bravo (1959)
14. 3:10 to Yuma (1957)
15. The Treasure of Sierra Madre (1948)
16. There Will Be Blood (2007)
17. The Searchers (1956)
18. The Tin Star (1957)
19. A Fistful of Dollars (1964)
20. Ulzana's Raid (1972)
21. Yellow Sky (1948)
22. The Outlaw Josey Wales (1976)
23. Red River (1948)
24. The Magnificent Seven (1960)
25. Drums Along the Mohawk (1939)
26. Little Big Man (1970)
27. The Wind (1928)
28. True Grit (2010)
29. True Grit (1969)
30. The Tall T (1957)
31. Shane (1953)
32. Warlock (1959)
33. The Hateful Eight (2015)
34. Bend of the River (1952)
35. Forty Guns (1957)
36. The Iron Horse (1924)
37. The Far Country (1954)
38. Django Unchained (2012)
39. Will Penny (1968)
40. My Darling Clementine (1946)
41. The Revenant (2015)
42. The River of No Return (1954)
43. Go West (1925)
44. Dodge City (1936)
45. The Brass Legend (1956)
46. El Dorado (1966)
47. Hombre (1967)
48. Ravenous (1999)
49. Two Mules for Sister Sara (1970)
50. The Proposition (2005)
51. The Sun Shines Bright (1953)
52. Destry Rides Again (1939)
53. Seven Men From Now (1956)
54. Hondo (1953)
55. Bad Company (1972)
56. Wild and Woolly (1917)
57. Buchanan Rides Alone (1958)

EDIT Decided to delete Giant. Added Buchanan Rides Alone. Made a couple minor adjustments.

Re: Best Ever Western Films [POLL]

badseed — Sun, 27 May 2018 17:15:15 GMT

Author: badseed

Posted: 05/27/2018 21:15

I'm working like 12 hours too. On break now. I haven't even started adding up points yet but I have a feeling this one is gonna be a piece of cake in comparison to the actors poll so I should be able to post the list sometime before I go to bed tomorrow morning if I get started after work. Make sure you let me know of any updates before the cutoff.

Re: Best Ever Western Films [POLL]

CA Dreamin — Fri, 25 May 2018 23:15:43 GMT

Author: CA Dreamin

Posted: 05/26/2018 03:15

StreetSpirit wrote:

Doesn't look like I'm gonna get to everything on my watchlist by deadline. I still have Rio Bravo, Barbary Coast, Warlock, Secrets (1933), Tombstone, and Sea of Grass on my watchlist.

Gowi wrote:

Get to those movies! Prioritize! I believe in you!

badseed wrote:

I haven't even seen many of those. But yeah, Rio Bravo is fantastic. At least try to watch it.

PurpleHazel wrote:

Rio Bravo's the one to see if you only have the chance to watch one.

AwaitingAndrew wrote:

I'd recommend Warlock the most personally, really good film that may not even crack the final list otherwise.

I'm working a 12-hr day tomorrow, which basically leaves me with only Sunday. I'll make Rio Bravo and Warlock top priorities.

Re: Best Ever Western Films [POLL]

hereforashortime — Fri, 25 May 2018 20:01:25 GMT

Author: hereforashortime

Posted: 05/26/2018 00:01

StreetSpirit wrote:

my list will be much better when I post it than if I had posted it when this poll began (it's still not gonna be very good, haha).

Same with my list. I was really grateful for this project, as without it I probably never would've watched The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance, Tombstone, The Ox-Bow Incident, or Stagecoach, all of which are great movies in my opinion.

Re: Best Ever Western Films [POLL]

AwaitingAndrew — Fri, 25 May 2018 19:08:05 GMT

Author: AwaitingAndrew

Posted: 05/25/2018 23:08

StreetSpirit wrote:

Doesn't look like I'm gonna get to everything on my watchlist by deadline. I still have Rio Bravo, Barbary Coast, Warlock, Secrets (1933), Tombstone, and Sea of Grass on my watchlist. Nevertheless, thanks everyone for the suggestions. Thanks badseed for hosting this. And thanks to that dailymotion channel. My knowledge of the genre has broadened, and my list will be much better when I post it than if I had posted it when this poll began (it's still not gonna be very good, haha).

I'd recommend Warlock the most personally, really good film that may not even crack the final list otherwise.